Google Covering Defense Costs and Damage Awards for Four Patents in Apple/Samsung Case

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  1. macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Google is covering lawyer fees and potential damage awards with regards to four patents in the ongoing Apple/Samsung patent case, according to a report from Re/code, quoting deposition testimony from a Google attorney that Apple introduced in court today.

    Google's contractual obligations to defend Samsung relate to a "Mobile Application Distribution Agreement" between the two companies related to the distribution of Google applications, including Gmail on Samsung's Android devices. Samsung called several Google employees as witnesses as part of its defense.

    The case between Apple and Samsung is seen by many as a proxy for the larger battle between Google and Apple over the company's respective mobile operating systems.

    Yesterday, Samsung argued that, if it lost at trial, it would only owe Apple $40 million in damages, substantially less than the $2 billion that Apple says it is owed for infringement of five of its patents.

    Article Link: Google Covering Defense Costs and Damage Awards for Four Patents in Apple/Samsung Case
  2. macrumors 68040


    Jun 26, 2009
    Burpelson AFB
    Google really needs Samsung to stay in the fold :eek:
  3. macrumors 6502

    Jan 26, 2006
    SLC, Utah
    Lawyer fees AND potential damages? Didn't Google send Samsung a memo telling them they were copying Apple too closely? It seems like this isn't an Android problem but more of a Samsung problem.
  4. macrumors 68000


    Aug 15, 2011
    Poor Google!
  5. macrumors 6502a


    Jan 18, 2010
    Google and Samsung. Pathetic.
  6. macrumors 603


    Jul 27, 2009
    Premià de Mar
    The claims Google will cover are related to Android, are not part of Samsung implementation
  7. macrumors member

    Jan 8, 2008

    It's an open secret that Samsung is trying to decrease its dependence on Google Android (as distinct from forked Android/Android AOSP) – they'd be idiots not to do so. If they were smart, they'd play up the potential damages for the Google-covered patents and try to maximize the payout that Google would have to make.

    The bottom line is that Samsung is the only Android OEM making big profits. Thus anything that raises the cost of Google Android hurts their competitors much more than it hurts them, because only Samsung can afford any margin hits. In the long run, it would protect their Android market share and make it that much easier for them to fork Android or go with Tizen.
  8. macrumors 65816


    Mar 5, 2003
    Seattle, WA
    Google is one of the most anti-American tech companies I can think of.
  9. macrumors 603


    Oct 21, 2008
    Haha haha haha haha seriously? A major AMERICAN corporation is totally Anti American.... hahaha

    And Apple is one of the most anti consumer companies around. What with its way to force you to upgrade at maximum cost.
  10. macrumors demi-god


    Jun 9, 2007
    Device engineer 30+ yrs, touchscreens 24+.
    This trial has nothing to do with design choices like rounded icons, which is the kind of thing that Google tried to get Samsung to avoid.

    This trial is about internal unseen code methods, written by Google.

    It's common for the source of such methods to protect their licensees. Microsoft publicly announced that they would defend anyone licensing their Windows phone code, for example.
  11. macrumors 65816

    May 13, 2010
    Uhh, many American corporations are "anti-American"...Apple isn't exactly pro-American either but they're at least trying to bring work back to the US.

    No major PC manufacturer out there gives you cheap upgrades, not a single one.


    In Microsoft's case, they do not allow the OEM's to mess around with the OS the way Android did/does.
  12. macrumors 6502

    Oct 7, 2007
    That is so 100% true.
  13. macrumors 6502a

    Mar 6, 2009
    Oh snap! It just got real–er.
  14. macrumors 68000

    Jun 24, 2010
    Did you use to confirm that?
  15. macrumors G5

    Jun 22, 2009
    Ignorance is bliss

  16. macrumors 6502a

    Feb 23, 2012
  17. macrumors G5

    Jun 22, 2009
    You need not respond to him. He wears Apple-rose-colored-glasses.
  18. macrumors 65816


    Oct 29, 2011
    Some of comments here really amaze me. How can people be so ignorant?
  19. macrumors regular

    Mar 27, 2004
    Eastern USA
    Google'll find it behind the couch.
  20. macrumors regular

    Mar 26, 2010
    IIRC, Apple wanted Sun to indemnify their use of ZFS. Sun said, "no deal" and Apple dropped it entirely after years of effort.

    I don't think this situation is unusual. If corporation A licenses something from corporation B, some kind of protection against this very type of lawsuit gives corporation A some reasonable assurances.
  21. macrumors 603


    Oct 21, 2008

    Ah, I see, you are talking about jobs, well that's the capitalist world you live in buddy, they move all manufacturing to the cheapest place on the planet, then charge you the consumer maximum mark ups, result is massive profit, capitalism at it's very best.

    Thankfully, for the whole, where Macs are made they are made pretty well, although I would like a Mac Pro and think it would be nice to have something assembled in America, and I'm British!

    As for the upgrades, Apple are the only ones that drop support for your Mac in OSX, thus if you want the latest version you have to upgrade, and Macs aren't cheap. Not to mention iOS devices which are even worst as you'll need to run the latest iOS eventually to get the apps you want.
    Upgrading PC's are a lot cheaper.
  22. macrumors 68000

    Mar 5, 2012
    Central California
    Wow you must be republican lol
  23. macrumors 68000

    Jun 24, 2010
    People here are so anti-Samsung they never caught the fact that Apple was suing Samsung to attack Google indirectly. Now that Google has stepped up to the plate we now have Google haters in the house. And because Google is covering 4 out of the 5 patents I'm not sure if people can continue to call Samsung copycats. I see this war between Apple and Google and that will spoil the relationship.
    So I guess now people here are going to close down their Gmail accounts, not use Google maps, avoid YouTube and not visit The hate runs deep here so I wouldn't be surprised.
  24. macrumors demi-god


    Jun 9, 2007
    Device engineer 30+ yrs, touchscreens 24+.
    The amount or topic of the code is immaterial.

    Just as Microsoft would only defend code they licensed, Google is only defending code that they wrote themselves.
  25. macrumors 6502

    Oct 7, 2007
    Why bother with Google to search when duckduckgo does it just fine. :)

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