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GSPice

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Excellent. Finally some real life testing, not just benchmark warriors like we've seen all summer. :D
 

Luftwaffles

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Kansas City, MO
I got my new 2.0/16GB/256GB/Iris Pro 15" today.

EVE Online on low settings outside Jita 4-4 (Busiest location in the game) hovered between 100-200fps. Medium settings stayed around the 60-90fps range.

Granted, I'll be running all my games on low settings anyway because I hate choppy gameplay, but these numbers are very promising to me. Let these benchmarks forever be a lesson to the "You can't game on iGPUs" crowd that seems to have taken over this forum in the last week. :D

I'm off to download Diablo III and SC2.
 

Freyqq

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Dec 13, 2004
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For reference:

750M
Starcraft 2
High Textures, High Quality
1920x1200 = 60 FPS
 

actuallyinaus

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Feb 13, 2013
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Updated: Guild Wars 2

Great work. Thank you for the tip on setresx. I'm hoping this gives me a little boost in Diablo 3. It is a bit disappointing to see the gap between bootcamp and osx. I don't game very much so I'll probably just suffer through the osx performance, but a little part of me will always know there was a 10-20% boost to be had in bootcamp.

the performance gain (along with directx only games) is the only reason i use windows

I have some game requests...
Could you test Diablo III, Skyrim, Borderlands 2, and Guild Wars 2?

Guild Wars 2 is done, see first post. Diablo 3 coming soon.
 

UBS28

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Oct 2, 2012
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According to your test and a few games that I played:

Starcraft 2:
Intel Iris Pro (Windows 8) High textures, High settings, 2880 x 1800.16fps
750m 2gb (Mac 10.9) High textures, High settings, 2880 x 1800. 30fps

Guild Wars 2:
Intel Iris Pro (Windows 8) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 12fps
750m 2gb (Mac 10.9) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 23fps

Seems like a pretty big difference despite the 750m not being run on Windows.
 

actuallyinaus

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Feb 13, 2013
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UPDATED: Diablo 3

Maybe useful to do this test against Crysis Warhead (which seems to be on your list).

Establish a baseline against the Anandtech 5200 test: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested/12

Now I can wish for someone to do the same tests with the 13" Iris/5100.

i'll install and try crysis warhead, that will be interesting. anandtech were using a 4950HQ (1.3Ghz iris pro), the base 15" is a 4750HQ (1.2Ghz iris pro), which will help in cpu games and has 100mhz extra iris pro power

I have some game requests...
Could you test Diablo III, Skyrim, Borderlands 2, and Guild Wars 2?

diablo 3 done
skyrim coming soon

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According to your test and a few games that I played:

Starcraft 2:
Intel Iris Pro (Windows 8) High textures, High settings, 2880 x 1800.16fps
750m 2gb (Mac 10.9) High textures, High settings, 2880 x 1800. 30fps

Guild Wars 2:
Intel Iris Pro (Windows 8) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 12fps
750m 2gb (Mac 10.9) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 23fps

Seems like a pretty big difference despite the 750m not being run on Windows.

keep in mind: for that guild wars test i was looking at water and fire and smoke, when i looked around on land i got: 2880x1800 - Best Appearance (no water, no fire, no smoke) 25fps image so my benches are definitely the worst case (though i don't know what you were looking at, for all i know you went to the same spot and you are completely valid. i'm just noting it's easy to bump up the numbers)

yep, the 750M is fantastic and i expect it to win out in most cases (if not all) but the fact that an igpu can perform so well is amazing, and it might perform well enough for certain people, especially due to the $600+ difference

however there are situations where the iris can hold it's own due to increased total memory bandwidth, for example from anandtech: the iris pro drops 10 frames, but the 650m drops 30 frames
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6993/55297.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6993/55298.png
 
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kahuna0k

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Jul 25, 2012
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Diablo 3 images

Lowest = (all settings low, off shadows, off clutter, low fx option)

(pic00) 2880x1800 - High FXAA 10fps
(pic01) 2880x1800 - High noAA 11fps
(pic02) 2880x1800 - Low 14fps
(pic03) 2880x1800 - Lowest 19fps

