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otomo

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Jul 13, 2013
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What alternatives are there to iTunes for encoding audio to ALAC?

I recently used iTunes to convert some AIFF files to ALAC and discovered that iTunes didn't pass on the following tags: Arranger, Catalog Number, Media, Part, Publisher, Release Country, and Remixer. So I would like to try some alternative ALAC encoders that preserve all the tags from the source file.
 

ChrisA

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What alternatives are there to iTunes for encoding audio to ALAC?

I recently used iTunes to convert some AIFF files to ALAC and discovered that iTunes didn't pass on the following tags: Arranger, Catalog Number, Media, Part, Publisher, Release Country, and Remixer. So I would like to try some alternative ALAC encoders that preserve all the tags from the source file.

Are those tags actually inside the file? Maybe they are in the iTunes database?

I strongly suspect that EVERY encoder simply uses Apple Core Audio API to do the encoding. I can't imagine someone re-mplementing it themselves.
 

ScottishCaptain

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The only alternative I know of is XLD. But I have no idea if it will preserve that data- there aren't fields for it in the Metadata editor, so it sounds like what you want is actually stored in the iTunes media database rather then the file itself.

-SC
 

otomo

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Jul 13, 2013
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Are those tags actually inside the file? Maybe they are in the iTunes database?

I strongly suspect that EVERY encoder simply uses Apple Core Audio API to do the encoding. I can't imagine someone re-mplementing it themselves.

I put the tags into the AIFF using Kid3 tag editor.

I have no issue with the encoding, it is the dropping of tags that I have issue with. I could use a tag editor like Kid3 to put the missing tags back, but that seems more laborious than just using an encoder that passes on all the tags in the first place
 

otomo

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Jul 13, 2013
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The only alternative I know of is XLD. But I have no idea if it will preserve that data- there aren't fields for it in the Metadata editor, so it sounds like what you want is actually stored in the iTunes media database rather then the file itself.

-SC

Just tried XLD -- it actually stripped *all* the tags, not just the ones iTunes stripped. Here's a before and after XLD (AIFF and ALAC) of tags as Kid3 tag editor sees them:

Screen+Shot+2013-09-14+at+10.45.32+AM.jpg



And here's what iTunes leaves (missing Arranger, Catalog Number, Media, Part, Publisher, Release Country, and Remixer):

Screen+Shot+2013-09-14+at+10.51.58+AM.jpg


So I'm still open to suggestions for alternative ALAC encoding apps.
 

MacUser2525

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Just tried XLD -- it actually stripped *all* the tags, not just the ones iTunes stripped.

I would make sure you have checked the "Add tags to output files if possible" checked in the Metadata option in its preferences, I have used it for literally tens of thousands of files and it has never failed to add the tags.
 

otomo

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Jul 13, 2013
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I would make sure you have checked the "Add tags to output files if possible" checked in the Metadata option in its preferences, I have used it for literally tens of thousands of files and it has never failed to add the tags.

"Add tags to output files if possible" is checked. Maybe XLD doesn't like AIFF.
 
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