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roberticus70

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Jun 27, 2012
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Another option for word processing

Not sure if anyone has noted this yet, but I discovered yesterday that OpenOffice appears to work well at retina resolution.

Aside from Google docs, it's the only way I have been able to do word processing with docs that have footnotes and other complex formatting.

If there are any other suggestions, please pass them on...
 

malone

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Jan 24, 2008
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Not sure if anyone has noted this yet, but I discovered yesterday that OpenOffice appears to work well at retina resolution.

The text might be clear, but I imagine the graphic assets and rendering (e.g., icons, shapes) haven't been updated for Retina.

I've updated the structure of the list to reflect applications that have been confirmed as Retina updates, vs. the ones that render text fine by default (i.e., uses the system's default font renderer, instead of a proprietary renderer like many web browsers, e-readers, and others do).
 

joecool99

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Aug 20, 2008
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apple store demo laptops CS6 and Final Cut ?

apple store is 60 miles from my location. however i would like to go see the retina MBP in person.
what i really want to play with is Adobe CS6 on the retina.


Do floor demo laptops have any such applications installed ? Such as CS6 Master Collections ?
I want to check out new Premiere, InDesign, Photoshop especially.

i know in the past they had Final Cut Pro and CS5 version.
 

blow45

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The text might be clear, but I imagine the graphic assets and rendering (e.g., icons, shapes) haven't been updated for Retina.

I've updated the structure of the list to reflect applications that have been confirmed as Retina updates, vs. the ones that render text fine by default (i.e., uses the system's default font renderer, instead of a proprietary renderer like many web browsers, e-readers, and others do).

Why won't a proprietary text renderer work though under certain retina provisions? It will be dead boring to have everything rendered via os x.
 

stevelam

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Nov 4, 2010
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Why won't a proprietary text renderer work though under certain retina provisions? It will be dead boring to have everything rendered via os x.

What do you mean why? Because its proprietary and clearly wasn't meant to scale on a retina screen. And just because it's rendered via OSX doesn't mean it has to look the same.
 

4rtemidis

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Jun 20, 2012
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Can't wait to see more applications with retina graphics!
Most apps just don't look good right now... It's a shame that Apple hasn't updated the iWork suite!
 

blow45

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What do you mean why? Because its proprietary and clearly wasn't meant to scale on a retina screen. And just because it's rendered via OSX doesn't mean it has to look the same.

Why wouldn't a proprietory rendering engine not scale for retina if it's written to do so? There's a reason why they is their own text rendering man, that's because they render text in a different way that's why.
 

malone

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Jan 24, 2008
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Why wouldn't a proprietory rendering engine not scale for retina if it's written to do so? There's a reason why they is their own text rendering man, that's because they render text in a different way that's why.

You're right--it could and would scale properly for the new displays if it was written to do so. We're just waiting for the developers to update their renderers. Chrome has it already in their nightly and dev builds.
 

stevelam

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Why wouldn't a proprietory rendering engine not scale for retina if it's written to do so? There's a reason why they is their own text rendering man, that's because they render text in a different way that's why.

sorry but this basically made absolutely zero sense. it sounds like you're arguing with yourself. like i said, obviously applications with proprietary methods of rendering text need to be rewritten to account for scaling on a retina screen.
 

blow45

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Jan 18, 2011
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sorry but this basically made absolutely zero sense. it sounds like you're arguing with yourself. like i said, obviously applications with proprietary methods of rendering text need to be rewritten to account for scaling on a retina screen.

It didn't make sense to you, it made perfect sense to the op I was quoting so I guess your opinion here is irrelevant :)
 

kazmac

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Mar 24, 2010
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Any place but here or there....
can't speak for every store

apple store is 60 miles from my location. however i would like to go see the retina MBP in person.
what i really want to play with is Adobe CS6 on the retina.


Do floor demo laptops have any such applications installed ? Such as CS6 Master Collections ?
I want to check out new Premiere, InDesign, Photoshop especially.

i know in the past they had Final Cut Pro and CS5 version.

but I noticed the CS6 suite on the rMBP the specialist was showing me at Apple 5th Ave NYC yesterday, unsurprisingly he did NOT launch any of those apps - I know folks have said Adobe are working hard to optimize their software for retina.
 

mattonthemoon

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Feb 25, 2007
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Editing my post to create a list of Retina-ready apps or announcements of readiness intent. Will try to update occasionally with what's happening in this thread and restructure as it expands.

As of June 28, 2012:

Updated or in nightly build

Coda 2
Transmit
Twitterific
Sublime Text 2
Xcode
Layer Cake
VLC (in nightly build)
Google Chrome (in nightly build and dev channel)
Transmission (in nightly build)
Cyberduck (in nightly)

Partially updated, or text rendering crisp with Retina

Adium (partially updated?)
Echofon (partially updated?)
OpenOffice (partially updated?)
Eclipse (partially updated? see: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=382972)
Intellij (partially updated? see: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-87500)
Java 6 apps, generally (see: http://lists.apple.com/archives/java.../msg00069.html)

Near-future intentions of update announced or confirmed

Adobe Photoshop CS6 (near future intentions announced; unknown for rest of suite)
Omni Group suite (near future intentions confirmed)
Boxer (near future intentions confirmed via email)
Reeder (Retina version submitted to app store for approval)
Tweetbot
Espresso (near future intentions confirmed via email)

Reeder was just updated in the MAS! woohoo looks great!

Also, the 1Password Retina update has been confirmed via email.
 
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4rtemidis

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Jun 20, 2012
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1Password has also confirmed a retina-ipad version but it's still not finished... :( Is it so hard to update a rather simple application?
I mean they just need @2x graphics or am I wrong?
 

MikhailT

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1Password has also confirmed a retina-ipad version but it's still not finished... :( Is it so hard to update a rather simple application?
I mean they just need @2x graphics or am I wrong?

Retina updates for the Mac app is already available in the beta update.

If it was so simple, we wouldn't need a list to keep track of App Retina updates and every apps would be ready for the Retina displays.

The iPad app will get an optimized Retina version when it is ready, they have a reason for it not included right away. Right now, the iPad app looks fine on the iPad 3rd generation, it doesn't need it right away, it's still usable.

We just have to be patient.
 

mattonthemoon

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Feb 25, 2007
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Toronto, ON
Retina updates for the Mac app is already available in the beta update.

Good call, thanks for this.

Also the 1Password team told me they are working on the rMBP update first, then the iPad retina update. I find this odd since the iPad has been out since late March... Oh well.
 

cmChimera

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Feb 12, 2010
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I came to note that VLC was retina ready now, but see someone beat me. Can we sticky this thread please? This is going to be extremely useful in the coming months.
 

darwinian

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Jan 4, 2008
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In R4, more or less
is there still no word processing app for retina?

vim

How does LibreOffice look? Also wondering about MacVim.

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Good call, thanks for this.

Also the 1Password team told me they are working on the rMBP update first, then the iPad retina update. I find this odd since the iPad has been out since late March... Oh well.

Maybe that says something about the relative adoption of the iPad version versus desktop? For me it's definitely useful on both, but the iPad version is not ideal (I would like a plug-in like browser architecture, but this is no fault of the 3rd party mfg).
 

mattonthemoon

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Original poster
Feb 25, 2007
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Toronto, ON
I came to note that VLC was retina ready now, but see someone beat me. Can we sticky this thread please? This is going to be extremely useful in the coming months.

VLC already looked great on the retina, this is just a slight upgrade for some buttons etc :)
 
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