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kolax

macrumors G3
Mar 20, 2007
9,181
115
Good intentions are nice.

Unfortunately, they aren't always smart.

The salesperson said it didn't "make much of a difference" if they were authorized.

Uh yeah . . . it does.

Think the sales person meant to the customer, it doesn't make a difference if they bought it from an authorised store or not. Well, as long as they aren't stolen goods..

But there has to be something else going on - how do they get their goods, and how are they making profit - enough profit to employee so many people.
 

liphonearth

macrumors newbie
Jan 6, 2010
29
1
If Apple sues and wins, the employees will only face short 5-10 year prison sentences.. the upper management/owners, executed.

Other than that, it doesn't make that big of a difference..
 

ctdonath

macrumors 68000
Mar 11, 2009
1,592
629
Quality fakes can be respectable. I'm reminded that there are fakes of great paintings which are so good that they have a devoted following, and even suffer "fakes of fakes".
 

wikus

macrumors 68000
Jun 1, 2011
1,795
2
Planet earth.
If Apple sues and wins, the employees will only face short 5-10 year prison sentences.. the upper management/owners, executed.

Other than that, it doesn't make that big of a difference..

You can bet your ass Apple would sue, its their favourite hobby on weekends. But not in China.
 

*LTD*

macrumors G4
Feb 5, 2009
10,703
1
Canada
Quality fakes can be respectable. I'm reminded that there are fakes of great paintings which are so good that they have a devoted following, and even suffer "fakes of fakes".

It makes no difference. A counterfeit is a counterfeit.

Who is this fake apple store accountable to? How does Apple ensure that their "good intentions" remain just that, and how does Apple go about enforcing this store's self-imposed values?

Think of Psystar.
 

indiekiduk

macrumors 6502
Jul 26, 2005
476
405
Glasgow, Scotland
It makes no difference. A counterfeit is a counterfeit.

Who is this fake apple store accountable to? How does Apple ensure that their "good intentions" remain just that, and how does Apple go about enforcing this store's self-imposed values?

Think of Psystar.

all resellers (like this one) need to be approved, see here
http://channelprograms.apple.com/channel/

could you quit using the word fake?
 

liphonearth

macrumors newbie
Jan 6, 2010
29
1
You can bet your ass Apple would sue, its their favourite hobby on weekends. But not in China.

Not true. 5-6 years back a man was convicted of copying DVDs and reselling bootleg copies of Hollywood movies.

He was executed.. Don't embarrass the party.

They may look the other way, but not when it comes to companies with money.
 

wikus

macrumors 68000
Jun 1, 2011
1,795
2
Planet earth.
Not true. 5-6 years back a man was convicted of copying DVDs and reselling bootleg copies of Hollywood movies.

He was executed.. Don't embarrass the party.

They may look the other way, but not when it comes to companies with money.

Oh, well then Apple is going to have a field day with this one.
 

Shrink

macrumors G3
Feb 26, 2011
8,929
1,727
New England, USA
The same as Apples. Warranty is relative to the serial on the product, NOT the store it was sold from.

Assuming these a genuine Apple products, are the serial numbers registered somewhere in the Apple system?

If they are genuine, but ripped off, would they have legitimate serial numbers?

Wouldn't this all effect the warrantee?
 

throttlemeister

macrumors 6502a
Mar 31, 2009
550
63
Netherlands
(Of course, we have to clear up corruption, over-regulation and over-taxation over here in the west first before that will happen.)
Of course crazy salary demands, unions and strike mentality have nothing with it. Nor the consumer mentality demanding cheaper, cheaper cheaper so they can mindlessly consume more, more, more. Let's just blame the government instead, easier than looking in the mirror...
 

Prodo123

macrumors 68020
Nov 18, 2010
2,326
10
These stores actually look darn friggin close to the actual thing. If Apple doesn't shut it down, then Apple will probably make those stores official, which would be extremely cool.
 

bamf

macrumors 6502
Feb 14, 2008
413
0
Assuming these a genuine Apple products, are the serial numbers registered somewhere in the Apple system?

If they are genuine, but ripped off, would they have legitimate serial numbers?

Wouldn't this all effect the warrantee?

Exactly. That's what I was thinking as well. They could be "genuine" but not in Apple's systems.
 

jlgolson

Contributing Editor
Jun 2, 2011
383
8
Durango, CO
In China?
You can bet your ass Apple would sue, its their favourite hobby on weekends. But not in China.
Exactly. This is the land where +90% of software is pirated. Microsoft had to price Windows and Office for pennies on the dollar in order to make any headway at all.

Apple may eventually shut these folks down, but it's not like it is in the States.

It's totally, entirely different.

It is very unlikely that they are "fake" products, or pulled off the Foxconn product line. More likely they are acquired from US or Hong Kong Apple Stores via reseller activity, or bought direct from distributors.

As for warrantees, Apple could say they weren't purchased through official channels, but if they're legitimate products, Apple will not leave their customers out to dry. Apple gets paid either way. That's the beauty of it.
 

majortom1981

macrumors member
Sep 8, 2010
43
0
hmm

The product is either direct from the factory or bought from one of the 2 actual apple stores in the country and resold at a higher price.
 
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