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redheeler

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Square avatars would be nice :)

I agree, the circular avatars are NOT an aesthetic improvement. And, as I expected, mine looks just like this:

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Gwendolini

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Wow, looks good.

One minor nitpick:

It would be nice to see the subforums for Visual Media and Community Discussion just like one can see the Mac and iOS related subforums.

One less click.

Maybe it can expand via hovering over the section. Don't know.


I also miss the forum jump functionality. Am I blind or is it really missing?
 

grahamperrin

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Quick navigation menu (inverted tree icon, dialogue)

… forum jump …

At http://xenforums.macrumors.com/forums/site-and-forum-feedback.66/ for example there's a small inverted tree icon. Click to reveal a quick navigation menu.

That dialogue may be not good from an accessibility perspective. For example, in Safari: Tab and Option-Tab do not quickly navigate the dialogue.

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http://xenforums.macrumors.com/misc/quick-navigation-menu is more keyboard friendly, maybe more accessible, but I don't know whether there's an obvious route to that URL.
 

arn

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Thanks for feedback all...

First impressions …

At http://xenforums.macrumors.com/categories/os-x.182/ I'd prefer immediately visible titles of sub-forums – without the need to point.

Ya, this is a bug.

http://xenforums.macrumors.com/misc/quick-navigation-menu?selected=node-182 the order of things within some subsections could be better. Alphabetical, wherever it makes sense. And where things are in chronological/release order (e.g. 10.8, 10.9, 10.10, 10.11) it'll make sense to present in that order; not reverse chronological.

Also will be fixed

The option to perform an advanced search should be more intuitive and involve fewer clicks.

There was a Search in the menu bar that would take you directly to advanced search, but I removed it as it seemed redundant, but can add it back if it's better.]

Also see pictures within threads need to be clicked to made a decent visible size. example show off your watch
http://xenforums.macrumors.com/threads/show-off-your-watch.1872015/page-70

Yep, agree. Attachments are too small right now.

User CP which is so usable on this site is now gush on the new one. What are we to use watched threads? its a mess. Cant see whats been updated, need to hover to make last page visible.

Can you be more specific?

I imagine the typical options will all be there before launch time, like Quick Links? I see "Spy" is there now, but nothing else. I'm one of those who always hits "Today's Posts," so that's a must have.

If you login, you'll see more options.

arn
 

arn

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No, the last time I changed it was months ago.

Are you talking about this login prompt? For this, you have to use "june" and "superman"
 

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arn

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No, I am talking about logging in to post.

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It doesn't take my password even though it's the same one I've been using on VB for a while.

Hmm... that's concerning. I'll change your password an pm it to you here.

arn
 

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yg17

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I'm not crazy about the main forum page layout, not being able to see last post details. Is that just how it is or is it a user modifiable preference?
 

arn

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I'm not crazy about the main forum page layout, not being able to see last post details. Is that just how it is or is it a user modifiable preference?

That's not a user preference. The reasoning was that the forums move so fast that it didn't seem that useful. I can understand for subforums, but did you use it on main forums too?

arn
 

grahamperrin

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Many thanks for the responses and open discussion.

There's much to like/praise but for now, I'll concentrate on problems and enhancement requests.

Social icon ambiguities

Icons for Facebook, Twitter and Google+ appear four times.

If the third level (not for sharing) is to remain, then top level icons for all three will be redundant.

At that third level, duplication is a known issue.

Neither the second nor the third level presents a push icon. Broader push options would be a very welcome addition to the forum.

I suggest abandoning the first level approach to contact details. Instead, links to http://www.facebook.com/MacRumors http://twitter.com/MacRumors and https://plus.google.com/+macrumors/posts may be placed at the top of the generic footer of the site (not of the forum). It's normal and acceptable to find contact details in footers; compare with, for example, http://www.apple.com where Apple chooses to write 'Contact us' at bottom right of the screen.

Placement of contact details in the generic footer need not detract from the tradition of readers offering tips.

It's somewhat counterintuitive to present the share icons (currently second level) beneath the four (or more) topics of similarity. I suggest elevating the three share icons to near the top of the forum content area, below the generic header of the site. Ideally the options to share the topic should be as close as possible to the title of the topic.

Forum home page design: misleading home icon

I expect any home icon to take me to the home page of the site, in this case https://www.macrumors.com/

Something other than the generic home icon should be given for the forum home.

User preferences: forum home page layout

At http://xenforums.macrumors.com the sections that I collapsed a few hours ago are expanded (following a restart of my Mac). This user preference should be persistent.

User preferences: Spy

If there is an interface, it's not obvious.

(It was whilst seeking the UI to preferences for Spy that I experimentally clicked on the inverted tree icon.)

