You really can't see a parallel between iMessage, FaceTime and iChat???
It's not like we want Safari, GarageBand and Mail combined.
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Apple is Building iMessage into OS X Lion's iChat
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It's not like we want Safari, GarageBand and Mail combined.
100% agree. the theory is there but the implementation so far is horrible. If i want to facetime a computer from iOS I have no indication if the user is online.
And for the record, iChat was the best name iMessage is the worst!
I agree that SMS pricing is ridiculous (although O2 in the UK have switched to unlimited texts on all their contract plans, at the expense of unlimited data, grr
), but this sort of thing would only be a viable alternative if it were made an open standard. Most people still won't have access to this service so we'll still need to text them.Speaking of open standards, anyone heard anything about FaceTime being standardised recently?
Its up and coming but not yet ready: viber
http://www.viber.com/
it works very well, been doing calls to android without a hitch. You need a fairly good connection though. 3G is almost mandatory. (Good Edge signals can work too)
I dont know what kind of texting plans do you have their? I get like 1000 messages with my plan that costs about 10 euros/month. (Also 1000minutes in to the same provider, but ****, only 100mb mobile internet, which sucks.)
I don't use face time. Using a camera really bugs me.
Wow it feels like it's been so long since Apple showcased iOS5 that I forgot a bunch of stuff. I forgot how much I was looking forward to iMessage.
I love the idea of ditching the asinine text messaging plans for my Wife and I. That's $10 a month of extortion I don't need.
For the instances where we want to send a text message to someone not on an iPhone, it should be cheaper to pay the per-message fee. I think I have maybe 2 or 3 friends, at most, who I text regularly and don't have an iPhone. The dozen or so others are all on iPhones.
I also think this is superbly clever of APple to gain insurmountable market traction before releasing iMessage. They want to topple the ridiculous 160 character limit, and insane pay scheme that is in place. They couldn't do that until they had so many iPhones in the market, that the carriers couldn't say "no."
Lastly, this may make an iPod Touch a viable communication medium for students who don't need voice.
PURE GENIUS, brought to you by pervasive market penetration. Mobile service providers would never let this happen if they had a choice.
For the instances where we want to send a text message to someone not on an iPhone, it should be cheaper to pay the per-message fee. I think I have maybe 2 or 3 friends, at most, who I text regularly and don't have an iPhone. The dozen or so others are all on iPhones.
I also think this is superbly clever of APple to gain insurmountable market traction before releasing iMessage. They want to topple the ridiculous 160 character limit, and insane pay scheme that is in place. They couldn't do that until they had so many iPhones in the market, that the carriers couldn't say "no."
Lastly, this may make an iPod Touch a viable communication medium for students who don't need voice.
PURE GENIUS, brought to you by pervasive market penetration. Mobile service providers would never let this happen if they had a choice.
Hey Dorv, did u ever find an old version of Airfoil Speakers that works on 3.1.3 *(old iphone 2g).
I replied to your thread you made about it but guessing you don't get a notification and couldn't find out how to PM you so.. I'm stalking you now. LOL!
This must be their intention, right? They seem to always try their best to streamline their products. It's an AWESOME idea that I'm really excited for, but not rolling them all into one app seems cumbersome.
Will there be a way (like viber) to have ichat or iPhone to scan all of your contacts and be able to tell you who is eligible to use message?
If so, may not be a bad idea to scan my addy book and dump my 20/mo texting plan.
If so, may not be a bad idea to scan my addy book and dump my 20/mo texting plan.
You really can't see a parallel between iMessage, FaceTime and iChat???
It's not like we want Safari, GarageBand and Mail combined.
I always thought Garage Mail Safari would be a good movie title.
Me too, but I'm sure we'd have heard about it during the keynote, especially as there were so few 'new' items to talk about.
I don't see what the big deal is...
You've always been able to use iChat to send texts to someone's iPhone (or any mobile phone, for that matter). Simply use "1+phone_number@aol.com" as the recipient address, and you can chat back and forth between mobile and desktop all day. Granted, it's not full iOS/iChat integration, and standard mobile messaging rates apply, but the capability is there.
I agree with those who say Internet-based (non SMS) texting, media sharing, and Facetime video should all be collapsed to one app that works with the desktop version of iChat, but Apple seem to be taking their sweet time getting there. I think it's just one of those cases where they think there is a sales-driven reason not to combine them, and they don't feel they owe anyone an explanation for the awkward disconnect.
You've always been able to use iChat to send texts to someone's iPhone (or any mobile phone, for that matter). Simply use "1+phone_number@aol.com" as the recipient address, and you can chat back and forth between mobile and desktop all day. Granted, it's not full iOS/iChat integration, and standard mobile messaging rates apply, but the capability is there.
I agree with those who say Internet-based (non SMS) texting, media sharing, and Facetime video should all be collapsed to one app that works with the desktop version of iChat, but Apple seem to be taking their sweet time getting there. I think it's just one of those cases where they think there is a sales-driven reason not to combine them, and they don't feel they owe anyone an explanation for the awkward disconnect.
Best Combo...
What we need is iChat + iMessage + FaceTime. (iMessage and FaceTime gets integrated into iChat). That would be best.
What we need is iChat + iMessage + FaceTime. (iMessage and FaceTime gets integrated into iChat). That would be best.
News on iMessage in Lion?
It is January 2012: is there any new news on integrating iMessage into OS X Lion for Mac and FaceTime? I am about to sell my iPad 2 and would like to retain the ability to iMessage from my Macbook Air (within facetime would be ideal). Thanks for any updates in advance. Happy New Year to all!
It is January 2012: is there any new news on integrating iMessage into OS X Lion for Mac and FaceTime? I am about to sell my iPad 2 and would like to retain the ability to iMessage from my Macbook Air (within facetime would be ideal). Thanks for any updates in advance. Happy New Year to all!
It's not like we want Safari, GarageBand and Mail combined.
See, what you really want is a web browser with an electric bass interface.