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gauchogolfer

macrumors 603
Jan 28, 2005
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American Riviera
I guess the moral of the story is that it's all well and good to have a great technology product, but if you can't produce it in the kind of scale that a company like Apple requires, it just doesn't matter. I guess PA might make a quad-core CoreDuo-killer sometime in 2007, but if they can't make 10 million of them, it's moot.
 

Queso

Suspended
Mar 4, 2006
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Not surprising in the slightest. I know we as customers like Apple a lot, but they aren't nice to their industry partners. The Macweb was raving about PA Semi in the months leading to the Intel announcement, so of course Apple would have been looking at it for longer than that. It's just a shame PA weren't 6-12 months ahead of their own schedules. This week's 2GHz dual-core MacBook could have had one of these inside of it.
 

Blue Velvet

Moderator emeritus
Jul 4, 2004
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One problem with moving to PA Semi would be that the company was not going to ship its low-power multicore product in volume until 2007.

Let me get this right. You're running a multi-billion dollar technology company, trying to design and produce products 2-6 years ahead of time but you'll risk a critical part of your business strategy on an unproven startup?

How can something be called a 'superstar' chip when it's not even available?
 

gekko513

macrumors 603
Oct 16, 2003
6,301
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Blue Velvet said:
How can something be called a 'superstar' chip when it's not even available?
Yes, there's be much more uncertainty surrounding this chip than the G5, and we all know how far IBM got to 3GHz with that.
 

Macmadant

macrumors 6502a
Jun 4, 2005
851
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gekko513 said:
Yes, there's be much more uncertainty surrounding this chip than the G5, and we all know how far IBM got to 3GHz with that.
The G5 did reach 3 ghz but apple hasn't put them in their powermacs

In late 2005, the 970MP replaced the 970FX in Apple's high end Power Mac G5 computers, while the iMac G5 and the 'legacy' Power Mac G5 continued to use the 970FX processor. In early 2006, IBM announced the PowerPC 970GX, a slightly redesigned 970FX core that reached 3 GHz.
:rolleyes:
 

odedia

macrumors 65816
Nov 24, 2005
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There are other considerations why they chose intel:

1. they can produce chips in greater volume.
2. They have a better R&D, and the money to put into it
3. The intel chip can allow running of Windows alongside Mac OS X - that's a big plus for consumers.
4. Apple didn't have the 1+ years it had to wait for these new chips to arrive, if they'll ever arrive. The G4 chip was already dead-slow compared to a 2 years old Intel mobility chip.

Oded S.
 

ahunter3

macrumors 6502
Oct 15, 2003
377
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Apple may well soon have a shadow build of OS X running on a computer based on the new chip, assuming it looks to live up to hype. They don't have to start selling them in order to be prepared to start selling them, and even if they do at some pont start selling them, they don't have to cease making Intel-based Macs and releasing Intel-based & PowerPC-based OS X.

Meanwhile, though, Apple's already done their turn at going with a promising new chip only to have economies-of-scale allow Intel to out-develop and get ahead on the performance curve. The PowerPC really is a better chip architecture than x86, but the resources weren't there.
 
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