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Apple Files Legal Challenge Against EU Law as Sideloading Requirement Looms
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Well unfortunately that Apple died with Steve Jobs. Welcome to Tim Crook's Apple where they listen to spreadsheets more than their actual customers.
Remember: Courage.
Tell that to Android phone users robbed of billions of dollars by fake apps.
Oh honey you do not want to go there. That is a fight you will lose
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Once this is in place for smartphones and other general purpose computing devices, then perhaps they will move on to gaming and other entertainment-focused devices. I'm sure you can appreciate why the former are far more important to regulate than the latter, though.
Just note.
1) The Mac OS is not as popular a platform as iOS is. And historically doesn't get the attention like Windows does for attacks/hacks/malware/Trojans/Virus/ransomware/etc. Not that it "can't" or that it doesn't. But they are FAR lower than on Windows.
2) iOS being mostly locked down from the start AND pretty popular. Still doesn't suffer from the same level of attacks as Android or Windows. Because it is behind a firewall (the AppStore). AND, you can't install software as easily as you can on Mac OS or any other platform. Not that you "can't" force something on there. Or that there are no Zero Day exploits that can bypass protections. Just that it isn't as much of an issue for most any user to avoid without having to think about it.
Your safety is partially due to there just being fewer "things" attacking the Mac platform. AND you still have to confirm and allow and allow and allow on the Mac to get something that isn't 100% from a known legit publisher/developer installed.
It really doesn't take much work to get too many people to do things on their devices that will allow malware in. Email links, text message links will start to flood in. People that get hit with spam calls and text, this will allow more entry into a device that simply didn't have to worry about it before. And the big reason for that is how many people have iPhones. It will be a bigger target worth attempting to hack into.
So to be "safe", yes stick with the AppStore and never click on anything you don't know 100%. But, the attempts to trick iOS users will increase and many will unfortunately find out the hard way what this new ability will cost them.
I'm willing to be that a lot of people who live in dictatorial countries (i.e. China) don't just want this but need this if they want to be able to get around China's great firewall.
Even Apple expressed their concerns about this.
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Of course, if Apple had to choose between Apple App store control and profits vs allowing people to download/install apps outside of their App Store, Apple will choose the former.
Just because you don't need this doesn't mean others don't. In other words, don't speak for others.
Game consoles are a highly competitive market and are generally sold at cost where they make up their revenue in software sales, and there are other alternative markets aside from game consoles like PC and mobile. This isn't like with smartphones where there are literally only two mobile operating systems, iOS and Android, and iOS software distribution is controlled solely by Apple and Apple alone.
🥹 How cute. We're concerned for Apple Inc.'s well-being too! But the ability to download and install developer-signed apps directly from the internet hasn't yet killed macOS and won't harm iOS either. Actually, I might want to switch to Android in the future, if the golden cage remains locked shut. So it's only in Apple's best interest to play nice with the EU.
Allowing side loading is developers and consumers way to leverage their opinion of the AppStore. Android isn’t a choice, iOS isn’t a choice either, but you do choose what phone you’re using. And only other iPhones are available choices. But if you have an galaxy phone you can get a pixel, note, vivo, , pixel etc and use the exact same play store/ apps, or use the Amazon play store, galaxy store etc etc
These are things that don't matter. There are no fake bank apps where you can lose all your savings. You don't know this problem, so don't comment.Oh honey you do not want to go there. That is a fight you will lose
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In many countries, there is a huge problem of people being cheated by fake bank employees who encourage people to install applications from outside the official Google store. Android makes this possible. This will be the case with iOS soon.
Sadly that old Apple has got all but a few toes out the door.
I have an Android phone. Many service and application producers remove their applications from the official store and want you to install their store. It's the same on PC. You must have applications from several different distributors installed to purchase and play the game. On iOS it was perfectly simplified. There was no way to lose money because Apple was responsible for payments.
So those that disagree. You would rather stay on a platform that you don't like? And or doesn't offer you what you want?
By the way, if you had this on your calendar like I did you'll recall that this is literally the last day they could have filed this appeal. And considering the time in Europe, they seem to have waited until the literally the last minute. They are going to drag this out every second they legally can.
