apple's are CHEAPER than dell's!!

[ZildjianKX]

Jeez, that 1.4 GHz Pentium-M would not just crush a iBook, it would crush the top of the line powerbook too... no reason for anyone to get upset, but its true... and the battery will last about twice as long while it does the crushing

 

[Wyrm]

Originally posted by ZildjianKX
Jeez, that 1.4 GHz Pentium-M would not just crush a iBook, it would crush the top of the line powerbook too... no reason for anyone to get upset, but its true... and the battery will last about twice as long while it does the crushing

Yeah - theoretical processing speed is not one of the strong points of the Powerbooks. Practical use, however, is.

The overall package is also just MUCH more elegant.

-Wyrm

 

[Stojamow]

Re: apple's are CHEAPER than dell's!!

Originally posted by kuyu
Check out these comparable systems and the student price after taxes.

14.1 iBook: 933 G4, 256 ddr266, 40 GB, combo drive, extreme, ati 32ddr, app, bluetooth.
AFTER TAX: $1606.96

14.1 Dell inspiron 600m: 1.4 pentium M, 256 ddr266, 40 GB, combo drive, 802.11g, ati 32ddr, 3 year warranty and 3 year tech support, bluetooth.
AFTER TAX: $2069.12

This is amazing. There's almost a $500 difference. For the price of the Dell you could get a powerbook! And I thought Dell was the "bargain PC specialist".

No news here


This is one of the reasons I finally bought Powerbook. If you buy an Avid qualified Dell you have to put down about 50% more money and this has been going on 6 months already (when looking for full price comparison only)- as far as I know...

+In some point you want to buy a desktop anyway so there is no point to waste any more money for laptop while eiditing as necessary

So, all video professionals spending time on the road should go for Mac then

 

[ITR 81]

I compared my friends Dell and my PB. My PB has 1GHz with 512meg of ram, the Dell had the same ram but has 2GHz processor. He paid just over $2,600. I paid just over 3k for my PB. When we compared them he and I both noticed the PB starts up and shutdown faster. The UI is faster on the PB and similar apps like Office started up faster on the PB then his Dell. He was pissed by the fact he paid so much money for faster processor to find it was slower then PB. He told me he would've got a PB but he thought the Dell would be faster and it wasn't. Maybe it is in some apps but from just using it he said my PB is faster..and this was before Panther. So now it's even faster and I haven't even added ram to it yet.

I hate Dells because folks tend to have too many issues with them. I would rather go with IBM if I had to pick a PC laptop. As for battery performance my PB lasts just over 4hrs with modem and a USB mouse running on it. My friends Dell only ran 3 hrs doing the samething. In the mil we used Pansonic Toughbooks and didn't use any extra except LP and it only lasted 3hrs if that! The only Sony's I've seen last a long time was smaller sub-notbooks.

 

[dieselg4]

Originally posted by kuyu
glad to see all the discussion. As stated, I'm a college student and price is of utmost importance. While any pentium chip will smoke a powerpc chip, I've realized that there is no point to all that extra power. I am going buy an ibook as soon as I get the funds together.

Any pentium chip? Surely not a Pentium MMX 233.

 

[tomf87]

Originally posted by dieselg4
Any pentium chip? Surely not a Pentium MMX 233.

Nah, I think he was referring to the Pentium 60. Yes and that's 5-volts at the proc.

 

[tomf87]

Originally posted by ITR 81
I compared my friends Dell and my PB. My PB has 1GHz with 512meg of ram, the Dell had the same ram but has 2GHz processor. He paid just over $2,600. I paid just over 3k for my PB. When we compared them he and I both noticed the PB starts up and shutdown faster. The UI is faster on the PB and similar apps like Office started up faster on the PB then his Dell. He was pissed by the fact he paid so much money for faster processor to find it was slower then PB. He told me he would've got a PB but he thought the Dell would be faster and it wasn't. Maybe it is in some apps but from just using it he said my PB is faster..and this was before Panther. So now it's even faster and I haven't even added ram to it yet.

I hate Dells because folks tend to have too many issues with them. I would rather go with IBM if I had to pick a PC laptop. As for battery performance my PB lasts just over 4hrs with modem and a USB mouse running on it. My friends Dell only ran 3 hrs doing the samething. In the mil we used Pansonic Toughbooks and didn't use any extra except LP and it only lasted 3hrs if that! The only Sony's I've seen last a long time was smaller sub-notbooks.

Did your friend reload his Dell with just the OS? I was curious because all of the PC laptops I've ever seen run like junk out of the gate, because of the OEM apps. I always blow it all away before I even think about using it in production.

 

[joeconvert]

Notes from a P4 M 1.8Ghz User

Hey all.....

I use a Toshiba Tecra 9100 P4 M 1.8 Ghz with 512MB of RAM. This is my work machine. We have several differnt flavors of P4 Ms around the office. Here is what I genrally notice....

As a precursor to what I am about to say let me get the following item in the open:

- 2 Years ago I referred to a copy of MacWorld laying around as ChumpWorld
- While I have never been a Windows fan, I have been a vocal supporter of Linux/Unix on x86 for quite some time.
- About 8 months ago I educated myself on Power PC architecture and the Mac line in general and purchased a desktop. I am know looking at acquiring a PB in the next year.

In general P4s have absolutely worthless battery life. I assume that those praising the battery life of Intel based products have not had real experience with them in the field. They can last,b ut only have the vaunted processors are turned down so much with SpeedStep that my old P 233 could smoke it. I know from experience with cutting edge Toshiba and Dells. Don't even make me laugh about the Centrino package. Centrino is in my opinion the biggest joke Intel ever forced upon the computing public. The chipsets are buggy and leave much to be desired in terms of performance.

Wireless is great to have integrated into laptops, but Centrino, at least for now, is not the answer. The range is inferior to standard PC cards as well as the interoperability with existing systems. Let's not forget the lack of a G option.

I would also like to point out to some of the posters that there is NO relibale, and feature rich UNIX based option for laptops. Good luck with Linux. The support for laptops is laughable. Mac OS X remains the ONLY Unix based OS that fully supports mobile hardware, provides for ease of use by the end user and supports popular productivity and business applications. Not to mention one of the most stable computing platforms available to the general public.

Intel has had an impressive run, but 64-bit computing will be a major challenge for them. Time will tell how badly they bet wrong, but right now it looks like AMD will successfully gain inroads in the high end PC world. This will eventually trickle down to the laptop space.