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Also, with how thin the keyboard is they're most likely fitting more of the heavy hitting stuff on the other side as well. The iFixit non-TB version had space for more shielded RAM on the other side.
 
Thanks for the work today, fs454. After seeing that the TB version doesn't have upgradable SSD, I am glad I went with the base model.

Anytime - IMO it's not too big of a deal but I am certainly glad I went 1TB with this one.

I got slightly more daring and removed the shielding on where we thought the SSD was - those chips look like SSD guts to me. The other shields wouldn't budge as easily as this one did.
 

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Anytime - IMO it's not too big of a deal but I am certainly glad I went 1TB with this one.

I got slightly more daring and removed the shielding on where we thought the SSD was - those chips look like SSD guts to me. The other shields wouldn't budge as easily as this one did.

Thanks for the photos!!!

I can't believe with all the professional reviews coming out, nobody else bother to remove the bottom case and take some photos.
 
The way Apple is going these days proprietary or soldered seems to be the norm. Great way to make sure we have to spend 10 times the retail price for upgraded memory or an SSD. I guess 231 Billion cash on hand is not enough.
 
The way Apple is going these days proprietary or soldered seems to be the norm. Great way to make sure we have to spend 10 times the retail price for upgraded memory or an SSD. I guess 231 Billion cash on hand is not enough.


To be fair, Apple's SSD prices are pretty fair on these models. 1TB isn't absurdly priced and 2TB is pretty fair as well considering PCI-E SSDs of that capacity are $2000 right now and don't seem to come in standard form factors.

Also, 3000MB/sec read/write.
 
Generally, no. Data recovery won't be straightforward, but as long as the memory chips are fine it's doable. It's up to 3rd parties to figure out how to perform data recovery with custom equipment or donor boards. What I know for sure, is that data recovery will be more expensive.

Another concern would be data recovery from a failed rMBP that's under warranty. Would you prefer to recover your data and lose your warranty due to 3rd party intrusion? Or would you rather lose your data and have Apple replace fix (replace) your laptop?

No, thank you. I will stick to my old ways.

Either:

1. Put the SSD in another computer and boot from that computer.

or

2. Put the SSD in an enclosure and boot from a second computer.
 
It's under one of the silver PCB shields, but I'm not daring enough to start messing with those as it'll look like it was tampered with. I was expecting to be able to see the T1 / Touch Bar component area, but alas everything interesting is shielded with these models.

Going by the image below, shielding closes to CPU/GPU is most likely RAM and VRAM. Maybe T1 chip under the shielding closest to the top of the image and SSD components at the bottom near the fan?

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I'm mostly surprised about how small the batteries are in the compartments. iFixit will do a better job at illustrating this than I will, but those cells are really very small for the space given, like the iPad Pro 12.9" having massive gaps for "acoustic" requirements. Except here, there's nothing at all in the index-finger width space surrounding the corner cells and the trackpad cells.

The gaps are most likely for thermal reasons. Battery cells expand as they heat up so they probably need the extra room to prevent pressure buildup that could potentially damage the cells (and cause explosions).
 
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Does it look like those models with 2 TB SSD storage would have a second module up at the top of the photo, symmetrical to the module shown at the bottom?
 
The gaps are most likely for thermal reasons. Battery cells expand as they heat up so they probably need the extra room to prevent pressure buildup that could potentially damage the cells (and cause explosions).

The previously model doesn't have huge gaps like that.

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Damn, I'm glad I went for the 1TB option.

I hope someone comes out with compact fast usb-c storage soon, I'd love to have a set of thumb drives that were performant enough to keep a set of Win/linux VMs for devwork on. If I had that on a keyring I'll be fine with 1TB long term.
 
Damn, I'm glad I went for the 1TB option.

I hope someone comes out with compact fast usb-c storage soon, I'd love to have a set of thumb drives that were performant enough to keep a set of Win/linux VMs for devwork on. If I had that on a keyring I'll be fine with 1TB long term.