They already do that. They have a mix of physical stores in different establishments. Developers.
And comeback when they have many more customers. About 40million in EU alone to even be considered a gatekeeper. Plus they must have a dominant market position
I think what he's trying to say is...
Always a compelling argument. (please tell me /s is implied.)
There are/have been fake financial apps on Apple's App Store.
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Sorry to be that guy today but:
Look Apple's behavior lately just reminds me of cartoon characters, what can I say?
Well to be fair pc isn’t part of the same market. And the fact they are sold at cost isn’t relevant as they must have a dominant position
A dominant position is ‘a position of economic strength enjoyed by an undertaking which enables it to prevent effective competition being maintained on the relevant market by giving it the power to behave to an appreciable extent independently of its competitors, customers and ultimately of its consumers
Sideloading is long overdue however some parts of DMA are a mess and could create new threat vectors for regular users; trying to make everything compatible with everything and opening up certain private APIs ane Apple Pay for example is not exactly a great idea.
In terms of the sideloading, as long as users agree to the risks involved and are OK with them, let them do it. However if they run into issues with sideloaded apps, Apple should not get the blame.
In terms of the sideloading, as long as users agree to the risks involved and are OK with them, let them do it. However if they run into issues with sideloaded apps, Apple should not get the blame.
I have an Android phone and have encountered exactly zero instances of software developers insisting that I install their store or side-load their app. Which ones are you encountering specifically?
The only instance I've run into where I have chosen to side-load an Android app was for a specialized warehouse management system that ties into a client's ERP. The only reason for doing so was to ensure that the version installed on the Android hand-held scanners remains compatible with their server software (it is a big job to upgrade such software, so it is only done once every few years). This is an isolated system with a single special purpose, and side-loading was optional (the scanner app is installable from the Google app store, but it would require a Google account and would run the risk of being auto-updated, neither of which is ideal on such a device).
And another point for the discussion — which parts of the system you need to open up vs. what can you claim as your USP and part of the OS.
jailbreak = exploit that provides root access to the device
"sideloading" != root access
Android does not provide root access to the device, and has SafetyNet to ensure that developer devices which do can't use root to lie about things that have to be trustworthy.
I get your point but I think your logic is flawed, and would have been the exact reverse 20 years ago when all the information was on the "PC." It doesn't matter which is the primary device, or what data is where. The same protections should apply.
Apple has been moving toward this by locking down the Mac to the extent that while there is still root access, it doesn't do any good as the system won't function if even one bit is modified. The permissions system is so extensive people complain that it's annoying. The iPhone is even more locked down and none of that has to change one bit based on where the software comes from.
Apple can still require a valid developer certificate for the application to execute. Apple is still in full control here. This is just about who gets paid and how much.
Edit: if anyone actually reads this, I'll admit that I did gloss over the issues of editorial control and scanning for security vulnerabilities. One could argue that Epic demonstrated that the security scanning isn't very effective as content can simply be loaded after the fact. And Apple still has on-device security checking capabilities.
And as for editorial control, one could argue that Apple has demonstrably used that as a discriminatory weapon against developers they didn't like for business or personal reasons, and that again there they have not even been effective in enforcing their own policies.
So, as to whether it is legal for Apple to use something like developer certificates to enforce those policies anyway...
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In the case of game consoles, that fact is very much relevant. It has probably been brought to the EU's attention that if they did ever bring about a similar type of regulation to the game console market, such a regulation would have the potential of making game consoles uncompetitive for their manufacturers. The result would either be that they become far more expensive than they are now, or some of those manufacturers would go out of business (or, most likely, both). Neither of those things would be good for consumers, and so such a regulation would be self-defeating.
And one could make the argument that these are supposed to be general purpose computers, as opposed to game consoles which everyone can agree is a locked down device for a specific purpose.
It's very important that we not conflate the two. I don't want to lose general purpose computers and only be issued locked down toys which can only perform approved actions. Which is dangerously close to where we are headed. Not just with Apple but also the industry in general.