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Zetaprime

macrumors 65816
Dec 4, 2011
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When one person blows problem like this out of proportion, another (normal ordinary user) person get panicky, the impression they get is that Apple is not secured anymore ("what should I do, will the patch coming quickly, I am scared"), whereas such things are further from the truth. My point is, not everything is black and white. Apple will fix this, but they also have priority. If a person (might be stupid enough) opened the door to invite such threat, everyone thought they are too vulnerable to this. That is simply not true.


It didn't scare me at all because I worked it out pretty quickly as being something that has very little to no likelihood of affecting me.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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It didn't scare me at all because I worked it out pretty quickly as being something that has very little to no likelihood of affecting me.
Doesn't seem like that was aimed at you as much as it was a general statement.
 

samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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Didn't take it personally, just commenting on it as there are probably many more who saw it for what it was and were unperturbed as I was.

Doesn't matter really thought. There will be enough people who hear about this if the news goes widespread and stress about it. Apple's PR team has been quite busy. I don't think this is a code red by any stretch, but again - I find it odd that some in this thread are implying there's little to no need for Apple to fix it.
 

tys

macrumors 6502
Jan 3, 2008
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95% of ios users are safe.

The only way you can get affected by this is by installing an enterprise provisioning profile

Sorry if I missed something, but....
Couldn't one of these find it's way into Cydia?
I do jailbreak and install apps outside of the App Store, but usually stick to the default repos.
I'd never even heard of enterprise provisioning before. Sounds like something out of Star Trek ;-)
 

mercuryjones

macrumors 6502a
May 31, 2005
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College Station, TX
Sorry if I missed something, but....
Couldn't one of these find it's way into Cydia?
I do jailbreak and install apps outside of the App Store, but usually stick to the default repos.
I'd never even heard of enterprise provisioning before. Sounds like something out of Star Trek ;-)

If you jailbreak, you are pretty much already outside the Apple store, so you've taken security into your own hands at that point.
 

tys

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Jan 3, 2008
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If you jailbreak, you are pretty much already outside the Apple store, so you've taken security into your own hands at that point.

That's what I've always figured, but folks keep saying that this is only an issue with enterprise provisioning.
Is there a way to check to see if I've been "infected"?
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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That's what I've always figured, but folks keep saying that this is only an issue with enterprise provisioning.
Is there a way to check to see if I've been "infected"?
Not really. You can probably see if you have any profiles installed (and with iOS 8 that can be somewhat harder than before), but that's more or less it.
 

tys

macrumors 6502
Jan 3, 2008
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Not really. You can probably see if you have any profiles installed (and with iOS 8 that can be somewhat harder than before), but that's more or less it.

So, if /var/mobiledevice/provisioningprofiles is empty, are we in the clear? Or could the gremlins be lurking elsewhere? Or damage possibly already done and they've fled the scene?
I guess I shoud relax and just be careful what I install.
 

Keirasplace

macrumors 601
Aug 6, 2014
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So, if /var/mobiledevice/provisioningprofiles is empty, are we in the clear? Or could the gremlins be lurking elsewhere? Or damage possibly already done and they've fled the scene?
I guess I shoud relax and just be careful what I install.

You could verify the existence of a provisioning profile. I don't think it can be removed/changed without another app being installed, so if there are none you should be safe.

Damage would be that one of your original app got trashed. Could try starting each one and see if they still work.

Though I wonder if they could just themselves into the normal startup process (then, your normal app would still work, you'd just be starting their process too...). If there is no profile, it doesn't matter anyway.

To be extra paranoiac you can simply erase apps and re-download them from iTunes.

You could also get everything from backup, but then you'd have to trust your backup :). BTW, there's a 99.9999% chance you haven't been hit you need to do nothing at all :).
 

henzpwnapple

macrumors regular
Feb 13, 2009
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You're sure that it doesn't need a separate click? Since the profile install doesn't need user input if the certificate is OK, I guess it could get installed at the same and then you'd only need to click twice instead of 3 times.

I'd wait for someone to confirm that first.

But, as I said, it wouldn't matter much anyway, people would click anyway even if the profile had a big warning in bright red letters :).

Ideally, provisioning should probably be turned on by company IT on a phone by phone basis by putting a corporate certificate specific to the phone before being given to the user. A phone should only accept certificates from specific companies or not at all (disable provisioning).

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7 is almost like 8 from a user point of view, so not sure what you're talking about. Elon Musk is a gasbag who is one big bad decision from going bankrupt. Not sure I'd want that at Apple. As for tech, Tesla is much better at marketing itself than at tech...

"Almost liked", yeah, almost but with bugs/worse designs. And most importantly, bugs/design flaws that I couldn't believe it would happen in Apple. Let's point out a couple: 1. Multitasking Gestures fails from sleep on iPad Air 2 (not sure on others); 2. The mistaken shape of the "Delete Photo" dialog appears after clicking the trash can in Camera Roll; 3. Extra troublesome steps to delete photo/video without an option.

More? Google for it.
 
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