Try the Samsung T3. 256GB, 500GB, 1TB, and 2TB SSDs. USB-C connector supporting 3.1. About the size of 2 thumb drives. I see 400-500 MB/sec on my 2015 15 rMBP. I imagine they will go at least this fast on the new MBP.
 
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Hahaha, I've always wanted to but can rarely get my hands on things fast enough - and have no idea where to begin in tech journalism. Glad to be able to help solve the remaining mysteries of these new notebooks!
You'll get a sub from me if you ever start a review website/channel. Do let me know!
 
Anytime - IMO it's not too big of a deal but I am certainly glad I went 1TB with this one.

I got slightly more daring and removed the shielding on where we thought the SSD was - those chips look like SSD guts to me. The other shields wouldn't budge as easily as this one did.
Based on the label, may Samsung V-NAND chip some as 850Pro
 
The real issue here for me is that if I am using this 1TB SSD for 4K capturing/editing rather than an external drive ...(Yes, I know external is what I SHOULD do) When the SSD wears out, the laptop is junk. What am I supposed to do?

Mine just hit "preparing for shipment" status so I guess I'll have to see when it comes... We know nothing about what type of SSD it is? How many writes it can handle?

Ordered: 2.9GHz, 16GB, R460, 1TB

With the low amount of RAM I have to assume they are using the SSD a ton for caching.

The major reason I love MacBook Pro's is because they last forever. I'm just now upgrading from a Late 2011 17" MBP....
 
Let's see who can actually tap into the bandwidth the SSD provides. Run an I/O meter while working on your most intense workflow and see if you can get anywhere near it. Unzipping or copying large files doesn't count.

For perspective, RED's best cameras capture to SATA2 mags - less than 300MB/s.
 
The real issue here for me is that if I am using this 1TB SSD for 4K capturing/editing rather than an external drive ...(Yes, I know external is what I SHOULD do) When the SSD wears out, the laptop is junk. What am I supposed to do?

Mine just hit "preparing for shipment" status so I guess I'll have to see when it comes... We know nothing about what type of SSD it is? How many writes it can handle?

Ordered: 2.9GHz, 16GB, R460, 1TB

With the low amount of RAM I have to assume they are using the SSD a ton for caching.

The major reason I love MacBook Pro's is because they last forever. I'm just now upgrading from a Late 2011 17" MBP....

Throw it away and get a new one. That's Apple's philosophy.
 
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You should be able to replace your SSD at Apple's service centres. If I were you, I'd call them as ask about their repair prices and procedures. Even if it means getting a new board altogether, you should be paying the SSD price only if that's the component that failed.
 
You should be able to replace your SSD at Apple's service centres. If I were you, I'd call them as ask about their repair prices and procedures. Even if it means getting a new board altogether, you should be paying the SSD price only if that's the component that failed.

Or the flat-rate out-of-warranty repair price (last time I went in, ~$300). You lose if the repair is cheaper, but WIN BIG if it would have cost more. I've had logic boards replaced for that flat rate, and last time around, when parts became NLA for my 17", Apple sold me a refurb 2013 retina 15" for the flat-rate repair price. Note that I had purchased AppleCare on the 17" (and I purchased it for this refurb, too).

Yes, the trend toward soldered-in components is annoying as hell--I'd gladly have an extra mm or two of thickness for replaceable RAM and for an M.2 SSD (and decent keyboard travel, and better battery life); however, Apple has taken very, very good care of me on both warranty and out-of-warranty repairs.
 
if these pics are real, i have some questions. where's screws, which are tightening up the heatsink to cpu and videochip? also, where's the power and data battery cable to logic board?
 
On the opposite side

I think it's below the black sticker in the middle

no-no-no. i'm apple service macintosh technician, and i exactly know, how the power and logic cables looks like in mbpr.
and it can't be, that screws which tighten heatsink to crystals are located from another side of the board.
 
no-no-no. i'm apple service macintosh technician, and i exactly know, how the power and logic cables looks like in mbpr.
and it can't be, that screws which tighten heatsink to crystals are located from another side of the board.
Then why do you ask?
 
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