Peyote said:
More than likely Mac Connection will be able to do something similar too.
Though it could play in reverse, and there could be price increases a few weeks from now too.
Oh, what to do.
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Apple lowered the prices of Mac Mini upgrades! and now 8x Superdrive!
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More than likely Mac Connection will be able to do something similar too.
Though it could play in reverse, and there could be price increases a few weeks from now too.
Oh, what to do.
dicklacara said:
I REALLY hope that's not the case...if so, that's false advertising plain and simple, since on the BTO page for PowerMacs, the drive is listed as an 8X Superdrive, and that drive does burn at 8X. I've never seen apple list the read speed as the drive speed before, I hope their not doing it now.
swissmann said:
If you put everything in the imac into the mac mini then it is not as good of a deal. the biggest bonus of the mac mini is it's flexibility. you can add or take off what you like and put it anywhere you like without it getting in the way. Similarly, you could buy an all in one stereo system and have everything all built in, or you could just by an amplifier, then choose your speakers and cd-changer based on what suits your needs the best.
This is weird.
Supply and demand. Lots of people are talking about what this means as far as the computer and early adopters and such. But... apple is a buisness-the only logical reason to cut the price is if there isn't enough demand. But isn't there a wait on the mini's? Maybe apple sees that it's only an early adopter phenomanon, and they want demand to exceed supply for a while longer, to build hype? I thought these were selling well, but price cuts indicate the opposite. Then again, maybe mini's are selling great, just not with BTO options, and so it's simply price cutting in those...
Supply and demand. Lots of people are talking about what this means as far as the computer and early adopters and such. But... apple is a buisness-the only logical reason to cut the price is if there isn't enough demand. But isn't there a wait on the mini's? Maybe apple sees that it's only an early adopter phenomanon, and they want demand to exceed supply for a while longer, to build hype? I thought these were selling well, but price cuts indicate the opposite. Then again, maybe mini's are selling great, just not with BTO options, and so it's simply price cutting in those...
Hector said:bring on the bitching about no powerbook's
the imac g5 and the powerbook/ibook optical drives will surely be 8X from now on like what they did with the powermac when the emac got an 8x superdrive
Could be that given the relatively low costs for the dual layer DVDRs, that the next updates to the "higher end" models may have them as well. It would provide a reason for those looking at the Mac mini to truly consider moving up.
This comes as a surprise indeed.
Who saw this coming? This now looks very attractive indeed.
8x SuperDrives are also coming to the PB, iBook and iMac G5 lines.
Should I buy or not, hmm.....nah I shall wait.
Who saw this coming? This now looks very attractive indeed.
8x SuperDrives are also coming to the PB, iBook and iMac G5 lines.
Should I buy or not, hmm.....nah I shall wait.
Bummer!
I just got off the phone with a sales rep who checked with higher-ups and verified for me that the superdrive reads dvds at 8x and writes at 4x. This is not the same drive as in the the emacs or the powermacs. He said that they would correct the info on the apple store page.
I just got off the phone with a sales rep who checked with higher-ups and verified for me that the superdrive reads dvds at 8x and writes at 4x. This is not the same drive as in the the emacs or the powermacs. He said that they would correct the info on the apple store page.
Peyote said:
I think that's exactly what it is because the specs page hasn't changed one bit since 1/11. Someone is probably just running behind in getting specs page updated. As everyone has said, an 8x SuperDrive means 8x burning, not reading. The only other possibility it could be would be that it's a typo. Either way, we should know within the next day or so I'd think.
Regarding the 5400 RPM hard drive, in the anandtech review they stated that their Mini (a 1.25) did have a 5400 RPM Segate hard drive installed and that is seems to be the 'luck of the draw' if you get it or a 4200 RPM drive. Hopefully this signals that Apple will be using the 5400 RPM drives.
eduo said:
I don't think that will happen. There are many of us that would like to think of ourselves as savvy shoppers, that are rethinking of our plans to wait. Simply because we know what goes down in retail can go up.
Since this seems to be the first time Apple has done something like this, it is possible that they are testing the waters for dynamic pricing.
Superhob said:Bummer!
I just got off the phone with a sales rep who checked with higher-ups and verified for me that the superdrive reads dvds at 8x and writes at 4x. This is not the same drive as in the the emacs or the powermacs. He said that they would correct the info on the apple store page.
lame.
Keep in mind that the ram on the Mini is not supposed to be user-serviced; rather, they require one of those "apple certified" people to replace it. Check to see if it voids your warranty before you try replacing on your own.nydoofus said:
That said, there are plenty of us that have replaced ram on systems where you were supposed to take it to a dealer to replace. However, late model Macs haven't had this 'requirement', which suggests to me that there may be something tricky about replacing the RAM on your own.
--D
Price drops and spec boosts on a product that's already selling well--and just after introduction... Apple is now dangerously unpredictable. I am chilled to the bone.
Does this mean they think they can meet demand soon?
Don't forget to take advantage of their price protection policy if you already bought!
BTW, current edu pricing:
Mac Mini: $479 or $579
512 RAM: $67
1 GB: $262
80 GB HD: $45
8x SuperDrive: $90
Bluetooth: $45
AirPort: $71
BT and AirPort both: $89
Mouse and keyboard set: $52
Mouse or keyboard alone: $26
Wireless mouse and keyboard set: $99 (same as non-edu)
Wireless mouse or keyboard alone: $53
Composite/S-video/TV adapter: $17.10
AppleCare extension: $99
17" NEC monitor: $159
20" Cinema Display: $899
23" Cinema Display: $1599
iWork Academic: $49
MS Office 2004 Student/Teacher: $149.95
Final Cut Express HD: $149 (half price!)
