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wildmac

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Jun 13, 2003
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The GPU prices(and the upgrade options in general) are actually not bad, but those CPUs cost as much as a decent used car. Goodness gracious. Then again, this isn't consumer level hardware. Even as an engineer, I don't think I'll ever need something as powerful as this, unless I start doing 3D stuff I guess.

Really, if you have looked at MacPros in the past, the starting price has almost always been $2500+ and these prices for the upgrades are in line with what they've done in the past.

No surprises here at all really.
 

AndyUnderscoreR

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Jul 11, 2008
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I mostly want to know if I can get the 12 core without the D700s.
I'll live with minimal ram while I am paying down the purchase.
Also while prices for bleeding edge ram come down!
It'd be nice to know how upgradeable or not the flash drive is. I might wait a month or so to see if OWC has a more cost effective path to get 1TB of flash storage.

Apple is really pushing developers to offload processor intensive tasks to the graphics cards with this machine. Are you 100% sure that the software you need 12 cores for will not make that jump during the life of this computer?
 

wildmac

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Jun 13, 2003
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I think most of the people who are complaining about the price don't really have a grasp on what the actual components are that go into these bad boys. I had a friend show me how he could build a comparable machine for much less and he chose an i7 processor and standard RAM modules, etc..

So much this.

The really funny part is that a loaded 27" iMac or RMBP is only about $300 less than the base model of the nMP, but the prices are somehow a shock.

These aren't base model Macbooks.
 

Spinland

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Jul 16, 2011
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The really funny part is that a loaded 27" iMac or RMBP is only about $300 less than the base model of the nMP, but the prices are somehow a shock.

And this. For fun I spec'd out a fully-loaded 27" iMac and even with my discount it came to just under $3800, only $200 less than the 6 core base rMP and $800 more than the quad core version. These prices are not out of line at all.
 

prowlmedia

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lkrupp

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Put Up or Shut Up

I guess it’s time for the “Apple is evil because it uses Chinese slave labor” crowd to put up or shut up and buy an American assembled Mac Pro.
 

thekev

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True, but keep in mind that two FirePro W9000s (which seem to be the equivalent to Apple's D700) already cost a lot more than a 6-core Mac Pro + the D700 upgrade.

Workstation-class hardware is much more expensive than consumer hardware. And yes: It's overpriced. From every vendor.

They don't match up perfectly. They're also close to 7970s, which did have a 6GB version. It wasn't cheap, but it wasn't thousands of dollars. As I mentioned it may be more of an issue of branding than anything here. If they were going to charge W9000 pricing, it would be called a W9000.
 

spaz8

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Mar 3, 2007
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Did I miss it but what is the cost to take the D300 to D500?

I think its about $500.

The Quad to the Hex base model is $1000.. subtract the cost of the 4gb of ram and the processor upgrade you get between $500-600.
 

wildmac

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Jun 13, 2003
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They don't match up perfectly. They're also close to 7970s, which did have a 6GB version. It wasn't cheap, but it wasn't thousands of dollars. As I mentioned it may be more of an issue of branding than anything here. If they were going to charge W9000 pricing, it would be called a W9000.

And... we haven't seen performance tests with the new cards yet.
 

stukick

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Best part is, they don't even include a mouse or a keyboard for those prices.
 

petsounds

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Jun 30, 2007
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Not me. This is about right price for workstations, and similar to prices of previous Mac Pros and other workstation vendors like HP.

The BTO upgrade prices aren't surprising, but the base price is almost a $1000 more than I remember my 2008 Mac Pro being. Perhaps this is related to American manufacturing versus Chinese, or costs associated with the new design, but it does seem to be more expensive.
 

osx11

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Jan 16, 2011
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I just want a computer that's faster than a Mac Mini and which has a video card that I can upgrade myself when faster ones come out. I don't need a $3K powerhouse.

Also I don't want an iMac since I don't want to re-buy a monitor whenever I upgrade my computer.

Apparently I'm alone in this, since Apple offers no such computer.

What kind of work do you on your Macs?
 

naborneo

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Dec 21, 2011
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I really wish it had a Nvida/CUDA version. That's the only thing that is making me question this upgrade.
...Maybe Siverstone will finally come out with that GPU thunderbolt dock...
 

bigjohn

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Lucky for me, I've devolved from shooting my P2 camera to GoPro.
Also lucky that my current MacPro (2009 vintage) serves just fine... for now.

How much would I (have to) spend on Thunderbolt drives to replace the 16TB internal I have now? lol
Another $2000 to OWC!
 
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jayducharme

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I'm glad more specifics are emerging. Now if they'd only make the darn computers available! It really is looking like they won't ship until January at the earliest.

I'm fairly happy with the $300 upgrade to 512 gb of storage. I can't understand, though, how Apple can think it's remotely acceptable for a "pro" computer to have 256 gb of storage as stock. That's pretty much unusable. I can only assume assume Apple expects you to store the bulk of your data on external drives and use the system drive solely for the OS and apps.
 

toby00001

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Aug 24, 2012
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These prices are very reasonable. My Dell workstation (T7610) cost my office $12,216 before tax, and with a HEAVY corporate discount.

$9,999 for a fully loaded MP is a steal. *sigh* I wish my company used Macs. I'd have one of those sitting on my desk instead of something the size of a house.
 

Doug Dolde

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Dec 16, 2013
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I'm thinking a 256 GB flash drive is enough for apps. I'll need an external drive for storage anyway (Pegasus J4) sowhat's the point of going bigger? 32 GB of ram sounds like a nice number though. I remember programming an IBM 360 that had 32 K of ram :). They called it "core memory" That makes OLD lol
 

WestonHarvey1

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I really wish it had a Nvida/CUDA version. That's the only thing that is making me question this upgrade.
...Maybe Siverstone will finally come out with that GPU thunderbolt dock...

Considering the whole point of the AMD choice is to kill CUDA the way iOS killed Flash, no.
 

apolloa

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Hmm pretty useless pricing for me as I'm in the UK. But I gotta say the graphics upgrade price is a steal! Makes more sense to buy that and then update the SSD later.

Edit: ah no, I see this entire report has been made up by the Mac Rumors staff and is nothing more then 'educated guess work' at best. So I'll ignore the pricing quoted on here.
 

Akjohn3

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Dec 16, 2013
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Talked to my sales guy at the Apple store who did some digging. Here's the prices he gave me:

Just got some info from my local Business apple connection on the new Mac Pro:

The 6-core, 16GB, 1TB, D500 machine is $4559.

The 256SSD, 6-core, D700, 16GB RAM would be $4369 (+tax).

The 512SSD, 6-core, D700, 16GB RAM would be $4654 (+tax).

There is also a 8 core (+$1425) or 12 core (+$2850) available.

I think the 512 D700 is the sweet spot for me. Putting my money on things that can't be upgraded. Maybe even do 256 instead of 512 and then upgrade when a 2tb flash drive is available in a bit. Minimum ram for now.


Cheers! Race to see who gets theirs first.
 
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