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I like it.

I don't like it but I can cope with the auto-hide toolbar behavior.
I guess I'm still young enough and have propensity to learn things.

What about your parents or 75+ years old grand parents who are not at all computer geeks?

You spent some time teaching them how to use multiple-tabs in iOS Safari browser before but now tabs are auto-hidden in iOS 8 Safari!??

Would you want to see your grand-parents to get confused by disappearing tabs in iOS 8 Safari?

My mom and my grand-parents already voiced dislike of this auto-hide toolbar when I showed them iOS 8 on my iPad.

Basically their responses were:
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[I]What happened to my tabs?[/I]
[I]I have tap on the top to view other tabs??[/I]
[I]Why would Apple make it more difficult to use?[/I]
[I]I want to see immediately what other tabs I have opened at anytime.[/I]
[I]I don't like it.[/I]

Seriously. Old people tend to have problem with short-term memory. They want to be able to glance how many tabs they have opened instead of keeping track of various tabs they have opened in their head.

This is the reason their iPads will continue to run iOS 7 unless Apple make auto-hide toolbar an optional feature in Safari.

And when it's time to upgrade their iPads to something faster and better, will their new tablets be new iPads or Android tablets will most likely determined by Safari's auto-hide toolbar behvaior. (Unless Apple allows users to set different browsers as default browser).

Although I'm a fan of iPad but I definitely don't want to see my parents and grand-parents suffer because of some stupid UI designs that cannot be turned off.

I thought Apple is in the business of designing computers which are easy to use for non-geeks.
 
Anyone else bothered by this.

It bothers me as well.

For example, before when reading threads in a forum, I could simply tap the back arrow to go back. Now I can't do that without first performing the additional step of unhiding the toolbar, which is annoying.
 
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Bothered, amazed, etc. They could've at least given users the choice of turning it off, but no. And don't get me started on what they've done with our photos.

iOS 8 is a flaming hot mess.

Exactly...some love, some hate...why not simply, at the very least, provide a choice?

Edit: btw, I am NOT a fan.
 
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They also moved the bookmark bar from right to left. What kind of idiot comes up with this sort of crap seriously if you have nothing useful to add just LEAVE IT AS IT IS. Idiots.

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Thanks, didn't know there was a tab view. Still they should make auto-hide a feature and let the user chose.

Did that to make it more like Safari on Mac.
 
This constant deflating and enlarging does your head in. The frequent motion hurts eyes and makes you loose focus on web content.

Now I have to double tap to scroll to top. They add these un needed features and ignore the basic ones like better tabs, smoother scrolling.

When you tap on the address bar, I can see keyboard fighting with the interface just to come up. So laggy.

If you scroll fast and suddenly tap address bar, the scrolling becomes laughably jerky. Even basic entry level Android tablets do much better job at it.

The whole Safari experience in iOS 8 is atrocious. The team managing mobile Safari on iPad should immediately be fired and jailed.
 
Well, since they now hide the tab bar when you have only one tab open I would prefer they not auto hide it, but it isn't the end of humanity. I like the new tab view thought it took me a few tries to get how the new private mode works. :eek:
 
Apple desperately wants us to switch to another competent browser.

Just wait for Nitro JavaScript enabled updates to show up for other browsers then start using them.

If memory serves right Apple now allows other browsers to take advantage of Nitro JavaScript from iOS 8.
 
I don't like it but I can cope with the auto-hide toolbar behavior.
I guess I'm still young enough and have propensity to learn things.

What about your parents or 75+ years old grand parents who are not at all computer geeks?

You spent some time teaching them how to use multiple-tabs in iOS Safari browser before but now tabs are auto-hidden in iOS 8 Safari!??

Would you want to see your grand-parents to get confused by disappearing tabs in iOS 8 Safari?

My mom and my grand-parents already voiced dislike of this auto-hide toolbar when I showed them iOS 8 on my iPad.

Basically their responses were:
Code:
[I]What happened to my tabs?[/I]
[I]I have tap on the top to view other tabs??[/I]
[I]Why would Apple make it more difficult to use?[/I]
[I]I want to see immediately what other tabs I have opened at anytime.[/I]
[I]I don't like it.[/I]

Seriously. Old people tend to have problem with short-term memory. They want to be able to glance how many tabs they have opened instead of keeping track of various tabs they have opened in their head.

This is the reason their iPads will continue to run iOS 7 unless Apple make auto-hide toolbar an optional feature in Safari.

And when it's time to upgrade their iPads to something faster and better, will their new tablets be new iPads or Android tablets will most likely determined by Safari's auto-hide toolbar behvaior. (Unless Apple allows users to set different browsers as default browser).

Although I'm a fan of iPad but I definitely don't want to see my parents and grand-parents suffer because of some stupid UI designs that cannot be turned off.

I thought Apple is in the business of designing computers which are easy to use for non-geeks.
Young people tend to have problems with thinking they know what other people think.

This has to be one of the most offensive posts I have ever seen.

Watch your ageist mentality, kid.
 
Add me to the not a fan club

Since iOS 8 I also have 2 other issues.

When I bring up a Google search page the space where you type is often behind the keyboard so I must close the keyboard to see what's been typed

Next when I go back a page, it always goes back to the top of that page. So annoying when I view many threads on a site to have to manually scroll down to where I was when I go back. Sometimes my previously selected link is still highlighted other times it's not

Seems like Apple is trying to get too cute rather than focus on the basics

Rick
 
I LOATHE this new "feature". Not only is it confusing, but I now have to tap twice to do things that I only had to tap once to do previously.

If others like the feature, I certainly have no heartburn with it. Just give us the damned opportunity to turn this garbage off! You know, CHOICE?

