OS X List of Mac Metal games

[jeanlain]

Yeah, the new Metal renderer is fast…

OpenGL:

Metal:

…but it has so many issues at the moment (object and texture pop-ins, missing reflections and other effects, weird mouse pointer shenanigans, the screen is occasionally bright pink,...) that I wouldn't bother with it.

I gave the game a try just for benchmarking. /geek
I haven't see any graphical issue with Metal, on the benchmarks at least.
The most relevant comparison between APIs should use settings where the GPU isn't the limiting factor. On my weak intel HD, this is only possible with the very lowest settings and resolution. In these conditions Metal is at least twice faster (97 min fps vs 43 min fps). I cannot use the average fps for a fair comparison since it's capped at 120 fps on Metal (limitation of core animation). The average fps of openGL is 70.

 

[Janichsan]

I gave the game a try just for benchmarking. /geek
I haven't see any graphical issue with Metal, on the benchmarks at least.

I can't rule out that it's hardware specific (I tested it on an AMD GPU), but all the issues I saw were noticeable during the benchmarks.

 

[TheGream]

Blizzard has a beta version of Metal on most of their games now - I know Starcraft 2 does, need to check D3 etc.

 

[Irishman]

Blizzard has a beta version of Metal on most of their games now - I know Starcraft 2 does, need to check D3 etc.

How do you know this? Care to share your source so we can check it out?

 

[DougTheImpaler]

How do you know this? Care to share your source so we can check it out?

Just fire up the game and see for yourself. It's a drop-down on the graphics options screen. Both SC2 and Heroes. There's OpenGL 4.1, too, but it doesn't run nearly as well as Metal.

Not in Diablo yet, though.

 

[Irishman]

Just fire up the game and see for yourself. It's a drop-down on the graphics options screen. Both SC2 and Heroes. There's OpenGL 4.1, too, but it doesn't run nearly as well as Metal.

Not in Diablo yet, though.

Ahhhh, I gotcha. I just don't own any of the Starcraft games, so I couldn't check for myself.

 

[jeanlain]

The Blizzard games are already in the list.
Dawn of War III is just released BTW.

 

[Demigod Mac]

Universe Sandbox 2 now uses Metal.

Surprised Diablo 3 hasn't added support yet.

 

[jeanlain]

Universe Sandbox 2 now uses Metal.

I can't find a link that indicates Metal support.

 

[Demigod Mac]

I can't find a link that indicates Metal support.

It appears where the graphics API is listed. (On the PC version it lists Direct3D in the same place.) I can get a screenshot of it later today if you want.

 

[wubsylol]

Universe Sandbox 2 now uses Metal.

Surprised Diablo 3 hasn't added support yet.

Diablo 3 is still a 32-bit application.

 

[PJivan]

Any benchmark for warhammer total war on metal vs dx11/12?

 

[jeanlain]

Not that I have seen, but that'd be interesting as the game now also runs openGL on Linux. So, 4 APIs can be compared on the same game.
We also have Dawn of War III, which supports Vulkan on Linux, but not DX12. Four APIs can be compared as well.
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Diablo 3 is still a 32-bit application.

At some point they will have to update the game as macOS will eventually drop support for 32-bit apps. The game probably uses the openGL 2.1 compatibility mode. Going 64 bits may impose moving to a more modern OpenGL or Metal, but I don't think that's the case.

 

[Ferazel]

I'd hope that if Valve is willing to invest time to be a partner for Steam VR for macOS that they'd write a Metal backend to their Source2 engine, but they don't seem to be using it a lot. Mainly just for DOTA2.

 

[jeanlain]

I recall that Gabe said in a interview that they intend to use Source 2 for all their new projects. CS:GO will move to Source 2 this summer.
As for VR, it'd be great if we could get some demos running on macOS by the time of the high Sierra release. Valve has "the lab", which mostly runs on unity, so they could get it ported easily I suppose (except the demo(s) that use Source 2, I'm not sure if there is one beside Robot Repair).
There are other demos like TheBlu, which puts you under the sea and also uses Unity.

 

[epca12]

I hadn't heard that Ark: survival evolved will be coming, and i'm really looking forward to seeing performance under metal on new hardware. It's a demanding game from what i've seen.

 

[Demigod Mac]

Here you go, Windows version on the left, Mac on the right. Bottom right corner shows the graphics API.
(Oddly enough they don't mention it in their documentation)

 

[EllieFeral]

HITMAN, powered by Metal, will be available on June 20th.

 

[wubsylol]

HITMAN, powered by Metal, will be available on June 20th.

THE HYPE

 

[Janichsan]

Here you go, Windows version on the left, Mac on the right. Bottom right corner shows the graphics API.
(Oddly enough they don't mention it in their documentation)

The Steam store page also only mentions OpenGL.

HITMAN, powered by Metal, will be available on June 20th.

About time.

 

[jeanlain]

About time.

Come on, show some passion!
It isn't Feral's fault after all.

 

[Janichsan]

Come on, show some passion!
It isn't Feral's fault after all.

Well, it was Feral's decision to release three other games first (which I have zero to none interest in), despite Hitman having been announced far earlier. And I'm still waiting for Deus Ex MD and Dirt Rally (which both are also far more interesting to me than Total Warhammer, F1 2016 and DoW III).

 

[diegopm25]

HITMAN, powered by Metal, will be available on June 20th.

Nice to have a date! and any date for Deus Ex MD???
Thanks!

 

[Eric5h5]

The Steam store page also only mentions OpenGL.

Well, as noted that's the minimum spec. If it runs on 10.9 it would need an OpenGL renderer.

--Eric

 

[ErikGrim]

Nice to have a date! and any date for Deus Ex MD???
Thanks!

Why is there suddenly crickets on this? Seemed to be on the way with the latest Metal updates?