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Apple 4Q 2007 Results, Conference Call: $6.22 billion revenue, $904 million profit
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ehhmm. So what?
Apples vs Oranges.
Magnitude of market capitalization is tantamount to meaningless.iPhone II
Macworld Expo 2008.................. it could happen.....
Not to mention, they will come out with iPhone II before then
Macworld Expo 2008.................. it could happen.....
I guess you missed the part where I said "Sorry I forgot who I was talking about". Of course Apple will stick to their high margins instead of gunning for some marketshare. I was just dreaming aloud.
I might add:
Any smart business owner, whether large, mid-sized, or even small, with cash on hand available for reinvestment (other than a hard asset such as real estate or office purchases) would probably do the same thing on a much smaller scale.
Timed investments such as Certificate of Deposits (at the small business level) are great ways to keep grubby hands from out of the pot and kept away for safe-keeping and interest earning.
say you've made around $20K by the time you've squared off all your debts
you hit up your bank and buy 10 CDs at 1K each, with varying maturities...
2 that are 6-9 month, 2 that are 1-2 year, 2 that are 2-3, and 4 that are 3-5.
you've got a nicely staggered cash investment. 10K locked away, 10K on hand.
Your investments might just help you out when you're in dire straits or a pleasant surprise when things are going well and just in time for other investment opportunities.
most small business owners completely skip this notion (or simply don't know of it), instead wanting to pocket the cash and hit up vegas or get that rolex (or do both?).
time value of money might do the trick though.
watch your cents...
Any smart business owner, whether large, mid-sized, or even small, with cash on hand available for reinvestment (other than a hard asset such as real estate or office purchases) would probably do the same thing on a much smaller scale.
Timed investments such as Certificate of Deposits (at the small business level) are great ways to keep grubby hands from out of the pot and kept away for safe-keeping and interest earning.
say you've made around $20K by the time you've squared off all your debts
you hit up your bank and buy 10 CDs at 1K each, with varying maturities...
2 that are 6-9 month, 2 that are 1-2 year, 2 that are 2-3, and 4 that are 3-5.
you've got a nicely staggered cash investment. 10K locked away, 10K on hand.
Your investments might just help you out when you're in dire straits or a pleasant surprise when things are going well and just in time for other investment opportunities.
most small business owners completely skip this notion (or simply don't know of it), instead wanting to pocket the cash and hit up vegas or get that rolex (or do both?).
time value of money might do the trick though.
watch your cents...
That news {report} is just brilliant......I can still remember when we got Motorola Imac updates with an extra 100mhz ...
...Leopard is still available at lower price in college-bookstores and such. Only place where they increased the edu-pricing is the Apple online-store.
In short: quit your whining.
I work at the City University of New York, which has 100,000+ students easily, spread over some 17 or so campuses. Even though we have a "custom" Apple store, it's still $116. Even though I'm the one who gets all the purchase order quotes for my dept. from our state Apple rep, it's still $116.
The new Edu pricing is not consistent, and is just pure greed.
Well, FWIW, they are not required to offer any kind of discount at all. You CAN still afford Leopard. If you don't.... well, what's wrong with Tiger?
Apple already bigger than Google and together they top Microcrap.
Apple
$ 151,630,604,760
$ 151,560,325,750
Microsoft
$ 286,847,453,520
http://quotes.nasdaq.com/quote...
For some reason the NASDAQ site always shows the Google market cap wrong. GOOG is actually worth US$203.1bn.Apple already bigger than Google and together they top Microcrap.
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I'm sorry but people are allowed to be irritated by Apple's sales practices. People are angry that Apple supported education for so long but has been bumping up prices recently. When they hear of Apples profits going through the roof, they rightly think this is unfair.
Don't be so blindly defensive of Apple's actions. Students want to enjoy Leopard too, and unfortunately, means not having quite so big a budget to spend on Apples products. Some students may have been saving a portion for Leopard and now cannot afford it at the new virtually full price.
There are plenty of non-students too who want to enjoy Leopard but can't afford it. Luckily Tiger isn't suddenly going to stop working on Saturday morning, so these people have a choice of whether they purchase or not.
Nobody is entitled to Leopard, not even students. You either buy it or you don't.
I should mention that I'm actually not a student by the way! lol.
I would never suggest people 'deserve' this that or the other and I wholly agree that no-one is entitled to have Leopard, but at the same time, it's not a blessing from the gods we're talking about (Although you'd think that way with some on this site! Its a new OS release, that has been offered to students (as Apple has been so keen on education for so many years) at a discounted rate because they know that if they get them there, they can keep them as loyal users, and maybe because Education is important. I think it was a great strategy and Apple could easily afford to continue the lower price with minimal impact to profit margins both long and short term.
