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Squonk

macrumors 65816
Mar 15, 2005
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This is great news and all, but it took Apple around a month to release SR MBPs from when the technology was released by intel. Is it really feasible to see this being announced, nevermind shipping, in a week?

Just throwing that out there. I'm waiting until Montevina anyway.

-Ado

The SR update involved changing the motherboards. This change is a CPU change using the current motherboard. So, I think it is definitely possible for an update to come out faster - assuming they have CPUs in hand to build and they have ramped up production.
 

MrCrowbar

macrumors 68020
Jan 12, 2006
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So those mobile chips are dual core only? Couldn't find any real list of the specs. Things like heat development, power consumption and benchmarks compared to older chips would be neat.
 

fivepoint

macrumors 65816
Sep 28, 2007
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IOWA
It's been over 500 days for the MacPro. I think that has priority over every other Mac at the moment. I can see the iMac getting updated in the Spring. Unless Apple goes with a "Penryn" theme at MacWorld and updates everything.

I was kind of wondering about that as well... Instead of everyone saying "they can't update them all at once", I could see them doing exactly that. One of the big keynote points would be the success of the Intel transition and explain that the next jump is penryn. "Today, all of our macs are getting a power boost. The Penryn will be in the MacPro, the Macbook Pro, the iMac, and the MacBook."

Well, I can atleast HOPE this is what happens. I need a new iMac bad, but would like to wait for the next revision if its close at all (in the next month and a half).
 

SirOmega

macrumors 6502a
Apr 17, 2006
715
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Las Vegas
Things are also looking very good for an all-quad Mac Pro lineup. Today's announcement also had 4 Xeon processors in addition to the 3 that have already been launched. Six quad core and only one dual core Xeon chips.
 

Malcster

macrumors 6502a
Apr 26, 2005
586
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Bristol, UK
Nice! although I won't be doing anything that could use the extra speed, so ill be sticking with my Core2 2.33 MBP for the forseeable future.
 

sdhollman

macrumors regular
Nov 16, 2005
170
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Toronto, Ontario
I am confused. I know the mobile ships have not been released yet but the Xeons were released on November 12th, what is new about that? you can buy them at new egg right now.

Also if they update the MBP again before the MP I am going to scream, you guys get an update every 6 months or so. I thought the intel switch was supposed to give us faster updates, this is the biggest drought in Apple tower history.

Just venting. :(
 

Bearxor

macrumors 6502a
Jun 7, 2007
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Unless there's something to the new MBP's like a complete redesign or the option for a 1680x1050 screen on the 15" model, this will be a complete non-event for the MBP line. Speed bumps these days don't do a whole lot for me.

Edit: Perhaps, if Apple chooses the T9300 or T9500 with 6MB of L2 cache, that would be nice. But not nice enough for people with 2.13/2.2/2.33/2.4 MBP's to really upgrade.
 

Malcster

macrumors 6502a
Apr 26, 2005
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Bristol, UK
Unless there's something to the new MBP's like a complete redesign or the option for a 1680x1050 screen on the 15" model, this will be a complete non-event for the MBP line. Speed bumps these days don't do a whole lot for me.

Yup, im in same boat, my current machine is well fast enough for me.
 

Feverish Flux

macrumors regular
Sep 27, 2007
147
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can we get a list of the 16 processors please, listing clock, cache etc...

Mobile

Processor Speed L2 cache FSB Speed
Core 2 Extreme X9000 2.8GHz 6MB 800MHz
Core 2 Duo T9500 2.6GHz 6MB 800MHz
Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz 6MB 800MHz
Core 2 Duo T8300 2.4GHz 3MB 800MHz
Core 2 Duo T8100 2.1GHz 3MB 800MHz

Desktops

Processor Speed L2 cache FSB Speed
Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83GHz 12MB 1333MHz
Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.66GHz 12MB 1333MHz
Core 2 Quad Q9300 2.50GHz 6MB 1333MHz
Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz 6MB 1333MHz
Core 2 Duo E8400 3GHz 6MB 1333MHz
Core 2 Duo E8200 2.66GHz 6MB 1333MHz
Core 2 Duo E8190 2.66GHz 6MB 1333MHz

Xeons

Processor Speed L2 cache FSB Speed
Quad-core Xeon X3360 2.83GHz 12MB 1333MHz
Quad-core Xeon X3350 2.66GHz 12MB 1333MHz
Quad-core Xeon X3320 2.5GHz 6MB 1333MHz
Dual-core Xeon E3110 3GHz 6MB 1333MHz
 

fromalk

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Oct 1, 2006
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Unless there's something to the new MBP's like a complete redesign or the option for a 1680x1050 screen on the 15" model, this will be a complete non-event for the MBP line. Speed bumps these days don't do a whole lot for me.

Edit: Perhaps, if Apple chooses the T9300 or T9500 with 6MB of L2 cache, that would be nice. But not nice enough for people with 2.13/2.2/2.33/2.4 MBP's to really upgrade.

Well I'm personally hoping for the opposite,

I'm waiting to place my order to see what the new update is about. Hopefully the design stays because I like the current one way better then the mock up's I've seen allready. A huge ass touchpad is useless for me (I think :p)

what I need is
more drive space
higher resolution
and if possible these new cpu's ;)
 

Bearxor

macrumors 6502a
Jun 7, 2007
774
503
Here's hoping that Apple offers a something with a Q9300 or something so that maybe they can deliver a sub-1500 desktop tower.

