I got myself a Otterbox for my iphone 3gs, and all was well...for about 12 hours. I live in Canada, where its known to be cold, and having it on my hip while wearing a winter parka didnt end well for me. I walked to work one morning, and got there without my phone. Find My Iphone to the rescue, and found it in an alley - perfectly fine..yay. The Otterbox's holster/hip mount is crap...and if you read around its not just me that has this problem, its not held in tightly at all. Can anyone suggest a different case, rugged and nice like the otterbox, but clips on the belt in a better way, or a way to mod the otterbox to work better...its sooo nice of a case for what I need it for.