I would never suggest people 'deserve' this that or the other and I wholly agree that no-one is entitled to have Leopard, but at the same time, it's not a blessing from the gods we're talking about (Although you'd think that way with some on this site
! Its a new OS release, that has been offered to students (as Apple has been so keen on education for so many years) at a discounted rate because they know that if they get them there, they can keep them as loyal users, and maybe because Education is important. I think it was a great strategy and Apple could easily afford to continue the lower price with minimal impact to profit margins both long and short term.
"People are angry that Apple supported education for so long but has been bumping up prices recently. When they hear of Apples profits going through the roof, they rightly think this is unfair."
Apple CUSTOMERS subsidized Apple education sales. And they are wrong to think it is unfair, they are right to have a preference that Apple return to the old way. Remember, the most common student response has been "One penny over $69 and I'll steal it". Not exactly a segment that can claim the moral high ground! But 90% are fresh off someone else's gravy train (10%... wasn't referring to you, don't post your tale of self-sufficient woe) and believe they deserve everything at whatever price they believe fair based on the chapter and a half of economics they read before the dropped the class last term.
"Well, FWIW, they are not required to offer any kind of discount at all."
See prior posts and threads. By virtue of sitting on the sidelines of the economy, students believe they deserve a subsidy. Apple offered it in the past so they should be required to in the future. Kind of reminds us why we aren't supposed to feed the bears in national parks. They'll come to expect it and get quite rowdy if we stop!
Apple CUSTOMERS subsidized Apple education sales. And they are wrong to think it is unfair, they are right to have a preference that Apple return to the old way. Remember, the most common student response has been "One penny over $69 and I'll steal it". Not exactly a segment that can claim the moral high ground! But 90% are fresh off someone else's gravy train (10%... wasn't referring to you, don't post your tale of self-sufficient woe) and believe they deserve everything at whatever price they believe fair based on the chapter and a half of economics they read before the dropped the class last term.
"Well, FWIW, they are not required to offer any kind of discount at all."
See prior posts and threads. By virtue of sitting on the sidelines of the economy, students believe they deserve a subsidy. Apple offered it in the past so they should be required to in the future. Kind of reminds us why we aren't supposed to feed the bears in national parks. They'll come to expect it and get quite rowdy if we stop!
Not to mention, they will come out with iPhone II before then
A little nostalgic part of me kinda wants to see an iPhone ][.
No doubt they're having at fine time of it at head office, very nice figures indeed.
With regard to student discounts, it doesn't really surprise me. We all know how greedy Apple have become, look at the iPhone exclusivity and revenue deals for example.
Quality control has gone down the pan, no doubt saving a few $$$$.
But hey, they're making a fortune and selling more than ever. Why should they care? Right?
With regard to student discounts, it doesn't really surprise me. We all know how greedy Apple have become, look at the iPhone exclusivity and revenue deals for example.
Quality control has gone down the pan, no doubt saving a few $$$$.
But hey, they're making a fortune and selling more than ever. Why should they care? Right?
For those who are curious, the value on the NASDAQ site is the aggregate value of Google Class A common stock -- which is the stock represented by the GOOG ticker symbol. The missing value is in Google Class B common stock.
An inconvenient truth for Microsoft
Anybody else notice a striking resemblance between Apple's stock performance and Al Gore's global warming chart?
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Anybody else notice a striking resemblance between Apple's stock performance and Al Gore's global warming chart?
You have an incredibly opinionated view of students of which a large proportion on this forum would be offended by suggesting that they would "immediately steal it if its a penny more" and make judgements based on their poor knowledge on economics because they can only be bothered to read a chapter and a half and then "drop-out" of classes.
I'd also like to suggest that Apple customers in no way directly (Or indirectly) are paying for the subsidies, that sounds like British tabloid economics to me. Shareholders would end losing out the most I would have thought.
I'm not trying to claim any ground let alone the 'moral' one I assure you! Just defending students as I was one.
I should mention that I'm actually not a student by the way! lol.
I would never suggest people 'deserve' this that or the other and I wholly agree that no-one is entitled to have Leopard, but at the same time, it's not a blessing from the gods we're talking about (Although you'd think that way with some on this site
What keen are you referring to?
1 a: having a fine edge or point : sharp b: affecting one as if by cutting <keen sarcasm> c: pungent to the sense <a keen scent>
2 a (1): showing a quick and ardent responsiveness : enthusiastic <a keen swimmer> (2): eager <was keen to begin> bof emotion or feeling : intense <the keen delight in the chase F. W. Maitland>
3 a: intellectually alert : having or characteristic of a quick penetrating mind <a keen student> <a keen awareness of the problem>; also : shrewdly astute b: sharply contested <keen debate> c: extremely sensitive in perception <keen eyes>
4: wonderful, excellent