Not likely... But one can dream, eh?
 

centauratlas

macrumors 68000
Jan 29, 2003
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My predictions are:
1. New Mac Pros, as stated, they've been needing an update for a while, so that is extremely likely, particularly in light of today's news.
2. Maybe the "thin-book," if so, then Mac Book Pros will be at least Spring. If no thin-book, then I also think that the MB Pros won't be shipping until Feb/March/April with these chips. I don't think they'll be announced before they can be shipped shortly thereafter.
3. iMacs - not until Spring.
4. Apple has also used unannounced Intel product numbers before, so there is always the chance that will happen here.

Apple rarely (if ever) has updated everything at once - and for several reasons (good ones, I think): 1. If supplies are constrained on chips, then they are still selling the 'older' models instead of nothing, 2. If there are problems with chips, motherboards or other components that they find later, everything is not depend it, 3. If there are multiple unknown OS incompatibilities that are only discovered during use, they are dealing with a smaller subset of machines in need of updates.

Regarding shipping this is what Intel says, in part:

Dual core desktop processor-based PCs using these new processors begin shipping this month; quad core-based systems plan to arrive later this quarter.

The company also introduced four Intel Xeon processors for servers and workstations; they are expected to ship this quarter.​
(http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20080107comp.htm?iid=pr1_releasepri_20080107m)



This is great news and all, but it took Apple around a month to release SR MBPs from when the technology was released by intel. Is it really feasible to see this being announced, nevermind shipping, in a week?

Just throwing that out there. I'm waiting until Montevina anyway.

-Ado
 

Bearxor

macrumors 6502a
Jun 7, 2007
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Well I'm personally hoping for the opposite,

I'm waiting to place my order to see what the new update is about. Hopefully the design stays because I like the current one way better then the mock up's I've seen allready. A huge ass touchpad is useless for me (I think :p)

what I need is
more drive space
higher resolution
and if possible these new cpu's ;)

Oh, absolutely if you're looking at buying one then hold off. I'm just talking about those of us that already have C2D-based machines.

I'm happy with the design of the MBP. I'd wish for a different hinge design so it would be easier to use in bed. More USB ports. Some kind of integrated card reader.

If a 15" launches that give me 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 I'll drop my current one like a hot potato when it gets back from Apple repair. I'm back to using my Inspiron 6000 with a 1680x1050 screen and man do I miss that screen resolution. At least the MBP's aren't saddled with 1280x800.
 

MovieCutter

macrumors 68040
May 3, 2005
3,342
2
Washington, DC
It's been over 500 days for the MacPro. I think that has priority over every other Mac at the moment.

It's there least selling machine. Always has been. I'd say it has less priority, especially over laptops. And this announcement is for MOBILE chips for everything BUT the Mac Pro. The Mac Pro will likely use server-class Harpertown processors.
 

chaos86

macrumors 65816
Sep 11, 2003
1,006
7
127.0.0.1
If it's something that relies on SSE4 instruction set, it's in the double digits.

So does anyone have an example of what we might do on a Mac that could use the SSE4 instruction sets?
 

uNext

macrumors 6502
Aug 21, 2006
358
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Breaking News

What kills me is that i know people that buy the pro
but all they do is broswe the internet, email listen to music and transfer videos to their ps3's. And they update their computer everytime a new one comes out LOL.

a 800mhz system can do that but i just dont know why they feel the need to spend 2500+ on a computer to do basic stuff.
 

Crike .40

macrumors member
Aug 9, 2006
46
0
Oxnard Shores (Ventura), CA
I just purchased the 2.2 15" MBP for my fiance. The bookstore where she goes to school was dumping them at $1500 and I couldn't resist the price. I am friends with the manager there and the assumption (they don't know anymore than the customers usually) is that she is trying to get rid of her inventory before the possible updates. They had only 28 left after I purchased mine. There isn't much AAPL could do to make me want the apparent "new" version instead of the 400 discount I found there.

That being said, a new babyBook to replace my aging 12" PB will be a welcome upgrade for me and I have nothing but time to wait.
 

Patchwork

macrumors 6502
Jan 6, 2008
313
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Near Preston, UK
Just thought I'd share that Sony have announced at CES that they are upgrading some of their laptops with Penryn processors, but not changing their case design. There is also a 13 inch Penryn based laptop with led screen, T9300 processor and Nvidia's GeForce 8400 and is available for pre-order today, though at $2,500 it is expensive. Interestingly they haven't put a Penryn chip in their ultraportable. As Toshiba have also announced Penryn based machines hopefully we'll see Apple upgrading their's next week.
 

darthraige

macrumors 68000
Aug 8, 2007
1,612
2
Coruscant, but Boston will do.
It's there least selling machine. Always has been. I'd say it has less priority, especially over laptops.

It's extremely outdated. Who wants a 2 1/2 year old graphics card? Or wants to pay for a 4-core when you can get an 8-core for the same price?

And this announcement is for MOBILE chips for everything BUT the Mac Pro. The Mac Pro will likely use server-class Harpertown processors.

No kidding. I am just saying at MacWorld, Apple should just have a "Penryn" theme and update everything.
 
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