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Apple and Samsung Moving into 'Hate-Hate' Relationship
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Steve Jobs wasn't Apple. The original statement was that companies do not hate each other.
Move the SSD business to OCZ!
Move the display business to AOC!
yes, Tim move the ship in right direction!
Move the display business to AOC!
yes, Tim move the ship in right direction!
I am sorry but samsung has been doing a lot of innovative stuff with phones. Have you seen the galaxy note, the note 10.1, the galaxy s3, galaxy nexus. They all had much more innovative features than the iphone 5 which is really nothing gamechanging at all. The galaxy nexus has a curved display, the galaxy note introduced a pretty decent sized market for 5+ inch phones and integrated a digitizer, the galaxy s3 had loads of new software features in the new touchwiz, and the galaxy note 10.1 brought the note to full sized tablets and brought side by side multitasking. The only thing iOS has done in the past year is add facebook integration and a new maps program that has had lukewarm reception at best and most reviews are pretty poor.
All good points, but as far as Apple not wanting to be reliant on anyone, to what end?
If Apple makes their own chips, are they going to make their own hard drives? RAM? Capacitors?
Are they going to have their own Silicon, Silver, Aluminum, and Carbon mining/production facilities? Make their own boxes? Cardboard? Will they acquisition acres of forestry to feed their paper mills?
No man is an island, and the same is true of any groups of men. We all rely on each other for something.
Short term:
Not good.
N O T G O O D.
Will significantly impact production capacity for Apple, and free up capacity for Samsung, among other things.
Not good.
N O T G O O D.
Will significantly impact production capacity for Apple, and free up capacity for Samsung, among other things.
Good.
That will show Samsung its not ok to copy/take the piss of etc your competitors and their users.
That will show Samsung its not ok to copy/take the piss of etc your competitors and their users.
You're kidding? Apple buys multiple BILLION$$ in parts from Samsung. Apple accounts for like 20% of Samsung semiconductor/parts sales. Only Sony buys more parts. More importantly, Apple has long term contracts they have PREPAID for setup and upgrades needed.
If Samsung tried to cut Apple off they would have contract suits for BILLIONS in breech liability... And no OTHER company would take them seriously to invest money in them.
Everybody misses that Apple was VERY GOOD to Samsung. Apple spent most of the recession writing Samsung checks for $100's of millions of dollars UP FRONT to retrofit lines for Apple's needs stupid Samsung CEO allowed his phone division to target APPLE SPECIFICALLY... not just features, but press, marketing, etc... Samsung made it "personal" first... Now they're watching Apple pull apart their production business as the contracts expire. Oops!
Like iPhone or not, early on, 3/4 of the Bill of Materials cost for iPods and iPhones was going right back to SAMSUNG'S pocket... You just don't say bad things about the product when you got that kind of money in the deal.
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Actually, Apple seems to benefit pretty well. Taking over all the design for the A6, they've ended up with a dual chip that bests Samsung's higher clocked quad. Seems good to me.
TSMC is probably going to benefit, too, eventually.
My guess is that they have a contract but I do find it interesting that Apple is burning its bridges with its suppliers. The arrogance is going to eat away at Apple until/unless they get it under control.
You are right - Apple needs to be careful to not cut off its nose in order to spite its face. The Romans, at one time, were very powerful. But, it all came crumbling down.
That needs to be said: Samsung actually created advertisements that specifically target Apple and try to make fun of Apple's customers. Not something that keeps a business relationship healthy.
Not with "its suppliers". With _one_ supplier whose mobile business tries whatever they can to damage Apple. And switching to different suppliers who play nicely instead. I can't quite understand why you call that "arrogance". If you had a supplier who has been ripping you off, that has just been convicted to pay you a billion dollars for patent infringement, then you would do your best to find other suppliers. That is just common sense. And others are watching; losing a major customer because you tried to rip them off is a warning sign for others as well.
I wish Samsung an awful lot of free capacity
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I think s/he meant 'not wanting to be reliant for anything strategic ...' Their own chip design is probably strategic to apple, but probably not chip fabrication nor making hard drives, memory, etc.
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Partly agree. I would not quite say innovative, but make powerful competitive high quality products.
Samsung and LG are 2 rising stars in durable goods.
I have a strong feeling that Apple will vanish one day..
They are seeking for too much attentions from media. Now becoming their own problem.
I hope i dont lose satisfying customer service that Apple offer in US regions. Unless Samsung brings the exact customer service like they did in east-asia.
They are seeking for too much attentions from media. Now becoming their own problem.
I hope i dont lose satisfying customer service that Apple offer in US regions. Unless Samsung brings the exact customer service like they did in east-asia.
Apple is no different. Whether it was keynotes or statements to the press, etc - they bashed their competition - and Samsung, being one of them was not only their competition - but a supplier.
Both parties engaged in the behavior. It's was businesses do. And it's not personal. It's business.
