Does this device exist?

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  1. JonYo macrumors newbie

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    Hey there folks -

    Does somethiing like this exist? I want a device that has an SD analog cable-TV input, a TV tuner inside to tune in channels, and analog composite output for video and audio (the standard 3 RCA output jacks). So, it's basically a TV without a screen. However I'd like to control it from my Mac somehow. I don't want a capture device, as I want analog video output to go elsewhere, not my Mac. Not sure how the computer's control/connection should work. Maybe USB or whatever, and something scriptable or usable in some other hands-off sort of way for controling it, rather than only a hands-on generic CLI or GUI. Just brainstorming some semi-ridiculous DIY ideas...
     
  2. Josias macrumors 68000

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    I don't know if that exists, but I would just buy a 75$ TV (you can get a 14" crap TV for that:p ) and use that. You could always hook it up to the computer. Try Apple Store under "Video Devices". They might have something.
     
  3. JonYo thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well, but then how...

    Well, sure, a cheapy TV might have an RCA output and a coax input, but the key here is to be able to control the tuner (IE- change channels) via the computer somehow. This isn't going to be something I'll be doing while I'm sitting there, I'm trying to make an automated sort of thing.

    - JonYo
     
  4. Josias macrumors 68000

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    Many DVD players have such connections, and I guess you could do it with that. I got a 30$ DVD player (code-free), and it has both coax and all this stuff. Not a tuner though, but you could find that.
     
  5. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus

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    You might find a VCR with all those connections (or at least most of them). All VCRs have a built in tuner. You might have to find some SCART-RCA converters. Don't know about the computer control, though... ;)
     
  6. Madmic23 macrumors 6502a

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    Schedule

    Are you using a cable or satellite box of any sort? I think even on some TVs that have a channel guide, you can program it to change the channel at a certain time. Would that do what you want?
     
  7. JonYo thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Re: your replies

    I appreciate the replies, but I guess I should be more clear and say that the computer control of the device is the most important part. I want a device that can change the channel on the tuner in an automated fashion. A built in timer won't work, it's gotta be random access abilty to have the computer change the channel at any time. I know this probably sounds weird, but it's for some weird and sorta ridiculous DIY ideas I have...

    - JonYo
     
  8. Mitthrawnuruodo Moderator emeritus

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    Then I think an Eye TV from Elgato might be your thing...
     
  9. JonYo thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Re: Elgato's EyeTV stuff

    Nope, everything from Elgato has no output other than into the computer. I need composite analog video and analog audio output from the unit, not video/audio into the computer itself. The need for those outputs is why I haven't yet found any existing video capture devices that'll work for my specific application, aside from the fact that they would be a big waste of money, spending THAT much on a device that with all the great vdeo capture capabilites that I wouldn't use, and just use it as essentially a computer-controlled TV tuner.

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  10. blackfox macrumors 65816

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    The best I can think of is an Elgato product and a scan converter. My scan converter has VGA passthrough, composite and s-video out.

    With the two, you might approximate what you are looking for. Basically, you'd set up your TV as your external/second monitor while converting the signal to analog.
     
  11. portent macrumors 6502a

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    You could probably get what you want from an AMX or Crestron control system. They're popular in universities (to control multimedia equipment) and businesses (for use in conference rooms) and some people have them at home (for home theater automation)

    Usually, they have a programmable touch-screen panel, but they can often be configured to use a web interface. If you throw enough money at an authorized dealer, you can usually get whatever you need.

    http://amx.com/
    http://www.crestron.com/
    Oh, and did I mention they were ridiculously expensive?
     
  12. balamw Moderator

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    Even though you are not looking for a capture device, how about a standalone TiVo? You can probably find a good deal on a used one at eBay and hack it appropriately to be able to control it over Ethernet. It'll have the cable in, video out you desire.

    B
     
  13. Play Ultimate macrumors 6502

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    Check out Radio Shack. Don't they have everything?
     
  14. mcmillan macrumors 6502

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    I would suggest using EyeTV and then mirroring the image from your computer to a TV (or where you want to send the image). Just use one of Apple's adpaters.
     
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  16. mustard macrumors 6502a

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    I think...

    You can accomplish what you are looking to due with any sort of A/V source (reciver, tv, dvd player) with the Philips iPronto.

    It isn't controlled by a computer but be a dedicated tablet/palm device.

    Maybe that will work?:confused:
     
  17. idea_hamster macrumors 65816

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    You might look into the Formac Studio TRV.

    I think that the general idea of it is to watch the TV signal on your Mac, but the thing has so many in- and output jacks, I have a tough time believing that you couldn't somehow set it up to be controlled from your Mac and output somewhere else too.

    Not sure, but it could be an option....
     

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