(pic04) 1920x1200 - High FXAA 19fps
(pic05) 1920x1200 - Low 31fps
(pic06) 1920x1200 - Lowest 45fps

(pic07) 1680x1050 - High FXAA 22fps
(pic08) 1680x1050 - Low 43fps
(pic09) 1680x1050 - Lowest 56fps

(pic10) 1440x900 - High FXAA 26fps
(pic12) 1440x900 - Low 50fps
(pic13) 1440x900 - Lowest 74fps

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Ouch I get at least double this fps in the exact same location with the 650M of mid-2012 rMBP (for 2880x1800 High FXAA I get 27fps). I was just waiting for Diablo being almost playable (with the 650M is not totally playable under lots of spells and fire and everything), it seems that Intel is still not there. They need to move faster, at this pace in 2014 we will be able to play 2012 games.
 

Narcaz

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Jul 18, 2013
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Thank you so much actuallyinaus. Your benchmarks eliminated the base 2.0/8/256 15'' option for me. I keep looking for a cheap refurbished model or spend the extra 600€.

The Grid 2 benchmark from anandtech is not a general phenomenon, because Codemasters implemented „Instant Access“ und „Pixel Synchronization" (Special memory features beside Direct X 11.1) for Intel.
 

dusk007

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Dec 5, 2009
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According to your test and a few games that I played:

Starcraft 2:
Intel Iris Pro (Windows 8) High textures, High settings, 2880 x 1800.16fps
750m 2gb (Mac 10.9) High textures, High settings, 2880 x 1800. 30fps

Guild Wars 2:
Intel Iris Pro (Windows 8) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 12fps
750m 2gb (Mac 10.9) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 23fps

Seems like a pretty big difference despite the 750m not being run on Windows.
Intel doesn't do so well on higher resolutions. It is probably not just the memory bandwidth but also that the GPU is optimized for the kind of quality it can do. Probably less ROP performance and some other things. There is also much less geometry performance than nvidia but you don't notice that with reasonable settings.
Intel won't throw any number of die space at the problem and they obviously optimize for the workload that it reasonably can handle. If you push too far the difference gets big. You can see the same thing on Desktop cards were AMD pulls quite a bit ahead on the highest resolutions and looses on lower.
You have to find settings that are playable on both cards to properly assess performance.

And again Starcraft depends a lot on the CPU. 30fps in probably some look at your own base and a couple workers is not playable. It will crush fps once there is some action and in that game you just cannot micro if the fps are too low, which incidentally happens just when there is action and you need to micro.
Besides I think past medium quality with high textures there is very little gain in picture quality in this game. Maybe physics is fun but that depends on the CPU in that game afaik.
 

luffytubby

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Jan 22, 2008
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Guild Wars 2:
Intel Iris Pro (Windows 8) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 12fps
750m 2gb (Mac 10.9) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 23fps

Seems like a pretty big difference despite the 750m not being run on Windows.

imaging Guild Wars at that resolutiono_O


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:O That's impressive. I guess you really see 750m with its 2gig of GDDR5 at work here.
 

ToeJamathon

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Jun 1, 2010
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Awesome post, actuallyinaus! I'd love to see League of Legends get the same treatment as your DOTA2 tests please? :D
 

Count Blah

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Jan 6, 2004
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According to your test and a few games that I played:

Starcraft 2:
Intel Iris Pro (Windows 8) High textures, High settings, 2880 x 1800.16fps
750m 2gb (Mac 10.9) High textures, High settings, 2880 x 1800. 30fps

Guild Wars 2:
Intel Iris Pro (Windows 8) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 12fps
750m 2gb (Mac 10.9) 2880x1800 - Best Appearance 23fps

Seems like a pretty big difference despite the 750m not being run on Windows.
From my investigations, the higher the resolution the greater the disparity between Iris Pro and dGPU will be. Lower settings evens the playing field - so to speak.
 

kaellar

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Nov 12, 2012
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Were D3 tests done under Windows? If so, I don't get it, since those numbers are roughly half of what they should be, according to notebookcheck page for IrisPro.
 
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