Looking for a graphic card with boot

[sevichenko]

Hi mates, i'm looking for a 8800gt for my mac pro 3,1 because of the boot.

I also have a GTX570 as a second card. If you think in a better card as a first card, i mean to have boot screen, tell me which one are you thinking at.

 

[pastrychef]

I think most 8800 GT cards will work, but you still have to flash them with Mac EFI firmware.

For the 8800 GT, there were 32 bit and 64 bit available. The 64 bit one works with the 3,1.

 

[sevichenko]

when you say "will work" do you mean that "will boot" when i flash it?
but i think the bottom model boots with mac os even without flashing, or i'm in a mistake?

this one is 256Bit
https://www.pccomponentes.com/point-of-view-geforce-8800gt-512mb-gddr3-pci-e

 

[pastrychef]

when you say "will work" do you mean that "will boot" when i flash it?

Yes.

but i think the bottom model boots with mac os even without flashing, or i'm in a mistake?

That's only true if the card is an OEM Apple card. It's impossible to tell just from looking at it.

 

[sevichenko]

Yes.




That's only true if the card is an OEM Apple card. It's impossible to tell just from looking at it.

oh ok ok, it looks like the apple OEM but can be a pc oem

 

[orph]

you may be better of getting a mac gt120 the 8800gt are not the best cards, there's lots of ati cards that you can flash too

 

[sevichenko]

you may be better of getting a mac gt120 the 8800gt are not the best cards, there's lots of ati cards that you can flash too

i have a 4890HD flashed that i cannot make it work correctly because of the drivers. The card won't boot and with the exotic graphic cards kexts doen't work properly.

 

[h9826790]

Hi mates, i'm looking for a 8800gt for my mac pro 3,1 because of the boot.
Do you know if this model works fine?

or only this one?

Not very sure what do you mean about "because of boot". You need a card that can boot in OSX? Or a card that can provide boot screen? They are difference. If only need a card that can boot in your 3,1. There are plenty of options, and almost no reason to get this 8800GT.

 

[sevichenko]

Not very sure what do you mean about "because of boot". You need a card that can boot in OSX? Or a card that can provide boot screen? They are difference. If only need a card that can boot in your 3,1. There are plenty of options, and almost no reason to get this 8800GT.

Sorry for my english, sometimes i make mistakes on spelling.

I mean a card that provides boot screen, so i can use recovery or test options.
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you may be better of getting a mac gt120 the 8800gt are not the best cards, there's lots of ati cards that you can flash too

8800GT is not for performance, is for getting boot screen, i can buy the 8800GT for 12-17$ and the GT120 is a rarest card here in Spain so it would be more expensive. For Performance i would buy a GTX570 (around 70$)

 

[AkuskaUK]

Watch out with buying an Apple 8800GT as they are plagued with overheating problems that desolder the GPU die.

 

[sevichenko]

Watch out with buying an Apple 8800GT as they are plagued with overheating problems that desolder the GPU die.

Unfortunately i think all the nvidias has that plague, but i think ATI is worst, ATI is mordor

 

[AkuskaUK]

Unfortunately i think all the nvidias has that plague, but i think ATI is worst, ATI is mordor

It was due to using lead free solder, which when heated to the 8800GT's running temp, melted the solder which lead to hairline cracks making the die move slightly :S

Ive not heard much about it on other brands though, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was common!

 

[sevichenko]

I was talking in the last years with a soldering specialist and they told me that is not much difference between leaded solder and unleaded solder, the problem is with overheating and ventilation system. That is common on ps3 and xbox consoles.

 

[AkuskaUK]

I was talking in the last years with a soldering specialist and they told me that is not much difference between leaded solder and unleaded solder, the problem is with overheating and ventilation system. That is common on ps3 and xbox consoles.

The other reasons the 8800GT failed, which you stated, is the very poor airflow with it being a single slot card. If you are able to get the dual slot, go for it as the airflow is much more efficient!

 

[sevichenko]

another thing i'm thinking is about the power wires, i have 2 power wires on my mac pro 3,1. if i put the 8800gt that has 1 power cord, then i cannot connect the second GPU 570GTX that has 2 power cords.

 

[orph]

life options

iv not had boot screens since 2013 >.> dont see the need for them

buy an power supply and pull out one extra pci brackets out and route the cables thro there if you relay need it

or you can hard mode the mac, but thats not simple or easy

 

[666sheep]

I was talking in the last years with a soldering specialist and they told me that is not much difference between leaded solder and unleaded solder, the problem is with overheating and ventilation system. That is common on ps3 and xbox consoles.

Yes and no. ROHS is prone to excessive heat much more than leaded solder.
But in 8600-8800 series case the problem was chips themself, not the BGA solder.

 

[CapnDavey]

Watch out not all 8800GT's can be flashed some EVGA and others can but only if it has the larger rom. Better option get a GTX680 and flash it its a much better card

 

[sevichenko]

Watch out not all 8800GT's can be flashed some EVGA and others can but only if it has the larger rom. Better option get a GTX680 and flash it its a much better card

this one have boot screen option?

 

[h9826790]

this one have boot screen option?

Yes, if you get a flashed one, or flash it by yourself. There is a EVGA GTX680 Mac Edition card (have boot screen natively on Mac), but they are very rare now, hard to find, and most likely way over price.

 

[ActionableMango]

this one have boot screen option?

If it is flashed, yes.

 

[sevichenko]

Yes, if you get a flashed one, or flash it by yourself. There is a EVGA GTX680 Mac Edition card (have boot screen natively on Mac), but they are very rare now, hard to find, and most likely way over price.

because of that is better to flash it. but it bought a gtx570 thinking that it can be flashed to get boot screen but someone told me that i cannot do that.

 

[orph]

why do you need boot screen?
is there a solid reason you need boot screen?

as far as i know the GTX 680 is one of the only nvidia cards you can flash easily, there are a bunch of ATI cards that can be flashed too

 

[CapnDavey]

Here's a nice guide to flashing GTX680's remember download the older flasher from 2013
http://www.sugarway.com/blog/evga-gtx680-flashed-for-mac-use/

 

[sevichenko]

why do you need boot screen?
is there a solid reason you need boot screen?

as far as i know the GTX 680 is one of the only nvidia cards you can flash easily, there are a bunch of ATI cards that can be flashed too

i flashed an ATI radeon 4890HD without any results

I have an unflashed nvidia gtx570, if i flash it, i will have any pros?