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Net Neutrality Organization Accusing AT&T of Violating FCC Rules With FaceTime Data Plan Requirements
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Wow!!! Is FaceTime available to their Android customers too? Forget Samsung, Apple needs to sue AT&T for offering FaceTime to all their customers via WiFi.
If you have unlimited data, buy your phones and stay off contract. I will never sign another contract with AT&fee.
What I Learned In School
A bully punched me on the playground.
I went to complain to school administrators.
They said the next time he tries anything tell him "if you hit me you'll be in trouble"
He hit me anyway...
Lesson...it takes more than words to stop bullies.
AT&T is a bully and it will take more than some organization saying "bad AT&T" to change anything.
A bully punched me on the playground.
I went to complain to school administrators.
They said the next time he tries anything tell him "if you hit me you'll be in trouble"
He hit me anyway...
Lesson...it takes more than words to stop bullies.
AT&T is a bully and it will take more than some organization saying "bad AT&T" to change anything.
Wow. They act like FaceTime is their gift to us.
"We let them use it on WiFi, and now we give even more access!"
Right. I own my wireless router and time warner provides internet. Not you AT&T.
All I know is that AT&T won't be getting a contract renewal from me this year, no matter how awesome the new iPhone is.
"We let them use it on WiFi, and now we give even more access!"
Right. I own my wireless router and time warner provides internet. Not you AT&T.
All I know is that AT&T won't be getting a contract renewal from me this year, no matter how awesome the new iPhone is.
The reason they are probably doing this is to get all of the AT&T users who are still "grandfathered" on the older unlimited plans to loose those plans by signing up for the new shared one.
That's just sneaky and it deserves to be fought off!
It's just plain rotten of them!
And I'd almost be willing to bet that if you successfully fight them on making Facetime be usable on unlimited plans the unlimited plans will go away.
Therefore they will definitely get rid of the unlimited plans. I guess it's less sneaky and more outright but I prefer them being sneaky and still allowing me a way to keep my unlimited plan.
Easy to Bash AT&T....
....but Apple is complicit in this. By "partnering" with carriers and allowing them to decide what software is allowed to run on their networks, Apple is just as much to blame. AT&T might be the one authorizing your use, but its Apple enabling the controls.
That being said, I'm looking strongly at Verizon for this next upgrade cycle as well.
....but Apple is complicit in this. By "partnering" with carriers and allowing them to decide what software is allowed to run on their networks, Apple is just as much to blame. AT&T might be the one authorizing your use, but its Apple enabling the controls.
That being said, I'm looking strongly at Verizon for this next upgrade cycle as well.
Dude, you have no idea what you're talkign about. No one listen to his advice on this. Ridiculous.
Because you're letting it happen.
In your quest to always stay on the cutting-edge, you're upgrading your phone every year, and re-signing your junk contract.
The answer is to leave AT&T one way or another. Maybe that means not having an iPhone for a while, and joining a small-market cell service with unlimited everything. Maybe it means getting Sprint and waiting an extra year for your contract to expire, and just keep using your old iPhone. Whatever you do, it's up to you to force AT&T to treat their customers better.
Easier said than done, I know. I'm still using a 3GS. My contract is up in a month, and the iPhone 5 is coming out. I don't know where I'm going, but it sure as hell ain't AT&T.
On the FCC site the options for type of complaint are:
1) Transparency/disclosures of network management practices, performance characteristics, and terms and conditions of broadband service
2) Blocking of Internet content, applications, or services
3) Unreasonable discrimination in transmitting network traffic (throttling)
I'm not sure which is more applicable and there is no option for:
4) All of the above. LOL
The reason they do this is because they want more control over how much data is used on their network. By getting families onto these plans they ensure nobody can have unlimited data. They're using FaceTime to push the new plans, not using the new plans to keep FaceTime from competing with them.
Still evil though
Still evil though
What I'm wondering is how many of the "big boys" over at Cupertino are using AT&T as a provider. I bet Scott Forstall never had this problem. Which makes me think.. Do they have a slightly modified OS from the rest of us? OR do they just go ahead and pay more because they can afford to.
I am well aware that AT&T is their best distribution partner, but when is Apple going to stand up and voice on our behalf? It upsets me so much that it's us vs. AT&T and nobody steps in to fight this injustice with us.
Let's face it.. Alone, this conversation will last a little bit, and then fade away.. And we'll just have to live with no Facetime over 3G. But if Apple were to put the PR machine into full effect, this would be an all drawn battle which might make AT&T think twice about this.
I'm just saying... Where's the cavalry??
BTW, I have an unlimited data plan with two iPhones, as I purchased the #G back in October of 2008.
I am well aware that AT&T is their best distribution partner, but when is Apple going to stand up and voice on our behalf? It upsets me so much that it's us vs. AT&T and nobody steps in to fight this injustice with us.
Let's face it.. Alone, this conversation will last a little bit, and then fade away.. And we'll just have to live with no Facetime over 3G. But if Apple were to put the PR machine into full effect, this would be an all drawn battle which might make AT&T think twice about this.
I'm just saying... Where's the cavalry??
BTW, I have an unlimited data plan with two iPhones, as I purchased the #G back in October of 2008.
Well they are violating something. Like charging us for data and then charging again to use features available on our phones.
Crazy
Crazy
The cell providers are working to keep us in the past and away from TCP/IP. VoIP is their nightmare. I know I sound like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists you see around "9/11 was fake" videos on YouTube, but it's clear what they are doing here. They want to keep charging extra for text messages and audio.
People here should be freaking out more over SMS, their way of charging us ridiculous amounts of money for text messages, than over their war on VoIP. SMS is what they are doing here but much, much, much, much worse and for text instead of AV.
People here should be freaking out more over SMS, their way of charging us ridiculous amounts of money for text messages, than over their war on VoIP. SMS is what they are doing here but much, much, much, much worse and for text instead of AV.
That PR statement is the epitome of carrier shadiness. Hey! Let's remind users that the all mighty AT&T allows them to use wifi! We are so kind, y'know!
It's greedy not bandwith!
Do you really believe the lies that these companies were saying that the bandwith cannot keep up with the demand. In other countries this is a non-issue, they don't even charge for tethering. Some third world countries don't charge incoming text messages, 8 years ago international text messages is part of your text messaging plan. Now they charge $.25 per outgoing international text messages. These US providers are the most greedy companies and they are dragging us. They are the reason why US is behind when it comes internet speed compared to some Asian and European countries.
Do you really believe the lies that these companies were saying that the bandwith cannot keep up with the demand. In other countries this is a non-issue, they don't even charge for tethering. Some third world countries don't charge incoming text messages, 8 years ago international text messages is part of your text messaging plan. Now they charge $.25 per outgoing international text messages. These US providers are the most greedy companies and they are dragging us. They are the reason why US is behind when it comes internet speed compared to some Asian and European countries.