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Just one more point of possible failure that will end up frustrating customers. The car manufactures began using touch controls for volume, temperature, etc a few years back until, unsurprisingly, they started returning to physical buttons shortly thereafter. Software is much more prone to bugs than hardware failure. Physical buttons are best in many instances!

Do you have anything to back up your claim that physical buttons are less prone to failure than software ones? Apple engineers and managers certainly need your information as they must have somehow overlooked that fact and are blindly incorporating something that will prove to be a negative experience for their customers, resulting in fewer sales and less revenue and profits, as well higher warranty costs with even less revenue for them.
 
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Never knew this...interesting. So now I'm thinking whats the point of the home button at all?
Right now it serves as Touch ID. I think they are waiting until they can do cameras, ALS, speaker, and Touch ID under the display. Then we would get the edge to edge display without compromise. Which is the experience I want, a beautiful display with no cameras or speaker cutout, no Touch ID ring and no light sensors that are visible, which would mean no bezels. Apple has been positioning theirselves for giving us exactly what we have been asking for, people just can't wait.

Did I mention I want a new MacBook Pro? Lol
 
Do you have anything to back up your claim that physical buttons are less prone to failure than software ones?
*sigh* Anyone who has lived a relatively normal life outside of a bubble can tell you what f_cks up more: software or hardware, even or especially on non-computer products. It's new and it's exciting! I call it: life experience! ;-) Other than that, I got nuthin', so you win, I suppose. :-\
Apple engineers and managers certainly need your information as they must have somehow overlooked that fact and are blindly incorporating something that will prove to be a negative experience for their customers, resulting in fewer sales and less revenue and profits, as well higher warranty costs with even less revenue for them.
Yes, yes. Apple is the best. Apple can do no wrong. Whatever Apple does should be good enough for you, so shut yer trap, be a grateful little drone and keep shovelling your money to them. I get it.
 
Apple just running out of ideas for the iPhone. However I don't think there is much more you can do and we will just see incremental upgrades from all manufactures. They need to concentrate on the software more. Once upon a time that was a fundamental difference between Apple and others.
 
Not sure why people seem to think the home button is weak to be honest. I own a repair shop and repair hundreds, the only real home button failures I've seen is when it's been ripped off when the screens smashed..

Only seemed to be a massive problem in the iPhone 4/4's so not sure why people think it's across the whole iPhone range.
 
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It's good to have a fallback, but the aim is to never need a fallback. Why is a device so new already popping up such errors? iPhone 7 is truly an experimental device release. Looking forward to 2017's all new device.
So what's the fallback when a physical home button stops working?
 
Just one more point of possible failure that will end up frustrating customers. The car manufactures began using touch controls for volume, temperature, etc a few years back until, unsurprisingly, they started returning to physical buttons shortly thereafter. Software is much more prone to bugs than hardware failure. Physical buttons are best in many instances!

i absolutely hate touch controls in the car. gf has a honda civic with touch buttons and there is so much lag on the volume control lol. drives me crazy
 
Two things, it's barely one month since the device was released and there is a problem, one customer's experience here could represent hundreds around the world. The device knows there's a problem but and it is telling the the user they may be a problem. From a design point of view, it is a confusing user experience.

hundreds? Still well below a problem issue.
 
Taptic Engine is separate from the Home Button. Pressing it gives haptic feedback via Taptic Engine just like other actions also give haptic feedback. Home Button is pressure sensitive like 3D Touch. Basically failure of one does not mean failure of the other.
 
So waking up this morning the iPhone Home Button seems to work as normal. The home button/haptic engine hasn't done anything weird yet for the day.

If you haven't already, I would still get it looked at by Apple. I bet if you called customer service and told them about this thread they would swap it out in a heartbeat.
 
Oahh, the Apple geniuses oversaw the VirtualHome tweak that might have spared us mechanical tear and this software nuisance
(and saved room for a decent headphone jack)
 
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So far roughly 24 million iPhones have been sold and one user is reporting an issue. Saying there could be hundreds around the world with this issue is just stirring up a big bowl of FUD.

"From a design point of view, it is a confusing user experience."

It is only confusing for people who first encounter the issue and then cannot read the simple message on the screen. As this would be a rare experience, I don't think many will get the shakes over it.

You may find it confusing, but I suspect the one person who reported this issue knew what the issue was: "The Home Button May Need Service," and, knew what to do: "in the meantime you can use the Home button below."
.....and Apple designed a work around for that one person...lucky him!
 
Well at least there is a built in temporary fix. Hopefully this isn't something people will have to deal with often. I have been impressed with the performance of the home button so far.

Mine has been great so far and knowing accessibility allows me to keep the screen home button when I need it too for water proof cases etc...made me happy.

Also, how many threads have we seen about people worried their home button click wasn't just perfect...and what even constituted normal? I know I'm glad the new button isn't prone issues like the old one from when my kids use devices with sticky fingers.
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iPhone 7 may go down in history as the worst iPhone ever.

This is a huge failure on Apple's part!

Yep probably? Oh wait...doubt it. I think it is pretty great so far. No problems here. My home button even works.
 
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*sigh* Anyone who has lived a relatively normal life outside of a bubble can tell you what f_cks up more: software or hardware, even or especially on non-computer products. It's new and it's exciting! I call it: life experience! ;-) Other than that, I got nuthin', so you win, I suppose. :-\
Yes, yes. Apple is the best. Apple can do no wrong. Whatever Apple does should be good enough for you, so shut yer trap, be a grateful little drone and keep shovelling your money to them. I get it.


No this isn't about which type of button someone prefers, I was asking you to come forward because one of my roomies is a hardware engineer who designs items like hardware controls and he laughed at your contention that the failure rate of software controls is greater than the failure rate with mechanical buttons. Since he must be laughably wrong, and you obviously have important information unknown to him and the engineers at Apple, and the entire tech industry, you could be doing a tremendous service to the entire industry by enlightening them about their misunderstanding of this key aspect to their industry. You could correct, for example, Fujitsu, the 4th largest IT services company in the world and a major computer products manufacture falsely claimed in an industry white paper (that I found in a 30 second Google search that produced countless misinformed articles) they authored on the benefits of software versus mechanical controls that I :

  1. Durability: Touch elements do not contain moving parts like mechanical input devices. Thus no wearing out of these parts.

  2. Robust housing design: It is easier to design devices for rough environments. Compared to conventional solutions, no holes or other openings are necessary where humidity and dust could enter the device

Please get the truth out and save the industry from this fateful path they are on!
 
Just one more point of possible failure that will end up frustrating customers. The car manufactures began using touch controls for volume, temperature, etc a few years back until, unsurprisingly, they started returning to physical buttons shortly thereafter. Software is much more prone to bugs than hardware failure. Physical buttons are best in many instances!
nevertheless, it is the way of the future.

i have a car with almost exclusively software/touchscreen buttons and they have consistently worked very reliably for several years. so, it's all in the programming. if you do it right, with failure mode compensation and redundant cores, it will work fine. my money is on apple, frankly. they know how to do this.
 
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IMO the haptic feedback engine is a waste of space ! Unless you have a disability that would require it .
 
This actually has me really worried.

My 7 Plus *did* encounter a nasty freeze up last week for no apparent reason. Lasted for about two minutes, completely unresponsive, power button and all. Fortunately (after reading this) the Home button continues to work fine though.

Something like this better not require me having Apple Care if it does indeed happen. I, and I'm sure most people, wouldn't consider something like the Taptic Engine failing to be their fault. Especially after a month?
 
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