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gnasher729

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Am I the first to think of the criminal side of things to this...I.e. Criminal mastermind is arrested, his/her cronies can remotely force a wipe/kill the device therefore completely destroying any evidence a law enforcement agency could glean from the device? Given that all iPhones supposedly encrypt everything? Probably wrong but it seems that side of things have been possibly completely overlooked?

The iPhone protects criminal masterminds from the police in exactly the same way it protect you from criminal masterminds. And there is no need for cronies to do a remote wipe. Use a strong passcode (not four digits, but ten digits or 8 random letters), set the iPhone to lock automatically after a very short time, and nobody can crack it.

For a search warrant, the police would actually need concrete evidence that evidence is stored on the phone. Saying "he's a criminal mastermind, there is surely same evidence on the phone" won't do, and the criminal mastermind's lawyer will (rightfully) tear anyone apart in court who tries something like that.

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Personally I don't care if a "mastermind" has his phone wiped. My data belongs to me. Besides a real wipe takes hours and hours, the iphone probably just marks the data for deletion and never overwrites it so its all still there.

Wrong. All data on any iPhone is encrypted. The encryption key is stored on the device (it is itself encrypted, obviously, and can only be encrypted by you entering the passcode). For safety in case it is accidentally destroyed, it's stored in two places. Erasing these two places is all it takes, and after that the data on the phone is not readable by anyone.
 

kas23

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Oct 28, 2007
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I must be missing something. So, if a thief steals my phone, Apple will recognize someone else is now using it and will send an alert to my phone (which the thief now has in his possession) asking him if he wants wipe it or prompt a password entry?
 

powerstrokin

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It seems to keep appearing and disappearing over the last few days, trouble is every time it appears at least one person seems to enjoy themselves just down-voting every post.

Not dissimilar to the "one star bandit" from another forum I frequent.
 

wikiverse

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Not really a double standard, as the two companies have very different business models. Google makes its money off your personal profile. Apple makes its money off, well, your money.

Why is this so hard to understand? I trust Apple more with my personal details simply because they have no core business reason to abuse them. Google (and Facebook, etc.) do, and so I am more wary of what I give them. Perfectly rational.

Apple have iAds and iTunes. It would be a very naive person to think that Apple does not or will not ever track users to place targeted ads.
 
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