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Apple Reaches Out to Cupertino Neighbors Regarding 'Campus 2' Plans
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Is so cool
How about this one, already there since 1966, Evoluon Eindhoven the Netherlands, build for Philips.
Are you saying that a company should build headquarters/offices based on employees food preferences and places they'd need to relax at?
All of what you are listing (new dishes, places to check out etc. happens OUTSIDE of work on YOUR time, so why would any company be obligated to consider that?
And, if you are from Europe, you know that it is very hard these days to find
large parcels of real estate to build offices like that and for sure not near town centers.
There hasn't really been an outcry about this project in Cupertino, because smart people realize that it's a win win for the town.
Apple is actually doing something many corporations don't do. They are asking for feedback, realizing there may be some good ideas coming they haven't thought off.
It would also show them areas of resident's concerns they can (or do not ) address.
Just because Apple has a high profile doesn't mean they need to be knocked for everything they do.
Would anybody care if Microsoft, Facebook or Google would build something like this?
Also, don't assume that MacRumors only has Americans or UK residents posting here.
I am from Europe and was lucky to travel the world quite a bit.
Judging what is going on in other countries from ones desk without actually living there isn't really the way to go.
...no company has that power over me. Every company out there THINKS they have that power over me, and probably have it over other people, but I'm a little peculiar in that I have a pretty good understanding of my rights.
Actually, there's a space between the 3rd and 4th checkboxes where you can add your own checkbox and remark. 
Whoever took the photographs either doesn't know how to lay the paper flat to avoid glare, or Apple has yet again shipped another piece out of their facilities without any glare protection.
Amazing.
Amazing.
They also didn't offer a checkbox for "please let me keep breathing". How cunning of them! For sure that's part of their plan to make us think that breathing is not an option! Oh, someone stop them!!1!
(see? I am already short of breath!)
No, I'm belittling the morons here on MR who act as if they know anything about the location, town, or situation, and keep whining about what Apple "should" do. The people of Cupertino know exactly what Apple means to them, and the future of their town, so to them the score is completely clear.
Never said anything about walking into buildings, but it sure looks like a great area to take a walk.
You seem to be only capable of processing 1-bit information (Yes/no, must be mutually exclusive). The building of the Apple Campus in Cupertino can be a win-win proposition, if the city, the people living there, and Apple work together. City gains tax, people enjoy higher property value and potentially more job opportunities (even cleaners and gardeners !), while Apple benefit from being close to its HQ and continue to tap on its existing talent pool.
There is already a well-known channel to voice your objections, and discuss related issues with the city council. US home owners know that very well. I reckon Apple's mailing aaims to provide a clear channel for positive input. I suspect people are unlikely to walk in to the city council and sing praises to Apple there. So the mailing is a way for Apple to balance the feedback. It's one of those corporate planning and PR exercises.
For concerns regarding traffic, if Cupertino city deems viable, they can always embark on road projects early to expand the ramps and road system. If you have been there, Pruneridge is not really a major road. It will affect the people living along the street, but part of that street goes through HP campus. It will also cut off a direct access into the Cupertino Village carpark, but the vendors there will likely enjoy an increase in business since the new campus is almost just across the street.
The new campus probably need to follow height limit in the neighbourhood. They will also need to avoid over-crowdedness. Hence it may not be possible to build one campus to house everyone in Apple. It would be impractical. Not to mention, it addresses people's concerns about traffic. The trees they planted will also dilute the density so people in the area won't feel congested.
I see from the brochure that the new building be powered by solar (partially ?). Hope they continue to improve their energy efficiency. I eat at Cupertino Village almost every weekend. Will definitely try to walk around the tree area in the new campus.
Speaking of public access, I took my family to Amphitheater area to watch the 4th July fireworks last year. As expected, the streets and businesses parking lots in the viccinity were all full -- *except* Google parking lots. They had security guards and regular employees on bikes shooing away visitors in all their carparks. I tried to park in 5 different Google carparks but were told to leave immediately when we got out. My pre-school kid were almost in tears since we were late to see the fireworks. But nope, we had to go and circle the area to hunt for another lot far away.
Businesses do like to keep their properties clean and secure. I don't thiink Apple would behave differently if a large public crowd swarmed to the new campus.
MS's buildings are just regular "blocks" amongst the rest. Nothing much to see or rave about, but hey it's just a work area. They also benefit the city and people.
Businesses do like to keep their properties clean and secure. I don't thiink Apple would behave differently if a large public crowd swarmed to the new campus.
MS's buildings are just regular "blocks" amongst the rest. Nothing much to see or rave about, but hey it's just a work area. They also benefit the city and people.
Simular round buildings
Amsterdam office VMX Architects have won a competition to design a new Hilton Hotel in Inner Mongolia, China.
