Does it mean a new set of wireless product too? Because 11n just can't deliver 1080p how it should be.
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iPad 3 to Pave Way for 1080p iTunes Content and a New Apple TV?
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Not in the UK. Here you get to see all BBC channels live and can also stream individual programmes later on.
What? I personally get constant 20 MBps 11n to 11n. That's more than enough to stream BD content.
Or not. After all, why re-invent the wheel when they can just put the netflix app on their stuff and get a cut from the company. If only the whole 30% you can bet that they did give something to Apple to get the app included
Of course not, we're talking about apple.
They're just going to over-compress the 1080p stream until there's more artifact than signal. Then 90% of the fanatics will rabidly argue it looks even better with the artifacts, while the other 10% will grudgingly admit it's a little bit worse, but they have to take one for the team while apple sorts out the kinks in the amazing new delivery scheme.
Just read the first 3 pages of apple-apologists on this thread and you'll see that I'm already right.
It depends on how the Bluray disk was created.
A few years ago one company sold "widescreen" DVDs that were created by taking ordinary 4:3 contents, cutting off the top and bottom, and scaling it up. You can imagine that these "widescreen" DVDs were crap compared to even the original 4:3 contents.
Same with Bluray; if he got a Bluray disk that was created by taking an ordinary DVD and converting it to Bluray even with the highest possible bitrate, then a good upscaling DVD player will in all likelihood produce a better picture. And I wouldn't bet against this happening.
Unfortunately I totally believe you.
It's 12 to 15 times what AT&T lets you download on an "unlimited" 3G plan every month before starting to throttle. (And of course there is no such thing as an "uncompressed Blu-Ray rip").
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Everything is a "stopgap" to something better. By the time 1080p downloads match today's Blu-rays, we'll have 4k video on some other medium.
Regardless of quality, I'd still rather have a nice box I can place on a shelf and not need to backup.
Not going to happen
You'll notice that NONE of the subscription services offer New Releases or the selection that Apple currently carries. The content providers just won't let them. Netflix and Amazon have just about the same crappy selection, because thats all the providers will allow. Of course we all want a $10 a month unlimited streaming option with all the content of a PPV, but its just not going to happen.
You'll notice that NONE of the subscription services offer New Releases or the selection that Apple currently carries. The content providers just won't let them. Netflix and Amazon have just about the same crappy selection, because thats all the providers will allow. Of course we all want a $10 a month unlimited streaming option with all the content of a PPV, but its just not going to happen.
I've heard the same thing. It was Apple's way if making sure everything was encoded the right way. Plus if they can ever convince the studios to allow 1080p they have the raw materials already in place
I know soooo many people who actually believe that they are watching HD channels just because they own a new tv, even though they dont have a digital receiver with hd support nor a premium hd supscription with their provider. They always look like a fool when I tell them that its simple SD quality, in their imagination its all HD
Yes, ATV2 can play 1080 but only if the bitrate is low. But with that kind of compression you may run into obvious artifacts like blocky grays/blacks/reds. These are the sort of things that really bother some people. Oddly, iPad1 can also play anything the ATV2 can but iTunes won't copy 1080 video to the iPad. Yes, you can use something like Airvideo to play 1080 on an iPad without trouble. I used to encode to 720p but now I have started leaving things as 1080p with the expectation that anything I buy next will support it (i.e. ATV3, iPad3, etc.). I wish this would all settle. It is REALLY annoying to have media that will play only on some devices.
Buy a new TV and then it is time to connect the RCA cables.I know soooo many people who actually believe that they are watching HD channels just because they own a new tv, even though they dont have a digital receiver with hd support nor a premium hd supscription with their provider. They always look like a fool when I tell them that its simple SD quality, in their imagination its all HD
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A long way coming perhaps. Remember that's in the hards of the studios just the lame 720p which isn't even on all content already in the store. Same with the release dates, dropping seasons over syndie deals, only releasing in select stores.
If Apple could do what they want they would likely have 1080p on everything, countless redownloads, no DRM, released in all stores at once within a month after the month leaves the theatre and within a day after the TV show airs for all shows regardless of network.
At this point I'd settle for all back seasons, release of cable shows within a couple of weeks of the end of the current season and everything at least in 720p for sales and rentals and the Extras working on all devices. Just that much within the next year would be miraculous. If they did Plus pricing upgrades that would be a nice touch as well but given how greedy the studios are it is beyond even a miracle on that one
That's right! First of all, we shouldn't have HD and non-HD prices, for Rent or Buy. It's too much choices... keep it simple! Just give me the HD prices for Rent or Buy.
Then the HD Rent should be $1.99 and the HD buy price should be $9.99 (same price than an music album). If you rent a movie you should watch it as many time you want for a month (I can keep a netflix DVD at home for a month without any extra charges). But if I want to rent another one and start watching it, then the previous one would expire in the next 48 hours.
And if like the movie and want to finally buy the HD movie and keep it, before the file expire... since there's no download again, I should only pay the price difference ($8).
And bring a $19.99-29.99 Streaming-ish monthly "All you can eat" plan, to rent anything from the store and stream some live channels (Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc...) to replace to cable. Something between iTunes Rent and Netflix...
