15 pro was average thoughSo far, I'm ending the day on the Air with the same or higher battery % as my 15 Pro.
15 pro was average thoughSo far, I'm ending the day on the Air with the same or higher battery % as my 15 Pro.
15 pro was average though
I have a mini 7 and 16 pro, just pointing out going back to a 15 pro battery in 2025 is average.The phone usually still has 40+% at the end of the day even with charging capped to 90%. That's good enough for me.
The Plus/Pro Max iPhones are too big and heavy for my liking. Even if those have better battery life, I wouldn't want to use them anyway.
I already carry a cellular iPad mini when I want a larger display on the go and okay with using the device 2-handed.
I have a mini 7 and 16 pro, just pointing out going back to a 15 pro battery in 2025 is average.
My 16 pro is excellent = to that would be ok.
I wouldn't be spending $1800AUD to go backwards.
As someone else said, it’s a different sensor in the Pros. The Air and the base 17 share the same sensor. Does it matter? Not much, judging by comparisons and reviews I’ve seen.
With that mind set regarding size of phone then move $100 up for the smaller pro instead of $200 down for the regular 17 because you gain so much and gain the same screen size as the base 17. Go for the higher ram, bigger battery, and even the vapor cooling chamberThe phone usually still has 40+% at the end of the day even with charging capped to 90%. That's good enough for me.
The Plus/Pro Max iPhones are too big and heavy for my liking. Even if those have better battery life, I wouldn't want to use them anyway.
I already carry a cellular iPad mini when I want a larger display on the go and okay with using the device 2-handed.
P.S. I'm probably returning the Air for the regular 17. Battery life isn't an issue but the phone is still too big for my liking.
Same here with my wife’s 16 Pro. I am averaging just under 9 hours screen time with 94-96% battery usage. On wifi for most of the day and usage skews to Safari (50%ish) and social apps with a bit of YouTube. No gaming. My wife watches a lot more video content than I do. I do a small top up charge late afternoon as I try to avoid the battery going below 20%. I notice the battery usage is a bit higher on days I’m out more on 5G. I’m in between clients at the moment plus the “new phone” so my usage is higher than normal, but the battery has exceeded my expectations and is vastly better than my 14PM was.My Air is currently beating my wife’s 16 Pro as far as battery life goes. Not a perfect comparison, given obviously different people means different apps on device and different usage patterns (not to mention her battery isn’t brand new), but she has to charge in the middle of the day and I don’t.
With that mind set regarding size of phone then move $100 up for the smaller pro instead of $200 down for the regular 17 because you gain so much and gain the same screen size as the base 17. Go for the higher ram, bigger battery, and even the vapor cooling chamber
So you’re going to carry 2 phones?Already have the 17 Pro. Too heavy as a daily driver. Note, I'm coming from a 144g SE3.
So you’re going to carry 2 phones?
The 16e has one, and so did every non-Pro iPhone since the 11. The incredibly light 12 with 164g has one. Stop being silly.Yeah, I miss carrying around a 4 pound brick just to get an ultra wide shot lolol.
Wish my 16e came with an ultrawide.The 16e has one, and so did every non-Pro iPhone since the 11. The incredibly light 12 with 164g has one. Stop being silly.
I’ve just had two family events where I couldn’t have gotten the shots I did, whole family and all, without the ultra wide camera.
Literal memories that couldn’t have been saved otherwise.
You do you though, if you never happen to need an ultra wide, weird, but good on you.
The 16e has one, and so did every non-Pro iPhone since the 11. The incredibly light 12 with 164g has one. Stop being silly.
I’ve just had two family events where I couldn’t have gotten the shots I did, whole family and all, without the ultra wide camera.
Literal memories that couldn’t have been saved otherwise.
You do you though, if you never happen to need an ultra wide, weird, but good on you.
I stand corrected. The 16e does not have an ultra wide fusion camera. The iPhone 17 does.Wish my 16e came with an ultrawide.
i am using the Air as my main phone.There’s a lot of conflicting info floating around about the Air. I’m definitely sceptical of Apple’s battery claims, especially since they’re based on newer efficiency features that don’t reflect typical usage. That said, I don’t think the Air’s battery is awful either; it’d likely get me through half the time without needing a battery pack. My concern is more long-term; I suspect that a year from now, battery life could become a serious issue.
Where can you find that information?Look at the metadata for the past few months of your photos and see how much you’re actually using the ultrawide and telephoto. I found I was using the main Fusion camera 95+% of the time, so went with the Air. I’ve been very happy with the switch after many years of lugging around a Pro Max.
EDIT: I see you just posted your usage numbers above.
Not sure if/how you can do it directly from your iPhone, but I used my MacBook. From the photos app I created a smart album and filtered by the lens used. I edited the filter each time to see the photos taken with Main, Ultrawide, and Telephoto lenses. I used that to get the numbers and also to gauge the type and quality of shots I took with each (and if I can settle for less or live without them).Where can you find that information?
You're an adult, with your own hard earned money. Buy the phone you want. End of story.I bought the 17 Pro after having the Pro Max every year since the 12. I wanted a more one hand friendly device in weight and size. I have enjoyed it so far, but my mind keeps going back to the Air. It is so beautiful. I held one briefly in store and it was enjoyable, but I was hesitant to change my decision and continued with picking up the Pro. I've had it for a week, but I still find myself thinking about the Air, I have even dreamt about it three times since pre-order (no lie).
The speaker, the battery, the potential heat issues are not a concern for me. It really comes down to no ultrawide and wondering if it's just a hair too big for one hand. But, do those things really matter? Am I going to continue to have FOMO until next September when I upgrade again?
What to do, what to do. My wife says it's just FOMO and to just settle in with the Pro. Especially since I am the family's designated photographer when we have events or go on trips. Maybe I just skip the Air this year and hope the next version has an ultrawide or upgraded camera system.
On my Mac I created a Smart album, looks like thisWhere can you find that information?
As someone else said, it’s a different sensor in the Pros. The Air and the base 17 share the same sensor. Does it matter? Not much, judging by comparisons and reviews I’ve seen.
I just want to say how incredibly profound and important I found this reply.You're an adult, with your own hard earned money. Buy the phone you want. End of story.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. 😅I just want to say how incredibly profound and important I found this reply.
No one here is trying to rationalize their purchase to other people. They're trying to decide which phone is best for them. That's why saying "buy the phone you want" is not helpful or relevant to this discussion.I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. 😅
But in all seriousness, a lot of people put a lot of time and energy into rationalizing their purchases when at the end of the day you're just spending your own money that you earned yourself. If you want to spend it on something you shouldn't have to justify it.
But he clearly wants the Air. He's literally dreaming about it. It sounded to me like he's trying to convince himself that switching to the Air is justified. Sorry if I misread.No one here is trying to rationalize their purchase to other people. They're trying to decide which phone is best for them. That's why saying "buy the phone you want" is not helpful or relevant to this discussion.