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dl4ste

macrumors newbie
Sep 1, 2009
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Hi,

I don't understand why somebody says the MD5 is $817F2D9CFB56885D6E8E3FD99855B691

and other says

it is $B8237D2CAE13654B9837213E55A40881 ???

Are there any differences between the up to date version and the retail version for $29?

Thanks
 

drlunanerd

macrumors 68000
Feb 14, 2004
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Hi,

I don't understand why somebody says the MD5 is $817F2D9CFB56885D6E8E3FD99855B691

and other says

it is $B8237D2CAE13654B9837213E55A40881 ???

Are there any differences between the up to date version and the retail version for $29?

Thanks

Yes, the Retail and Up-To-Date DVDs are different. The latter has an installation checker that means it will only install if it detects a current installation of Leopard or Snow Leopard.

This is how Apple have done it in the past with the Tiger and Leopard Up-To-Date discs, so it's nothing new.
 

Snatch77

macrumors newbie
Aug 18, 2008
8
0
Yes, the Retail and Up-To-Date DVDs are different. The latter has an installation checker that means it will only install if it detects a current installation of Leopard or Snow Leopard.

This is how Apple have done it in the past with the Tiger and Leopard Up-To-Date discs, so it's nothing new.

So, to clarify:

Up-To-Date = Full Install?
Retail/$29 = Upgrade?
 

drlunanerd

macrumors 68000
Feb 14, 2004
1,698
178
So, to clarify:

Up-To-Date = Full Install?
Retail/$29 = Upgrade?

No.

Up-To-Date = Upgrade installer. You CAN however do a full Erase & Install but NOT on a blank drive.
Retail $29 - Full installer, no restrictions.
 

Chris.Thomson

macrumors member
Aug 28, 2007
84
0
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
No.

Up-To-Date = Upgrade installer. You CAN however do a full Erase & Install but NOT on a blank drive.
Retail $29 - Full installer, no restrictions.

I can't believe that Apple did this. If anything, they should've put the upgrade installer on the $29 version, since all UTD orders have already provided a serial number of a new Mac that certainly has Leopard pre-installed on it.
 

Snatch77

macrumors newbie
Aug 18, 2008
8
0
No.

Up-To-Date = Upgrade installer. You CAN however do a full Erase & Install but NOT on a blank drive.
Retail $29 - Full installer, no restrictions.

Sorry for the confusion. Apple says the $29 is to upgrade your existing Leopard.

Thanks for the details!
 

MikhailT

macrumors 601
Nov 12, 2007
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I can't believe that Apple did this. If anything, they should've put the upgrade installer on the $29 version, since all UTD orders have already provided a serial number of a new Mac that certainly has Leopard pre-installed on it.

I don't understand what you are complaining about?

You paid 10$ for your UTD disc. If you want full installer, you just had to pay 29$ for the full disk, there's no reason to get UTD disc instead.

Apple did a good thing making the 29$ a full disk. That's what Snow Leopard is worth, nothing more.
 

Yassin

macrumors newbie
Sep 2, 2009
2
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Stupid questions

ok here's my stupid questions
does all the snow leopard retail images have the same md5?
i mean is it one md5 for all the retail DVDs, or every dvd retail image has different md5?

second question, if it's one md5 for all the retail disk images, so does the 29$ upgrade disk and the mac box set disk and up-to-date disk have the same md5 or different md5?

can u please give me the md5 of the
29$ upgrade disk and the mac box set disk and the up-to-date disk

sorry for all of this stupid questions but i'll really appreciate if someone explains this to me :)
 

thfcpoole

macrumors newbie
Jul 4, 2007
16
0
London, UK
I got the Up-To-Date DVD (which had an 'upgrade' sticker on it).

I installed it on a fully fresh blank hard drive that I had just bought.
 

yomommanow

macrumors newbie
Sep 5, 2009
5
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any idea why Disk util and md5.app give diff values for same file? i'm guessing the $ in the disk util md5 is important. is there a way to convert between the 2.
 

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JP2009

macrumors newbie
Aug 30, 2009
2
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any idea why Disk util and md5.app give diff values for same file? i'm guessing the $ in the disk util md5 is important. is there a way to convert between the 2.

I also get different values when I use Disk Utility's UDIF-MD5 and Terminal's md5 command. I even get a third result when UDIF-MD5'ing only the mounted volume.

