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Lyrics Coming To iTunes?
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That initial TUAW post was pointing to the same Reuters article, just mirrored by PC Mag. Unfortunately, its not really confirmation...
I just hope it works better than the Album Artwork b/c a lot of my albums are the wrong cover art. I ripped my own Led Zeppelin CDs but when iTunes pulled down the album art off of iTS, I got Dread Zeppelin cover art instead.
That's just because there's no Zeppelin on iTunes Store (UK at least)
Karaoke isn't just singing lyrics over a song - the original lyrics need to be gone from the track. There are some signal processing algorithms to do this, and on older music it works better, but I haven't seen one that's close to 100%. I can't imagine Apple launching Karaoke half-assed like this, but there is probably an opportunity for a thrird-party plug-in for iTunes to get 'good-enough' results.
A wireless Mic (white plastic, of course) would be a good use for the USB port on theTV.
I envision a different category or playlist in
TV for Karaoke, with songs available from ITS (or, if you are so inclined, exported from GarageBand with a special template similar to the podcast template). Podcasts can have different album art appear at specific points in the episode, so a similar strategy for karaoke songs would probably be possible.I'm no fan of karaoke myself, but if others want it and it drives
TV sales, it would be good for all of us.The bigger challenge would be finding a rapper/studio/producer/label combination willing to pay for that. I can't imagine a song like that selling many copies (not because the world loves Apple, but because the vast majority of the music-buying world doesn't really care).
I agree completely. I always have to double-check song titles, composers, and the genre. Sometimes even the album title is wrong.
CDDB doesn't seem to have any quality controls at all, it's just what other users submit. How is this any different from all the other lyric websites? They often have mistakes, too, which is why I don't use any of the lyric-fetching widgets or applescripts.
I don't think it will matter that much. An audio-only karaoke recording, plus a lyric sheet would be really annoying to sing over.
Apple needs to work with the karaoke vendors on iTunes (like SoundChoice) and get them to distribute videos instead of just audio files. This way, the lyrics will be visible.
This would be really useful. Especially for the CDs I rip myself.
Just for that, you're not invited to my shows. Nyaaaah!
Removing the vocals from an existing recording never works quite right. Center-channel elimination from stereo recordings can work, somewhat, if the singer's voice is mixed to center (it isn't always.)
This is one big reason why commercial karaoke discs contain cover-band reproductions and don't have the original audio. (The other reason is that license fees for an in-house cover-band recordings are much less.)
Apple already sells karaoke tracks on iTunes, but they're audio only. Selling them with text-based lyrics, to be overlayed by explicit code in iTunes/QuickTime seems like a complete waste. Far better to play video files that are ripped from the CD+G/DVD files already sold by those same karaoke track publishers.ClimbingTheLog said:
It seems that at least one karaoke publisher is already doing this, but they're not being sold on iTunes (yet?).
(And adding the ability to rip a CD+G into an iTunes video file would be really nice.
)Not really. USB microphones usually have terrible latency. Your voice would not synchronize well to the recorded audio. You'd hate the result.ClimbingTheLog said:A wireless Mic (white plastic, of course) would be a good use for the USB port on the
A cheap mixer, attached to the audio-outputs, would give much better results. Perhaps something like this but in white plastic (to make the iFolks happy.)
Lyrics are good. Sometimes, I know the lyrics but not the name of a song so searching would help. I totally agree w/ the timed lyrics so you can do Karaoke in Front Row/ TV. Hopefully, this well be like "Get Missing Album Artwork". Hopefully, movies & TV shows would get scripts, too.
TV. Hopefully, this well be like "Get Missing Album Artwork". Hopefully, movies & TV shows would get scripts, too.
Yet another licensing association
ASCAP controls the licensing of lyrics (I think). I do know that churches have to get a license from CCLI to publish lyrics (in bulletins or other handouts) for songs that aren't in their hymnals, usually for contemporary songs. So when I read that the multitude of widgets out there supplying lyrics were being targeted, I wasn't surprised.
'Bout time. I never did understand why it was such a big deal to pull the lyrics for a song. I can purchase the song, but actually understanding what they are saying? That's another matter....
ASCAP controls the licensing of lyrics (I think). I do know that churches have to get a license from CCLI to publish lyrics (in bulletins or other handouts) for songs that aren't in their hymnals, usually for contemporary songs. So when I read that the multitude of widgets out there supplying lyrics were being targeted, I wasn't surprised.
You Can Already Do This Manually
You can already easily find lyrics or songs by Googling lyrics or searching at Lyrics.com. Just copy & paste in the Lyrics pane.
Just tried Yahoo!'s lyrics service-it doesn't allow you to copy the lyrics-say into iTunes.
Basically to save the lyrics-you have to drag into a image editor and save it as a JPG.
No text/iTunes suitable version availablr.
Basically to save the lyrics-you have to drag into a image editor and save it as a JPG.
No text/iTunes suitable version availablr.
I really don't see the point to this. but i guess it gives added value to a song purchase.(?)
it's better when you make up words anyway.
it's better when you make up words anyway.
I like what you said there.
But what does the lyrics pane actually DO. Oh I know, the lyrics put on there take up HD Space!!Yay!! 'Cos the lyrics don't slide across the scree when the song is playing, do they?
Go to youtube and search for "wishmaster" there. The first video (3,000,000+ views) is making them up and it's really more fun that way
I have to say I don't get this discussion at all. What I think is missing from getting music online, iTunes or otherwise, isn';t a lyric sheet, but liner notes. The information the artist(s) wanted to accompany the work. It's a lost art form in many cases (not all thankfully, lots of artists still do this) but it's integral to the way I always enjoyed/learned about music. It was a place to hear what the artist had to say about the recording. A place to find out what musicians played on what tracks. Often, the back of albums, would 'illustrate' the album with photographs or illustrations that became a part of the experience. And yes, lyrics as well sometimes. Am I just showing my age?
They could add the white bouncing ball or apple logo feature above the lyrics text to sing along to. I can see it now.
I think that is great, when you buy an itunes song it comes downloaded with cover art, lyrics, and drm free. now that is what capitalism is all about.
Agreed. Perhaps iTunes can simply attach PDF data to downloads, much like how they attach artwork today. This would allow customers to view or print liner notes (with or without lyrics) as they see fit. And unlike a plain-text download, this will allow all of the artwork and other interesting stuff that albums often contain.
I admit it. I am a legitimate hater of karaoke. But doesn't this raise some licensing issue for those using it in a commercial setting, say a bar? Or does Apple set aside that issue on their licensing agreements?
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