I'm just hoping they aren't the major disappointment that last year's 6 and 6 Plus were.
Didn't realize from the record sales they were a disappointment.
I'm just hoping they aren't the major disappointment that last year's 6 and 6 Plus were.
I most definitely understand what you're saying. However had the ios8 debacle not happened and they would have included 2GB of RAM the iPhone 6 probably would have beaten the S6 In most benchmarks. It already beats it in some Benchmarks as it is.
Because they increased the sensor size, while keeping the megpix count constant, hence increasing the size of the photosites, which in turn collect more photons at equal exposure times. This results in higher IQ, especially in low light.
If they increase the megpix count, photosite size while decrease accordingly, and affect IQ negatively. In fact should do the smart thing and decrease megpix count.
Never heard of this phone, but that's certainly why DSLRs are worlds better than any phone camera. Why do you think a D4s costs 6.5k$ (without the lens of course) but only has a whopping 16 megpix?Yeah, because we all know how amazing HTC's Ultrapixel camera was...
Never heard of this phone, but that's certainly why DSLRs are worlds better than any phone camera. Why do you think a D4s costs 6.5k$ (without the lens of course) but only has a whopping 16 megpix?
Do you think that both the 4.7 inch and 5.5 inch models will receive the 2GB?
Exactly.I've got an old Canon 1D that is only 4MP and it's lightyears better than my iPhone 6.
Never heard of this phone, but that's certainly why DSLRs are worlds better than any phone camera. Why do you think a D4s costs 6.5k$ (without the lens of course) but only has a whopping 16 megpix?
I was 95% sure that the iPhone 6 would have gotten 2GB with the redesign. So with the iPhone 6S I'm only 75% confident. Apple is very unpredictable when it comes to hardware. It wouldn't surprise me if the 6S gets the same 1GB but I'm leaning towards 2GB.
It wouldn't surprise me either if Apple dropped the 6S gimped with 1GB. I hope not, I'd actually like to consider an iPhone again. However underspec'ed devices are not something that interests me at this stage in the smartphone game. Even if they come from Apple.
Exactly.
And about the RAM:
Why doesn't put ssds in iOS devices and manage the memory similar to Mac OS? You can substitute performance a bit with memory, but the bottleneck is the pathetic NAND storage.
I agree to a certain extent but as iOS advances, it further exposes the bottleneck of the iPhone's performance (RAM). At some point, Apple needs to increase this to allow it to evolve. We've been on 1GB for 3 years now and I think they've milked all they could with their coding to provide a smooth user experience but something's gotta give.
It's not at all a spec war; Apple putting 2GB will be seen as playing catch up since Android phones are typically pushing 3-4GB now. Apple does more with less, we all know this but they still need to increase hardware specs at some point to allow the software to grow.
No, it isn't. Provide a source please.The storage in iphones is pretty fast as it is, especially the larger capacities.
Obviously not the one used in ssds ...What kind of memory do you think they make ssds of?
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/11/...istently-outperforms-ones-tlc-based-nand.htmlIn all the benchmarks ran by them, the MLC NAND equipped iPhone 6 performed consistently faster than the TLC based one. In the Zero filling test, the former averaged a transfer rate of 75MB/sec while the latter averaged at 26MB/sec with a peak transfer rate of 48MB/sec. In the second test, where random data was written to the NANDs — the MLC NAND flash based iPhone 6 reached a peak transfer of 15.7MB/s with a minimum speed of 2.9MB/sec.
No, it isn't. Provide a source please.
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Obviously not the one used in ssds ...
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/11/...istently-outperforms-ones-tlc-based-nand.html
As you can see from my source, iPhone 6 storage architecture blocks signigicantly less RAM than the competitors.
The NAND speed however is nowhere near the ones thpical for ssds. In fact, the old spinning hdds perform better in most situations.
Knowing Apple, it will probably have 1.5GB. And 2 GB next year when iphone 7 comes out.
Knowing Apple, it will probably have 1.5GB. And 2 GB next year when iphone 7 comes out.
Write speed is what's relevant for proper memory mangament.You are quoting only write speed, read speed is higher (about 200MB/s sequential).
I keep telling people that iOS devices are not made for multitasking, but they are not getting it, as can be seen in these dumb threads, where they scream for more ram.But what's the point in using the NAND for swapping memory?
That would make iOS similar to OS X but RAM is faster than the fastest SSD and a single mobile application doesn't need more RAM than the physical RAM available. In iOS you don't run more than one app at a time, you have multitasking but only one frontmost app.
The 'memory management' (if you can even call it that) of iOS is geared towards running only one stable app at a time. It is very obviously not programmed for multitasking. If you want real multitasking, you need a proper ssd and a real OS. (Like on the surface tablets for example).The memory management of iOS is very good for a mobile device, ...
Write speed is what's relevant for proper memory mangament.
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I keep telling people that iOS devices are not made for multitasking, but they are not getting it, as can be seen in these dumb threads, where they scream for more ram.
Let me explain once again:
Yes, only one app runs upfront, but once RAM is used up, apps "on-hold" in the background are force quit. Once makes 2gb standard across the board, apps will be developed in a way that they use more RAM. Then the same thing happens: you switch -> reload. Then threads will come up where people will ask for even more RAM and the cycle begins again ...
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The 'memory management' (if you can even call it that) of iOS is geared towards running only one stable app at a time. It is very obviously not programmed for multitasking. If you want real multitasking, you need a proper ssd and a real OS. (Like on the surface tablets for example).
Since the beginning of computing increasing RAM has been the quick way to help with problems that are actually not really RAM related. The bottleneck on iOS devices is clearly software and storage related. knows this and that is why they will only very, very slowly increase RAM specs.
NAND is used in both, and it's just as fast. Thing is, you can't compare a 256 or 512GB ssd, where data is written onto many chips concurrently by relatively powerful and power hungry triple or quad core controllers, to a 64GB phone where data is written to two/four chips simultaneously, and where saving energy is the priority. Not to mention that writing isn't all that important on a phone; reading is what makes it feel fast.Obviously not the one used in ssds ...
And for a smartphone, we don't even need multitasking in the way it's desired on a PC. Screens on phones are far too small for that to be useful, and I ain't carrying around a 24" monitor to use with my smartphone!