Using Disk Utility:

-MD5 on mounted volume:

(...) Checksumming “Mac OS X Install DVD” using UDIF-MD5
(...)
(...) Checksum of “Mac OS X Install DVD” completed.
MD5 $74DD53456C1CDDD70989CDA0FB9CF9B2

-MD5 on DMG image file:

(...) Checksumming “Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard (Mac Box Set Retail Disk).dmg” using UDIF-MD5
(...)
(...) Checksum of “Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard (Mac Box Set Retail Disk).dmg” completed.
MD5 $2D35C020B969DBD7E3CD78D9BB8AE221

Using Terminal:

-MD5 on DMG image file:

$ md5 /Volumes/(...)/Mac\ OS\ X\ v10.6\ Snow\ Leopard\ \(Mac\ Box\ Set\ Retail\ Disk\).dmg
MD5 (/Volumes/(...)/Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard (Mac Box Set Retail Disk).dmg) = c45aba09aa9f893debd739da453820e6
 

Sirc

macrumors newbie
Sep 9, 2009
12
1
My DVD also has an MD5 hash of $74DD53456C1CDDD70989CDA0FB9CF9B2 from Disk Utility.

What version is this if not the retail?
 

reefdog

macrumors newbie
Sep 13, 2009
1
0
My DVD also has an MD5 hash of $74DD53456C1CDDD70989CDA0FB9CF9B2 from Disk Utility.

What version is this if not the retail?

It realy doesn't matter the checksum of the image file (dmg, iso or img). Don't waste time to check that. Ofcourse all of the h-sl106.dmg will have the same checksum of 817F2D9CFB56885D6E8E3FD99855B691. It's obvious that some have used compression or others didnt so the checksum will be different. Therefor you need to check ONLY the mounted DVD Checksum!

I bet that h-sl106.dmg is not the FINAL RETAIL version as it appeared before the official launch of SL. Make sense?

I am not conviced that everyone who posted here have the real ordered DVD DISK of Snow Leopard. If someone has should make a video or something... as I have seen images used and reused from internet which were posted on other forums.

So start adding the Mounted or the DVD checksums. For instance the mounted checksum of h-sl106.dmg is (see attached)
 

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Sirc

macrumors newbie
Sep 9, 2009
12
1
I've been trying to get Disk Utility to do an MD5 check again on the disk but I seem to be running into issues now. Progress never get's past 1-2% and the laptop is making an abnormal drive noise when powering on.

I'll have to investigate further into that.
 

st7

macrumors newbie
Nov 4, 2009
1
0
Hello to all, I am new to this forum as well as to the mac os & I just bought snow leopard 10.6 to install on my PC(yes i don't have any mac right now but i was attracted to mac os after using hackintosh OS's for few days & decided to install Orginal SL on my PC & also a few bucks are saved for me as i got windows 7 ultimate 64-bit for free as i work in a Multi-National BPO which also deals with win 7 customer support service hence all our staff got an original win 7 dvd from MS & our management, otherwise I would have bought win 7), i saw this particular post unexpectedly 20 days back while searching for SL retailers in my place, i was very interested in all this discussion. So after I got my sl today I checked md5 for both mounted & unmounted images, but to my surprise I got same md5 values for both dmg images ($817F2D9CFB56885D6E8E3FD99855B691) as opposed to what 'Nightkrawler' said(md5 values differ for mounted & unmounted dmg's).

What is more confusing to me is that when I checked md5 SL dmg in terminal, it gave a complete different value (8bce5139afaaa5a8fcda213edf5202b1) and when I checked dvd's as suggested by 'reefdog' md5 i got ($FD619787FE90525ECE05ECBCFF651B92) which is same as 'reefdog' said. So what all these fuss about why do SL has different md5's for different dvd images. Is there any official(apple) source for the complete list of md5's of so far released SL dvd's, i am asking this because even the original win 7 dvd's don't have same md5 values ( i'm not saying every win 7 dvd has it's own md5) but different md5, we can get the list of the some of them, if u r a technet or msdn subscriber. So, is it the same case with apple SL 10.6.

A detailed & appropriate response would be appreciated.
 

kocoman

macrumors 6502
Dec 26, 2007
309
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Apple has created some "DMG Hell" when it comes to md5



There's TWO md5 options. very confusing when I didn't look carefully.

Does anyone have the md5 of the 10.6.2 retail/or upgrade disc? (not 10.6.0)

thanks
 

wildandyc

macrumors newbie
Mar 29, 2010
1
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Apple has created some "DMG Hell" when it comes to md5



There's TWO md5 options. very confusing when I didn't look carefully.

Does anyone have the md5 of the 10.6.2 retail/or upgrade disc? (not 10.6.0)

thanks

Perhaps its as follows :

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Do I have it right as $DAD3F6BE35157C378876AD5033DE8F028
 
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