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gweedo

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SpiderOak?

Given the privacy & use concerns shared here, has anyone tried SpiderOak? How does it's terms of service & actual capabilities stack up against google and dropbox?
 

Razeus

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Jul 11, 2008
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I have 24gb of free storage on Dropbox. That's not the normal amount and I agree they have to up it a bit and improve the service thanks to the competition... And maybe Apple will see that they need to up iCloud's ante and what it's capable of as well.

But outta that amount I only have 1.3% in use. I have 1Password synced between my computers with it but what else should I be doing? I just can't seem to use all that space.

I don't even use my Documents folder on my Mac anymore. I use the Dropbox folder.

I store my pdf files (books, manuals, photography books, newsletters, etc.), financial documents, and use it as a quasi-backup solution for choice photos i'd like to upload elsewhere (facebook, picasa, flickr) even though they are resized to 2048px for the web. And now with links, it's great for sharing with friends when I do photo sessions of their baby or whatnot - no more emailing tons of photos. But I'm leaning more towards SkyDrive for my photos.
 

Drag'nGT

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Sep 20, 2008
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I don't even use my Documents folder on my Mac anymore. I use the Dropbox folder.

I store my pdf files (books, manuals, photography books, newsletters, etc.), financial documents, and use it as a quasi-backup solution for choice photos i'd like to upload elsewhere (facebook, picasa, flickr) even though they are resized to 2048px for the web. And now with links, it's great for sharing with friends when I do photo sessions of their baby or whatnot - no more emailing tons of photos. But I'm leaning more towards SkyDrive for my photos.

That sounds pretty good. I've been sharing pics and videos this way but not much else. I'll have to look at more things it can be used for.
 

jackc

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Oct 19, 2003
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Hopefully Dropbox will Drop its price per GB.

Apple wanted Dropbox, when are they going to get with the program with iCloud?

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I have 24gb of free storage on Dropbox. That's not the normal amount and I agree they have to up it a bit and improve the service thanks to the competition... And maybe Apple will see that they need to up iCloud's ante and what it's capable of as well.

But outta that amount I only have 1.3% in use. I have 1Password synced between my computers with it but what else should I be doing? I just can't seem to use all that space.

Dude, give me some space.

Don't you have any files on your computer?
 

AbSoluTc

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Sep 21, 2008
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What's not to get? You claim iCloud was baked into Lion a next gen O/S but somehow Apple gets it to work with Vista a 6 year old widely panned clunker of an O/S. That renders your argument moot. Obviously Apple could've supported iCloud in Snow Leopard. Rather it was leverage to get all the Applelites already neatly in the fold to ante up and buy the next operating system.

Meanwhile they pander to Windows users who they hope to also get in the fold. iCloud (just like iDevices) - it's all part of a segue into the Apple ecosystem. The strategy is obvious but bad form.

You say there are alternatives but there are not. For instance, have you ever actually tried to use Google Contact syncing? It's a disaster. Calendar syncing was not much better I found. MobileMe synced contacts and calendars perfectly. I don't think anyone's crying over iDisk. It was a subpar product anyway and yes you are right - for that there are better alternatives.

Further you claim that we were given plenty of time to make the switch. Yes that is true. But by the same token Apple had plenty of time and resources to release a more stable and bug free version of Lion than the one we have now. But it doesn't matter. Lion also does not support PowerPC applications, another twist of the knife that costs those of us who use our Macs to make a living to find a way to replace thousands of dollars of software that we rely on. For some there is no option so they must stick with Snow Leopard.

What Apple should have done was either A) simply made iCloud available for Snow Leopard (obvious solution) or B) if they wanted to push the upgrade, released a more stable version of Lion with PowerPC application support as an option just like in Snow Leopard.

Just sounds like you're bitter honestly. Apple has clearly wronged you in some way and you're looking for anything to make them look bad. Not sure your post is even worth a response. Good luck.
 

cammonro

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Dec 10, 2008
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Just sounds like you're bitter honestly. Apple has clearly wronged you in some way and you're looking for anything to make them look bad. Not sure your post is even worth a response. Good luck.

That is an ad hominem argument which I will take in stride. I'm not bitter at all actually. I'm a big fan of Apple. I spend a ton of money on their products, own shares and would like to see them succeed. But I'm not a blind follower. I don't see why I'm not allowed to criticize certain practices? Just calling it like I see it.
 

Judas1

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Aug 4, 2011
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and they'll scan all of your personal files

aggregate the information

and sell you advertising based on your demographic

google = evil
As opposed to advertising blindly? We all get bombarded with advertisements. I don't see how its worse when its targeted.
 

BaldiMac

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Jan 24, 2008
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As opposed to advertising blindly? We all get bombarded with advertisements. I don't see how its worse when its targeted.

Would you be okay if Google installed surveillance in every corner of your home and the places you visit, so they could keep track of everything you say and do in order to target their advertising better?

Obviously, an extreme example meant to illustrate the point that privacy is something worth protecting. It's not surprising that different people want to draw the line in different places.
 

Judas1

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Aug 4, 2011
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Would you be okay if Google installed surveillance in every corner of your home and the places you visit, so they could keep track of everything you say and do in order to target their advertising better?

Obviously, an extreme example meant to illustrate the point that privacy is something worth protecting. It's not surprising that different people want to draw the line in different places.
They data mine and aggregate data. So what. The biggest worry for me is that a site or service I use gets hacked and my personal info with password is stolen. I trust Google's encryption and security. I don't care that they know my favorite books, movies, clothings, porn, or etc.
 

BaldiMac

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They data mine and aggregate data. So what. The biggest worry for me is that a site or service I use gets hacked and my personal info with password is stolen. I trust Google's encryption and security. I don't care that they know my favorite books, movies, clothings, porn, or etc.

The old "If you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?" argument. If only there weren't so many counter examples to that argument.

http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2006/05/70886
 

Judas1

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Aug 4, 2011
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The old "If you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?" argument. If only there weren't so many counter examples to that argument.

http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2006/05/70886
No, for me, I've assumed from the beginning that being online isn't private. I'm in a virtual space connected to everybody else in the world, so why would I expect the same privacy as when I'm home alone. But what I do expect is integrity and safety. I don't expect my passwords to be shared or stolen. That's all I'm worried about.
 

BaldiMac

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No, for me, I've assumed from the beginning that being online isn't private. I'm in a virtual space connected to everybody else in the world, so why would I expect the same privacy as when I'm home alone. But what I do expect is integrity and safety. I don't expect my passwords to be shared or stolen. That's all I'm worried about.

Which is why you wouldn't want to upload the stuff that you want to remain private to Google Drive. :)
 

Judas1

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Aug 4, 2011
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Which is why you wouldn't want to upload the stuff that you want to remain private to Google Drive. :)
Hopefully, using these cloud services doesn't allow them to delve into our computers. Otherwise, I might have to stop using computers altogether.:)
 

AbSoluTc

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That is an ad hominem argument which I will take in stride. I'm not bitter at all actually. I'm a big fan of Apple. I spend a ton of money on their products, own shares and would like to see them succeed. But I'm not a blind follower. I don't see why I'm not allowed to criticize certain practices? Just calling it like I see it.

Your response says otherwise. We'll leave it at that :)
 

WaltCD

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May 17, 2009
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and they'll scan all of your personal files

aggregate the information

and sell you advertising based on your demographic


Boy! I sure hope so.. If I'm going to see advertising (a necessary evil in life, especially the "free" internet) I want it to be advertising that I'm inclined to be interested in. If my demographic helps shape that advertising, have at it!
 
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