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The round, 32,000 square metre building will incorporate 300 hotel rooms, restaurants, bars, conference rooms and a sports centre.
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OR
The new GCHQ in Cheltenham, UK, has been nicknamed the "Doughnut" because of its circular design.
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Amsterdam office VMX Architects have won a competition to design a new Hilton Hotel in Inner Mongolia, China.
The round, 32,000 square metre building will incorporate 300 hotel rooms, restaurants, bars, conference rooms and a sports centre.
OR
The new GCHQ in Cheltenham, UK, has been nicknamed the "Doughnut" because of its circular design.
Further inspiration for the Mothership Connection.
Just noticed in CNN article that Apple Campus 2 will employ about 22 percent of the city's population of 58,000.
Just noticed in CNN article that Apple Campus 2 will employ about 22 percent of the city's population of 58,000.
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Actually, it means that the town's daytime population will be about 22% larger, and likely 10,000 to 12,000 or so will be driving into Cupertino each day.
$400K will buy a 600 sq ft 1 bedroom condo in Cupertino. If you want 3 bedroom 2 bath, around a million is the starting place.
Many people commute into Silicon Valley because they simply could not afford to buy in the town where they work. (And rents are outrageous as well.)
Cupertino is expensive because of the competitive school district. It's one of the bests in Bay Area.
In any case, if Cupertino city officials and home owners see the upside, none of our noise here will matter.
Wherever Apple choose to go -- even to the city -- you will still see both growing pain and joy. Property price and space in the city will be worse than Cupertino.
In any case, if Cupertino city officials and home owners see the upside, none of our noise here will matter.
Wherever Apple choose to go -- even to the city -- you will still see both growing pain and joy. Property price and space in the city will be worse than Cupertino.
Thank you for the psychoanalyis - but stick with your day job.
Too bad for the Cupertino citizens that live close to the spaceship, though.
There's a stop light for Pruneridge on Lawrence. If you have been there, you'd know that no minor streets have stoplights on Lawrence.
Nice guess without any backup facts.
The spaceship campus is less than 2 kilometres from 8 story buildings at City Center - so perhaps industrial/commercial zoning doesn't have a height limit. Probably outside of downtown San Jose, height restrictions in commercial zones are most likely not an issue.
Parts of downtown San Jose are directly under the flight path for SJC, so there are some pretty strict limits that have to do with not crashing airplanes into buildings.
But even with that restriction, Adobe's 14 story headquartes is right under the flight path.
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Thank you for your concern. I have a great paying job ! ^_^
... for a healthy increase in home value, and a nice park nearby. The city may have to work something out to prepare for the increased traffic though. It's part and parcel of growth.
^_^ Traffic light is for crossing Lawrance. Without which, it would be impossible to do so, especially for a small, quiet Pruneridge segment. Like I said, I go there every weekend.
My goodness. 2KM !!! It's far away enough. Different rules for city center
Look around the area where HP buildings stand today. There are _no_ tall buildings. The residents will definitely complain if the nearby buildings stick out like a sore thumb.
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Where is it indicated they aren't accepting negative feedback? You simply don't check the boxes "in support" and instead you put your negative feedback in the comments section.
However, does anyone truly belief that Cupertino is NOT going to approve this?
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Except that Apple has announced that they're keeping almost all of their existing space even after the new campus is built. So there will still be a substantial increase in the number of employees.
Assembly Hall, University of Illinois
The way they put these buildings up is absolutely unbelievable.
Considers what developers at Apple you are are talking about. If you are a maintence utility app guy, the pay is ok. If you are one of "The Core" in charge of architecture and overall system performance, some of the top techies are doing just south of a half million a year in salary.
Yes, the 1% gets good salary.
Same as it ever was.
But the "maintence utility app guy" looks at the housing prices and other costs of living in the Bay Area (gee, gas was over $4.70/gallon in the city this weekend), and realizes that it's "not OK".
A neighbor works for Apple, and complains that he can only rent - impossible to do the down payment and mortgage here (9 km from 1 Infinite Loop). (But, 9km from 1 Infinite Loop means that we're 4 km from the GooglePlex and RedmondSouth - so Google and Microsoft are driving the prices here.)
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If you can't run with the big dogs, stay off the street! Many that can't make it to the top here take a few "valley years" and trade it off as a mystique as they take jobs in easier and less competitive regions marrying the safe girls and watching little league games.
Nothing is keeping him from quitting and moving away. Many do a few years at Apple and then take that rep back to their home town and buy a modest house in cash and travel around the country or world in consulting.
This area is full of risk takers and achievers with multiple sources of income. If you can't run with the big dogs, stay off the street.