If there will not be user preferences for Spy, then the RECENT THREADS portlet at http://xenforums.macrumors.com will be somewhat redundant.

Volatile up and down arrows

I agree that the volatile redness can be annoying. It assumes that the user's pointer is at, or near, the bottom right of the screen; that assumption may be more often false than true.

On devices without touch screens, it appears to be a touch-oriented intrusion; not responsive design.

Volatile blink-like refresh progress indicator

The first attachment to this post (2015-05-18 21-15-46 screenshot) may appear contrived, but it's not. Very soon after I began testing I was annoyed by frequent, repeated appearance and disappearance of an animated grey blob. (As annoying as blinking text, or an animated advertisement.)

That was probably part of Spy in a background window. If the refresh indicator must be animated, then please don't present it in the dark disappearing rectangle that contrasts with the pale background.

Adobe Flash content?

Second screenshot. That Flash-related prompt appeared whilst a relaunch of my browser reopened many tabs, some of which are not in the macrumors.com domain, so it's possible/likely that the content is unrelated to MacRumors. (Normally I'd check page sources before posting but I'm in a bit of a rush so I'll throw it in now. Apologies if it causes unnecessary alarm.)

Elasticity

Please :)

The fixed width is not a showstopper, but whilst undergoing this major change you might consider allowing a more flexible layout that can make use of (small or large) widescreen.

Generally

When I first browsed https://xenforo.com/community/ a few months ago I was delighted by the prospect of MacRumors using a comparable interface.

Some of what I loved about those first impressions is not (yet) evident in this first open test phase for MacRumors. I can be more specific about what I'd like to shine through, but it might be better to see how other things shape up before offering those specifics.


Postscript, 2015-05-31, pre-final migration

> …what I'd like to shine through …

I expect the following post to disappear from the test area, or lose referential integrity, so for posterity:

Now's a good time to say: it's shining, outstandingly good. The bugs are not a detraction.
Overall impression:
  • the past two weeks have visibly shaped this test area into something that was extraordinarily well thought-out beforehand.
 

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Zxxv

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Volatile up and down arrows

I agree that the volatile redness can be annoying. It assumes that the user's pointer is at, or near, the bottom right of the screen; that assumption may be more often false than true.

On devices without touch screens, it appears to be a touch-oriented intrusion; not responsive design.

ouch this is so jarring as it makes my eyes jump to it :( I know I'm going up and down, why? eh cause its like turning a steering wheel in a car, you kinda know where you're going :)

Elasticity

Please :)

The fixed width is not a showstopper, but whilst undergoing this major change you might consider allowing a more flexible layout that can make use of (small or large) widescreen.

This times two :) the forum design (not by you but the programers) is just another kick in the teeth to non touch based computers. I see it everywhere. A total waste of screen Realestate :( seems designed for iPads and iPhones

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Can you be more specific?

arn

User CP on here shows only updated topics unless I click - View all subscribed threads .

The other forum shows topics that I know I've read. Also don't like the hover to show page numbers as it adds another unnecessary step to the interaction.
Also looks more busy and mushy for want of a better word. Also no mange subscription check box/function.

For a User Control panel i'd like the control to be there :) but I see you relabelled it - watched threads.




edit - did you update it or was it just such a visual mind **** that I couldn't see it? the subscription etc is on the left now jumbled in with the topic title.


edit 2 - hmm switching back between them I still prefer the way this forum handles User CP over Watched Threads on the new forum. Clicking User CP shows me any new replied to topics. If none are there liking Show All shows me just that, all of them.

Doing the same on the new forum shows me a mix mash of read and unread with no logical order like on here with many topics missing that I see on here.

I just prefer the way this forum works (and looks :) for now)
 
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Volatile up and down arrows

I agree that the volatile redness can be annoying. It assumes that the user's pointer is at, or near, the bottom right of the screen; that assumption may be more often false than true.

On devices without touch screens, it appears to be a touch-oriented intrusion; not responsive design.

I don't like those either and have already added

Code:
#uix_jumpToFixed {
  display: none !important;
}

to my user style sheet :p
 
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zhenya

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Thread rendering on IE 11 is not working properly. Elements are all over the place.

I can't say I'm a fan of all the white space. The current design is great because the contrast on the page provides for obvious logical separation between elements. I know that minimalism and white is the current trend in web and software design, but we're now several years into the trend, and I think the current Macrumors theme still looks better while also being more user friendly.
 
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Zxxv

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I can't say I'm a fan of all the white space. The current design is great because the contrast on the page provides for obvious logical separation between elements. I know that minimalism and white is the current trend in web and software design, but we're now several years into the trend, and I think the current Macrumors theme still looks better while also being more user friendly.

what he said :):):)
 
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