And then, bring an Apple TV with TIVO features to record and replay recorded "Live Streaming" movies, sports, shows, etc... linked to iCloud and running iOS for Apps and Games, with a large drive to be used as Time Capsule for all my Apple devices.
And finally, bring me wireless remote (like Boxee Box) and gamepads (like Xbox/PS3)...
That would work better for me I guess
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Continued Support?
I hope Apple continues support of the second generation Apple TV, I still use mine regularly to stream my iTunes purchases to my TV.
I hope Apple continues support of the second generation Apple TV, I still use mine regularly to stream my iTunes purchases to my TV.
A few thoughts on 1080p
It would fill your complete WiFi bandwidth, it's already a problem with 720p.
1080p with low bitrate sucks, you don't want it. Apple should properly encode their 720p stuff and put a faster CPU in the AppleTV.
Buying Movies is too expensive already. If they charge extra, nobody will buy.
Bandwidth might be an issue. Even though we all like to think that we are living in a perfect world, not everyone has 100MBit connectivity.
I want a Time-Capsule like device that can act as a iTunes Library. I want to push a certain amount of my own content on it and switch off my computer.
A question (really): If you watch movie trailers on ATV2, they look pretty much like 1080p.
Does someone know if they are?
The picture quality is way better than anything you buy on iTunes.
It would fill your complete WiFi bandwidth, it's already a problem with 720p.
1080p with low bitrate sucks, you don't want it. Apple should properly encode their 720p stuff and put a faster CPU in the AppleTV.
Buying Movies is too expensive already. If they charge extra, nobody will buy.
Bandwidth might be an issue. Even though we all like to think that we are living in a perfect world, not everyone has 100MBit connectivity.
I want a Time-Capsule like device that can act as a iTunes Library. I want to push a certain amount of my own content on it and switch off my computer.
A question (really): If you watch movie trailers on ATV2, they look pretty much like 1080p.
Does someone know if they are?
The picture quality is way better than anything you buy on iTunes.
You assume they didn't try to get those for the ATV. perhaps they did and were took to piss off.
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1080p ≠ good, actually. Blu Ray is 1080p, but it is compressed enough that the quality is still not so good. I found my DVD player with a 1080p upscaler higher quality than Blu Ray with the exception of the colors not being as good,.
Then whatever system you are using sucks or you have done something wrong; blu ray blows SD out of the water.
Originally Posted by faroZ06
1080p ≠ good, actually. Blu Ray is 1080p, but it is compressed enough that the quality is still not so good. I found my DVD player with a 1080p upscaler higher quality than Blu Ray with the exception of the colors not being as good,.
Then whatever system you are using sucks or you have done something wrong; blu ray blows SD out of the water.
So who wants to speculate if ATV 3 is going to be a TV which talks with your iOS device and has full internet as well as cloud apps and of course HD content?
Who else wants to speculate if in addition to 1080p mobile or stationary it supports 2160P (4K) and 3D (2xHD).
Rocketman
Who else wants to speculate if in addition to 1080p mobile or stationary it supports 2160P (4K) and 3D (2xHD).
Rocketman
They'd have to make it something special to budge me from my new-found PS3 love.
The PS3 already can do 1080, browses the net, accesses YouTube, Hulu, Netflix, a half-dozen other television services, and you can hook up a drive to the USB port and watch a library full of stuff with ease. You can also wirelessly access stuff from a Mac.
Don't have to pay a cent for similar tech. It might become more interesting if it has a port attached to allow a drive hook-up.
As for the tech, it is about time ATV got 1080. That was the biggest shame of the device to date. It was a kinda trinket-tech lingering behind reality of resolution in everyone's homes these days. Apple's TV service lingering with resolution has also been sad. They've been operating at less-than-excellence. Hopefully Apple will enlarge their whole TV-Movie-Music service and their TV tech... at LONG last.
The PS3 already can do 1080, browses the net, accesses YouTube, Hulu, Netflix, a half-dozen other television services, and you can hook up a drive to the USB port and watch a library full of stuff with ease. You can also wirelessly access stuff from a Mac.
Don't have to pay a cent for similar tech. It might become more interesting if it has a port attached to allow a drive hook-up.
As for the tech, it is about time ATV got 1080. That was the biggest shame of the device to date. It was a kinda trinket-tech lingering behind reality of resolution in everyone's homes these days. Apple's TV service lingering with resolution has also been sad. They've been operating at less-than-excellence. Hopefully Apple will enlarge their whole TV-Movie-Music service and their TV tech... at LONG last.
Needs HDMI input
The next AppleTV needs an HDMI In so you can put it in the line between your set top box and the TV. In this way the AppleTV could pass through the set top box content when it is asleep but take over when someone gives it an AirPlay video, without having to change the input on your TV. This would also let the Apple TV overlay stuff on top of the set top video like scores, a ticker, or whatever.
The next AppleTV needs an HDMI In so you can put it in the line between your set top box and the TV. In this way the AppleTV could pass through the set top box content when it is asleep but take over when someone gives it an AirPlay video, without having to change the input on your TV. This would also let the Apple TV overlay stuff on top of the set top video like scores, a ticker, or whatever.
If it is a new compression that allows for extremely close to blu-ray video and sound without creating a freaking 50GB file then they can market it however they want