If you want to listen to music and like what zunepass gives you, get the zune.
If you want to be able to look up types of birds, get an ipod touch.
For me web browsing is, I guess, most important.
Do both devices support VPNs?
If you want to listen to music and like what zunepass gives you, get the zune.
If you want to be able to look up types of birds, get an ipod touch.
Well... Shure on Zune HD vs. iPod earbuds on iPod touch. Shure wins hands down. Use stock earbuds on both PMPs.
Really? What happens if you stop subscribing? You lose ALL of your music. I see the benefits, but I want to own whatever I buy. But that's IMHO.
Lol. This thread was meant to be flamed on...lol. Just buy either one, it's about preferences jezzz people...you're being "fanboys"
The Zune is a traditional media player than general purpose device. So if you want a general purpose pocket computer then the iPod touch is the way to go.
The Zune HD reminds me of very much what Apple would attempt if they were trying to get into a market. It is very focussed on doing a few things well (music, video) and has some unique features which make it stand out as a premium product.
In terms of design, I think it is better than the touch. Whilst the screws may not be to everyone's taste I think they fit well with the rugged, industrial look.
The touch debuted in 2007, even in that time the chipsets and techniques would have progressed (e.g. the Zune HD is lighter, yet offers a brighter screen and better battery life).
Zune users do all get their software updates for free, which is another bonus to the HD. That wasn't mentioned in the OPs comparison.
If you want to listen to music and like what zunepass gives you, get the zune.
If you want to be able to look up types of birds, get an ipod touch.
Disagree completely. The iPod and all its lines are traditionally music players. Right at the beginning. Where on paper did Apple say that they are no longer considered music players. They are iPods. A traditional music player at heart. Just because Apple added some fun and usefulness with it, doesn't mean that iPods are no longer music players.
Apple just clouted the touch as a gaming device at the iPod event lol... and the iPod touch does a lot of things besides play music, and some of the other iPods are getting more features that don't have to do with music (nano camera).
What the OP was saying is that in the past apple would come to market with something like the iPod, and all it really does is play music and podcasts. Now apple's devices have a ton of extra features built into them. It seems the Zune HD is more dedicated to being a music player than an all in one gaming/email/mobile web/calander/app store/iPod/etc. device.
Disagree completely. The iPod and all its lines are traditionally music players. Right at the beginning. Where on paper did Apple say that they are no longer considered music players. They are iPods. A traditional music player at heart. Just because Apple added some fun and usefulness with it, doesn't mean that iPods are no longer music players.
I think we have our wires crossed.
The point I was trying to make is that the Zune is focussed on music and video, whereas the iPod has a broader feature set.
The fact that the Zune doesn't support the Mac platform makes it a non-issue for me. I would check it out as I'm a bit of a MP junkie, but haven't bothered to due to that one issue alone.
Oddly, it's not people being fanboys, rather it's people taking offense to what is not a fair comparison. I don't own a Zune and doubt I would ever, but it's wrong to post information like that and try to claim to have some sort of credibility.
This thread is asking for a Flame War. I say we close it and get real facts not opinions and then decide which is better.
This thread is asking for a Flame War. I say we close it and get real facts not opinions and then decide which is better.
Yes, but SnowLeopard2008 has been absent from it, I still really would like to know if he spent anytime with the Zune and if so, how much.