Hiya people and happy new year. I'm hoping for some career advice in regard to starting out and getting my foot in the door in my chosen profession. I'm aiming to work my way towards an 'assosciate art director' role within a magazine publication and upwards or outwards from their. It's taking me a heck of a lot of time to figure out that's the sort of position I could see myself enjoying when i'm old and falling apart (even more-so than I am now). It's also something I can see myself doing overseas as I plan one day to go live in america with my degree once I feel I can get a job offer utilising my degree (all you need is a degree and a job offer to emigrate, easier said than done heh!). First of all has anyone worked or started out in a pre-press printing firm? Did it involve manipulating pdf's/layout images ready for print? I'm a little naive to how exactly it all works. What I have in mind is overseeing everything a magazine would send you to be printed and adjusting where necessary. Does such a position exist? I finish my degree this year in around 4/5 months time but i'm looking to start off in anything remotely related to what I want to eventually do. It would be lovely simply to begin working full time join the real world pay off some debts so anything is on the tables for now. Ideally I want to find something that I can add to my resume as 'experience' that's pretty much what this post is all about really. I would love to just walk into a magazine company with an 'associate art director' position all lined up for me and spend my days creating/editing magazine or newspaper layouts in quark but without real commercial experience (I only have non-payed freelance experience) I don't think it happens like that? If I could get a job in a pre-press printing firm utilising my layout/editing skills for a year or two that's bound to be a decent start with no real experience. I would get to see bottom end how the magazines are printed which will help me when designing layouts in future higher up positions. Has anyone done a degree with creating layouts (quark/indesign etc) in mind? How did you begin in your chosen field after finishing university? For the life of me I can't find out what the correct title would be for overlooking and adjusting publications for print in a pre-press environment. If I could find out the title of that position I should hopefully be able to register with an agency to get me some relating work? It's a bit difficult without any contacts within the magazine publication field to find out all these things. The small amount I know about this subject is from many many man hours researching through the internet. Where else could you suggest I start out when I finish my degree? I've had suggestions of working for a printing firm like mentioned overseeing documents sent by magazines (or newspapers) for print. Does anyone know the job title of such a position? It'll help me research what's required for the job. I'd like to start getting things organised in my head now ready for applying to such positions when I finally finish my degree in a few months time. much appreciated p.s. This is the kind of role i'm 'everntually' aiming for then upwards from that (that's the plan atleast): http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/7991/assistantartdirectornationalma.jpg http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/9031/assistantartdirector7il.jpg sorry if the screen captures are too big I'll turn them into URL's if they are. edit: ignore the locations of those job roles, I will be looking for positions in the UK then eventually when I stand a chance i'll be looking for jobs in america.