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Macbook PRO needs a name change "Consumer"
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The way I see it the 17" is apple's last chance at putting out a new notebook that is actually a pro notebook, less ports and making the screen shiny shouldn't be an upgrade on a pro machine, forget the spec bumps, those were gonna happen whether the case was redesigned or not.
To be a pro machine and actually feel like an upgrade to professionals the 17" needs/should have:
-Matte/antiglare option
-a firewire 400 port alongside the 800 or just 2 800 ports.
-an esata port.
-a graphics chip that can actually make use of more than 256mb of vram, the 9600m gt does come in 512mb, but it's only got 128-bit memory, so really it can only use 256mb of the vram. The 17" should have a higher model gpu that has a 256-bit memory interface.
-bluray option for archiving atleast, even if you can't license movie watching yet.
To be a pro machine and actually feel like an upgrade to professionals the 17" needs/should have:
-Matte/antiglare option
-a firewire 400 port alongside the 800 or just 2 800 ports.
-an esata port.
-a graphics chip that can actually make use of more than 256mb of vram, the 9600m gt does come in 512mb, but it's only got 128-bit memory, so really it can only use 256mb of the vram. The 17" should have a higher model gpu that has a 256-bit memory interface.
-bluray option for archiving atleast, even if you can't license movie watching yet.
Pretty sure you are missing the point:
PRO means: PRO Apps, MacPRO and Macbook PRO.
Consumer has no PRO in name: iMac, Macbook, Mac mini.
Oh well, the new designs are here to stay and for a loooooong time. Those peeps with the older mbp will be set to change to a newer model sooner or later. love it or hate it, it's here to stay
Nah... I'll be keeping my MBP till the key's start falling off or the plastic detached itself from the alu. It's not the main machine, that's another beast entirely!!
I'm not missing the point. PRO means what? Professional? A doctor is a professional. An accountant is a professional. A school teacher is a professional. A heavyweight boxer is a professional. Neither you nor Apple has attempted to define what is or isn't professional.
The name is meaningless. I don't care if they call it an Apple SuperGizmotron 3a2Y, as long as it does what I need it to do. If it doesn't, I buy something that does. All this uproar about a marketing name is ridiculous. Apple has made NO claims that the MBP meets any professional-level (whatever THAT is!) specifications.
It's all in the semantics. By your definition then there is no "Pro" in the normal sense of the word, machine for portable computer and then it is a problem in my eyes.
then how come the first image of a macbook pro on the new macbook pro page is one running final cut pro, a pro application, used by professionals, for work on professional production in the world of professional video?
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
Color calibration on a laptop screen, are you serious? When you need real color calibration, you hook it up to a CRT.
Hopefully next time Apple updates the Macbook Pro they will over more firewire ports I hope with a split bus.
I think the new Nvidia boards is what maybe caused the lack of ports.
Same thing happened when apple started using intel chipsets, but after the next update all the ports were back.
I think the new Nvidia boards is what maybe caused the lack of ports.
Same thing happened when apple started using intel chipsets, but after the next update all the ports were back.
+1. I never thought I'd see the day when the MBP wasn't any more attractive than the MB, but along came 10/14/08.
Oh boy... my friend will be pissed when he comes back from holiday to find this! He absolutely *hates* glossy screens... He's been waiting to buy a new MB or MBP for some time now, and was waiting for the October refresh rumours, just to find this is what Apple released.
Yea, the new MacBook Pros has lost their money-no-object, specify-to-your-needs position. Back to Dell then?
Yea, the new MacBook Pros has lost their money-no-object, specify-to-your-needs position. Back to Dell then?
I guess your right Final Cut "Pro" is only for teenyboppers to make videos to post on their friends myspace pages too.
The two issues are the glossy-only screen and the lost Firewire port.
First of all, Firewire 800 is completely backwards compatible with Firewire 400. It has the 6 Firewire 400 pins, plus 3 more. The previous-generation MBP had a single Firewire bus, with an internal hub driving the two external ports. You will not see any performance difference between the previous MBP with the internal hub, and the new MBP with an external hub.
Regarding the glossy screen, the only valid complaint here is a personal preference issue regarding the glare. No one who cares as much about color as these so-called professionals claim to is going to do color-critical work on a 6-bit laptop LCD. And most of the people whining about color are just wannabes who think that having top-of-the-line equipment will compensate for their lack of talent.
First of all, Firewire 800 is completely backwards compatible with Firewire 400. It has the 6 Firewire 400 pins, plus 3 more. The previous-generation MBP had a single Firewire bus, with an internal hub driving the two external ports. You will not see any performance difference between the previous MBP with the internal hub, and the new MBP with an external hub.
Regarding the glossy screen, the only valid complaint here is a personal preference issue regarding the glare. No one who cares as much about color as these so-called professionals claim to is going to do color-critical work on a 6-bit laptop LCD. And most of the people whining about color are just wannabes who think that having top-of-the-line equipment will compensate for their lack of talent.
Exactly. Apple is also comparing the products to itself, not to the competition. So compared to the Macbook, this is a pro machine.
What competition?
Most Video,Audio,Photo, and Graphic Design Pros only use Macintosh software.
Apple calls it's Creative programs Pro Apps, the Pro computers are for the people that run those Apps, consumers have the Macbook and iMac.
Creative Pro's have the Mac Pro and the Macbook Pro....... If you are just going to use these computers for internet and word processing and the like your either really rich or really stupid.... or both.
I guess Apple Marketing decided that the name "MacBook Gimp" was too difficult to market.
I guess the name "MacBook Pro" will have to stay. *shrugs shoulders*
I guess the name "MacBook Pro" will have to stay. *shrugs shoulders*
MacBook NotSoPro
Given the much beefier specs that exist on some PC notebooks, I have a hard time swallowing that this new MBP is all the muscle that Apple can muster.
Given the much beefier specs that exist on some PC notebooks, I have a hard time swallowing that this new MBP is all the muscle that Apple can muster.
You do seem to be missing the point that Apple has traditionally been a leader in professional creative fields and helped usher in the 'desktop revolution' in everything from publishing to filmmaking. It's not unreasonable for professionals in these fields to take issue w/what they see as short comings in Apple's top of the line laptop.
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