Belkin or Kensington 4-port silver USB 2.0 hub: $29.95
Belkin 7-port silver USB 2.0 hub: $49.95
Belkin Keyboard/Video/Mouse/Audio-Out/Audio-In switch with 2 sets of cables and a 2-port USB hub: $129
Not bad.
The 3rd-party stuff (CRT, hubs) is the same price as non-edu.
Does this mean they think they can meet demand soon?
Don't forget to take advantage of their price protection policy if you already bought!
BTW, current edu pricing:
Mac Mini: $479 or $579
512 RAM: $67
1 GB: $262
80 GB HD: $45
8x SuperDrive: $90
Bluetooth: $45
AirPort: $71
BT and AirPort both: $89
Mouse and keyboard set: $52
Mouse or keyboard alone: $26
Wireless mouse and keyboard set: $99 (same as non-edu)
Wireless mouse or keyboard alone: $53
Composite/S-video/TV adapter: $17.10
AppleCare extension: $99
17" NEC monitor: $159
20" Cinema Display: $899
23" Cinema Display: $1599
iWork Academic: $49
MS Office 2004 Student/Teacher: $149.95
Final Cut Express HD: $149 (half price!)
Belkin or Kensington 4-port silver USB 2.0 hub: $29.95
Belkin 7-port silver USB 2.0 hub: $49.95
Belkin Keyboard/Video/Mouse/Audio-Out/Audio-In switch with 2 sets of cables and a 2-port USB hub: $129
Not bad.
The 3rd-party stuff (CRT, hubs) is the same price as non-edu.
Nermal said:
Thanks for pointing it out!
I do wonder if it is worth to get the superdrive upgrade since i-DVD 05 now supports writing an image to disk. In effect we could just use an external burner, perhaps with dual layer since those are supposed to be supported in Tiger
No price changes in Belgium as of yet. Apple still lists the 1 Gb upgrade for 430 Eurobucks....That is about twice as much Crucial is selling it in the US!
Mac mini missing from Target.com
Target.com is no longer listing the Mac mini as they were up until today. Does this have to do with the lowering of component prices? the delays in production? or the 10% discount codes flying around the internet?
Target.com is no longer listing the Mac mini as they were up until today. Does this have to do with the lowering of component prices? the delays in production? or the 10% discount codes flying around the internet?
Peyote said:
Look, I know you're bitter about the extra price you're going to have to pay, Mr. Grumpy, but no need to get all defensive.
I just received an email from Apple regarding my Mac Mini order:
To Our Valued Apple Customer:
Thank you for your recent order.
We are writing to inform you that your order has been changed to reflect our new, lower pricing!
To Our Valued Apple Customer:
Thank you for your recent order.
We are writing to inform you that your order has been changed to reflect our new, lower pricing!
HarmlessRabbit said:Look, I know you're bitter about the extra price you're going to have to pay, but no need to get all defensive.
I hope you were being sarcastic, because if you weren't, you didn't read enough to know what I was saying.
I'm not bitter about paying more, because I won't be paying more. I'm not buying Tiger.
Go ahead and wait for Tiger to buy your mini...in the mean time I'll tell you all about how great it is having one.
impierced said:
I'm sorry, but if you read the reviews on this product you will find out that it has terrible problems and people are considering filing a class action lawsuit.
One of the major issues is that it does not work with the Apple displays. I reccomend you stay away from this product. I'm sure many companies will be releasing DVI KVM's in the next few months.
Object-X said:Apple's memory policy and prices are an embarrassment to what is an otherwise excellent product line. Memory sticks are up to 50% more than at Crucial and stock computers with only 256MB is just plain sad. And not only that, but Mac are notoriously picky about cheap memory. One of my coworkers who just bought an iMac came in my office complaining that the "only" thing he didn't like about the Mac was how slow it was! I told him to upgrade the memory and he just came in this morning telling me that solved his problem and everything is perfect now. How many new users of Apple computers will have a bad experience simply because their system out of the box underperforms due to insufficient memory? Stupid! My coworkers statement to me says it all..."I wouldn't have known what the problem was unless you told me." What good is a G5 processor if you don't have the memory to run anything?
While 256mb is not enough for those of us here on MR, it is enough for maybe 80% of the users out there.
For consumers that buy online from Apple, Apple does need to do a better job at convincing those users to upgrade to 512mb. Some thing like a tag line under the memory upgrade spot mentioning increased performance with 512mb and 1gb upgrades.
You mention that compared to Crucial that Apple memory prices are up to 50% higher. With the price drop on this machine at least, that is not the case. Based on PC2700 memory the differences are 7.5% lower for the Apple 512mb memory and 30.8% higher for the Apple 1gb than Crucial. Yes, I know that does not factor in the wasted cost of the 256mb module.
In the end though the consumer can buy piece of mind that the total package will be covered un the Apple warranty. And most likely if the go with the 1gb RAM and AE/BT, that they will never have to open the box again. This will satisfy the 80% of the users that the Mac mini is targeted towards.
For the other 20%, we may be willing to risk damage and the warranty (and ourselves based on a posting here about a guy that sliced his finger pretty well and bent the metal tongues installing RAM in his Mac mini).