Problems with 26.5 memory management changes on a 2TB M4 iPadPro with 16 GB

[rjjacobson]

I am curious, back in the day of beta testing 18.x on my new M4 2TB IPad Pro (13 inch) I got memory management errors of memory going, and I had to keep Device Manger in live notification mode so it caught this and let me refresh memory mostly wideout needing reboot. It disapeared near end of 18 beta and was fine through all o 18.x regular and all of 26.0 to 26.4. But it came roaring back with 26.5 official on my same M4 iPad Pro 2 TB with 16 GB ram. So now again sometimes hourly i go from 2-3 GB free to almost nothing and of course device manager warns me and I let it free the ram. Otherwise apps start to get flaky and miss behaving or not working well wiht out a full reboot. A full reboot will for awhile get me to about 60 percent used, but the iPad eventually settles at 70 -80 percent used which is what has been normal with memory management and such on this M4 iPad Pro with 16 GB ram. I have read that apple has restricted how much ram a newly loaded app will now get in the memory management changes in 26.5. And this seems to correlate with this annoyance coming back. Anyone else with M4 and other ipads with 16 GB of ram seeing this? I suspect there are some apps that are not doing well with this memory management changes like the ipadOS Facebook and Discord apps I have on a lot. I am on Safari a lot also and it uses a ton of ram but it eventually gives it back after I quit but not always. Curious what the issue is. Thanks

 

[!!!]

Device Manger

Are you trying to run Windows? This is a forum about iOS.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

I am curious, back in the day of beta testing 18.x on my new M4 2TB IPad Pro (13 inch) I got memory management errors of memory going, and I had to keep Device Manger in live notification mode so it caught this and let me refresh memory mostly wideout needing reboot. It disapeared near end of 18 beta and was fine through all o 18.x regular and all of 26.0 to 26.4. But it came roaring back with 26.5 official on my same M4 iPad Pro 2 TB with 16 GB ram. So now again sometimes hourly i go from 2-3 GB free to almost nothing and of course device manager warns me and I let it free the ram. Otherwise apps start to get flaky and miss behaving or not working well wiht out a full reboot. A full reboot will for awhile get me to about 60 percent used, but the iPad eventually settles at 70 -80 percent used which is what has been normal with memory management and such on this M4 iPad Pro with 16 GB ram. I have read that apple has restricted how much ram a newly loaded app will now get in the memory management changes in 26.5. And this seems to correlate with this annoyance coming back. Anyone else with M4 and other ipads with 16 GB of ram seeing this? I suspect there are some apps that are not doing well with this memory management changes like the ipadOS Facebook and Discord apps I have on a lot. I am on Safari a lot also and it uses a ton of ram but it eventually gives it back after I quit but not always. Curious what the issue is. Thanks

It literally warns you with a pop up window that you are low on RAM? On an iPad Pro? And the app is Device Manager? I am so confused. Did you hit CTRL+ALT+DELETE to see it? (I am kidding, but we are going to need more details.)

 

[rjjacobson]

It literally warns you with a pop up window that you are low on RAM? On an iPad Pro? And the app is Device Manager? I am so confused. Did you hit CTRL+ALT+DELETE to see it? (I am kidding, but we are going to need more details.)

I used wrong name I am using third party app on iPadOS called Device Monitor that keeps track of memory use. It seems like with 26.5 the amount of memory used has gone up. I am now runnng device monitor as a widget where I can see the ram available before I get the warning notification and when it gets in middle 90’s I will click on the widget and it cleans the ram usually getting me back to upper 70’s to lower 80 percent

 

[rjjacobson]

It literally warns you with a pop up window that you are low on RAM? On an iPad Pro? And the app is Device Manager? I am so confused. Did you hit CTRL+ALT+DELETE to see it? (I am kidding, but we are going to need more details.)

The iPad even when I goes to sleep opens up with over 92 percent used quite often FYI also and did not do this with most of 18.x and 26.x

 

[rjjacobson]

It literally warns you with a pop up window that you are low on RAM? On an iPad Pro? And the app is Device Manager? I am so confused. Did you hit CTRL+ALT+DELETE to see it? (I am kidding, but we are going to need more details.)

Now the Device Monitor app just being on Safari on this site shows 96 percent used.

 

[rjjacobson]

I can at least click on the widget and refresh the ram with the Device Monitor app but have not had to to this until 26.5. I had read that 26.5 is using a tighter memory management in terms of what is allowed for each app. And this was part of problem.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

I am not so sure I trust that app.

 

[rjjacobson]

I am not so sure I trust that app.

I have always found it helpful and it was highly recommended from what I have read. Back in beta 18.x testing on this M4 iPad Pro It was helpful as I kept runnng out of memory and needing to reboot and this let me just refresh the memory in app. Towards end of the beta cycle the problem went away and I stopped using it. But then with 26.5 I was starting to see flaky apps not working right, features failing and such that required reboots. It was happening hourly rather than usual experience of weekly that I always found this reboot to be helpful for when apps crash and do not return memory well. Here is the app

 

[eltoslightfoot]

Yeah I got nothing. It really sounds like something is wrong with your iPad.

 

[rjjacobson]

Yeah I got nothing. It really sounds like something is wrong with your iPad.

It seems funny it was fine after early 18.x beta issues of same type and made it through all the 26.x versions until 26.5. Well it is under apple care if this gets worse for now with using Device Monitor app in widget form I can easily “manage” memory and it seems to work ok for now. Thanks for responding

 

[I7guy]

Do you have windowed mode or standing stage manager turned on? If so, turn them off and see if there is a difference.

Also there is a time tested hack of logging out of iCloud…