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nickspohn

macrumors 68040
Jun 9, 2007
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Well whoever says it will drain the battery, you have to remember that a lot of iPhones are set to check mail every 15 minutes.
 

The General

macrumors 601
Jul 7, 2006
4,825
1
While it's possible to have dynamic icons, you'll likely need to have the app run in the background to some extent (that is, if they are not one of Apple's chosen that can run in the background). Currently, I don't think the weather app runs in the background, but the clock does I think (based on the fact that the alarm goes off when the app is not opened). It would be cool if we could have a 3rd party weather app to display a dynamic icon (because I don't even use the native weather app - it's pretty useless compared to TWC or AccuWeather).

It wouldn't be an "app," it would just be part of the Springboard. Anyway, there is a package I found in Cydia that makes the clock icon a real clock with a second hand and everything, it's pretty sweet.
 

ChrisN

macrumors 65816
Aug 27, 2007
1,071
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Demarest, NJ
Personally, I think being able to see summary information of several things in one place is very useful. It is after all why the dashboard and widgets exist in OS X. Sure, you can click into a clock application to check the time, the weather to check the temperature, the calendar to check the date, the mail application to see if you have new messages, the phone to see if you have missed calls or voicemail, and SMS to check for new text messages. But it's a nice feature that you can already see most of those things right from the home screen on the iPhone. We're just fantasizing about the extra addition of seeing the temperature from there too.

By the way, it's "too lazy", "weather", "you're" and "supposed to". Spelling still counts in flame posts. :rolleyes:
+1 I would like to see the weather is like today without having to load it and all

ChrisN
 

vandlism

macrumors 6502
Jun 20, 2007
407
0
So you guys are telling me that you want the Weather application constantly running in the background, checking your location via GPS, gathering the temperature/cloud conditions for the region, and then updating the weather icon on your home screen, even if it's not on the front page? This type of action is just fine for your Mac and Dashboard because it uses a lot less resources and memory to do so. On the iPhone, it's going to kill your battery right quickly. Additionally this would result in a different user experience between the iPhone and iPod touch, as the iPod is not always able to determine its location.
 

kdarling

macrumors P6
So you guys are telling me that you want the Weather application constantly running in the background, checking your location via GPS, gathering the temperature/cloud conditions for the region, and then updating the weather icon on your home screen, even if it's not on the front page?

We want the OPTION to do so. If you don't, then that's okay too.

Perhaps you don't know that other phones allow these things. It makes them very useful.

My WM phones all have updated weather and events on the homepage. Almost all the weather programs (and there are many choices) allow you to set how often they update, if battery is a worry. You can even set them to manually update, as the iPhone does when you click it, but at least you see it on your homepage.

Other phones also have background apps available that watch your GPS location and do clever things with that information. The iPhone is crippled in comparison.

It's all about allowing desires and choice, something that Apple isn't very good at since they like to stay in control instead.

It's also about the single-tasking model Apple chose. Only multi-tasking devices get the ability to do always-visible apps. The iPhone relies on keeping the apps hidden and stopped until you take the time to go look at them individually.
 

aluren

macrumors 65816
Sep 9, 2008
1,200
4
to be honest, i never knew that the calendar icon date changes everyday until someone pointed it out to me. but the idea that it can update the weather too would be a nice feature, like the home screen on windows mobile like someone pointed out already. as far as battery drain problem, they should make an option for it to update certain amount of times and at what time, like at 7am, noon, and 6pm, or whatever...
 

ahhyeah

macrumors newbie
Aug 6, 2008
11
0
It does have the option to set the update interval although I've noticed no difference in battery life and mine is set to 15 minutes.
 

Beery

macrumors newbie
Jan 23, 2008
8
0
We want the OPTION to do so. If you don't, then that's okay too.

QFE.

One of the things I most despise is the type of mentality that causes people to argue against an optional feature that they will never be forced to use as if the fact that they don't desire it means that anyone else who does must be either stupid or crazy.
 

Beery

macrumors newbie
Jan 23, 2008
8
0
This is the funniest stuff I have seen in a long time. Are you really that dumb? Are you people too lazy? Why not just click the button to get the real weather like you're supposed to?

Grammar and spelling fixed. Though I can't fix the stupidity of the writer's message or the laziness that causes someone to fail so badly to write using reasonably proper English.
 

Knowlege Bomb

macrumors G4
Feb 14, 2008
10,195
8,833
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Grammar and spelling fixed. Though I can't fix the stupidity of the writer's message or the laziness that causes someone to fail so badly to write using reasonably proper English.

Top of the line post. Thank you for that. I actually have to restrain myself from doing this in every thread I visit.
 

jf8

macrumors regular
Aug 8, 2007
104
0
So you guys are telling me that you want the Weather application constantly running in the background, checking your location via GPS, gathering the temperature/cloud conditions for the region, and then updating the weather icon on your home screen, even if it's not on the front page? This type of action is just fine for your Mac and Dashboard because it uses a lot less resources and memory to do so. On the iPhone, it's going to kill your battery right quickly. Additionally this would result in a different user experience between the iPhone and iPod touch, as the iPod is not always able to determine its location.

It's nowhere nere that complex. A process "running" in the background and doing something on an interval spends very little time on the CPU. It will sleep for a given amount of time and not use any CPU until the timer expires (thus only using the CPU and battery power for a very short amount of time.)
Furthermore, there's no need for such a process to be loaded all the time if there was a facility for periodically running third-party code.

There is no need to have an actual GPS fix for location-determined weather information. Simply being registered on a cellular network provides enough information to select a nearby city. There's also enough inforation to determine whether the device has moved between lots of cells or to an entirely new network/region of a larger network, so the device could decide to get a weather update on a different interval if it's more likely that the nearest city has changed.

Sometimes people cite technical limitations to explain why they do not implement a certain feature, but that certainly isn't the case here.
 

skubish

macrumors 68030
Feb 2, 2005
2,663
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Ann Arbor, Michigan
Personally I would love it if Apple allowed app icons to be updated. Weather is just one example but I sure there are others. But I guess this would require the apps to run in the background so it will never happen.
 

Beery

macrumors newbie
Jan 23, 2008
8
0
The phone would have to be off for it to be that cool inside the phone. Normally the thing gets pretty darn toasty under heavy use!

That's just the outside shell. Most people don't know this, but most of the iphone's interior is used to house a sophisticated heating and cooling system built by NASA engineers to keep the weather button (and only the weather button) at a steady 73 degrees fahrenheit. The weather button itself measures temperature precisely and updates the temperature every second, but since the heating and cooling apparatus works flawlessly it never varies from 73 degrees. If it ever does variy from 73 degrees, that's the time to worry: an iphone with a bad temperature control can demagnetize fridge magnets, decaulk every window in the house, reprogram Tivo to record every Barney episode and incinerate all porn within a 30 yard radius.
 
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