Sheesh... :confused:
 
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I LOATHE this new "feature". Not only is it confusing, but I now have to tap twice to do things that I only had to tap once to do previously.

If others like the feature, I certainly have no heartburn with it. Just give us the damned opportunity to turn this garbage off! You know, CHOICE?

Sheesh... :confused:

Amen. It's a complete irritation and slows down the way I browse. I'd like to opt out.:mad:
 
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Wow you guys are miserable. I have no idea how this is so devastating. You could flick up just a little right before you move your eyes up to the top bar? Or just cope with the extremely small amount of time it takes to just tap one extra time. I don't find tapping twice for this that cumbersome. Yes it adds unnecessary steps, but you guys are acting like as you are using your iPad, you wince and cringe, and are devastated whenever you have to tap the top bar.

If you want to move to Android only because you have to tap the screen one more time to seriously *INSTANTLY* get back the URL bar, then go for it. You obviously aren't going to be pleased over there either, because the apps aren't all the same shape or something frivilous like that.

You guys all need to combine forces and bombard Apple with enhancement requests at http://www.apple.com/feedback/. Maybe if enough attention is brough upon it, the "issue" will be corrected, and some toggles will be added under Safari in settings.

This constant deflating and enlarging does your head in. The frequent motion hurts eyes and makes you loose focus on web content.

Now I have to double tap to scroll to top. They add these un needed features and ignore the basic ones like better tabs, smoother scrolling.

When you tap on the address bar, I can see keyboard fighting with the interface just to come up. So laggy.

If you scroll fast and suddenly tap address bar, the scrolling becomes laughably jerky. Even basic entry level Android tablets do much better job at it.

The whole Safari experience in iOS 8 is atrocious. The team managing mobile Safari on iPad should immediately be fired and jailed.

Wow, jailed? Okay then. :rolleyes:

And scrolling is still buttery smooth when I scroll quickly and tap the hidden address bar simultaneously on my retina mini. I don't see any problems there. However, I can see that the keyboard lags quite a bit, but it isn't the worst of lags I have observed on iOS 8.
 
its also extremely laggy for me. i can scroll up and down on a page that has been loaded for 10 minutes, and when i scroll, parts will disappear than reappear. very annoying. and its not smooth, its choppy.
 
its also extremely laggy for me. i can scroll up and down on a page that has been loaded for 10 minutes, and when i scroll, parts will disappear than reappear. very annoying. and its not smooth, its choppy.

What generation iPad do you have? I have a Retina Mini (A smaller iPad Air, has an A7 chip 1GB of RAM) and it is 100% smooth for me. Scrolling in Safari behaves exactly like it did in 7.x.x except with a toolbar that hides, and I actually like that because it was distracting because it was so enormous. Especially when you are in normal browsing mode on a dark webpage, extremely bright toolbar sticking out of a dark page, or when in private browsing, a dark toolbar sticking out of a light page.

Pages load just as fast as they did before for me as well.
 
What generation iPad do you have? I have a Retina Mini (A smaller iPad Air, has an A7 chip 1GB of RAM) and it is 100% smooth for me. Scrolling in Safari behaves exactly like it did in 7.x.x except with a toolbar that hides, and I actually like that because it was distracting because it was so enormous. Especially when you are in normal browsing mode on a dark webpage, extremely bright toolbar sticking out of a dark page, or when in private browsing, a dark toolbar sticking out of a light page.

Pages load just as fast as they did before for me as well.

i have a ipad mini retina 64 gig. going to try to restore and see what happens.
my microphone also isn't working. only works with facetime. very wierd
 
Maybe it's the next implementation of Jony's poor perception of "Less is More".
Sad, I once had high expectations of what he could do with the OS look.

Either way, I'd love to have my tabs visible at all time. So I hate this new behavior. No more Safari for me, I might do my browsing in 1Password or even Notes Plus :D
 
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Add me to the list of people who don't like it.

Adds one more tap to what should be the quick access bookmarks toolbar.

I get that some people like it, but would it kill them to give us an option to turn this feature off?
 
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Wow you guys are miserable. I have no idea how this is so devastating. You could flick up just a little right before you move your eyes up to the top bar? Or just cope with the extremely small amount of time it takes to just tap one extra time. I don't find tapping twice for this that cumbersome. Yes it adds unnecessary steps, but you guys are acting like as you are using your iPad, you wince and cringe, and are devastated whenever you have to tap the top bar.

If you want to move to Android only because you have to tap the screen one more time to seriously *INSTANTLY* get back the URL bar, then go for it. You obviously aren't going to be pleased over there either, because the apps aren't all the same shape or something frivilous like that.

You guys all need to combine forces and bombard Apple with enhancement requests at http://www.apple.com/feedback/. Maybe if enough attention is brough upon it, the "issue" will be corrected, and some toggles will be added under Safari in settings.



Wow, jailed? Okay then. :rolleyes:

And scrolling is still buttery smooth when I scroll quickly and tap the hidden address bar simultaneously on my retina mini. I don't see any problems there. However, I can see that the keyboard lags quite a bit, but it isn't the worst of lags I have observed on iOS 8.

A lot of people use their iPads mainly for web browsing and this new 'feature' makes it freaking annoying. switching between two tabs used to be simple, now its bloody annoying. Its made everything harder to do. Combined with the fact that iOS 8 Safari is slower and buggier it makes a poor browsing experience. Make it a setting and we'll all be happy.

We're all glad you don't find it annoying or whatsoever, but obviously we do so I'm not sure why you felt the need to disagree with us on something you obviously don't care about overly
 
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A lot of people use their iPads mainly for web browsing and this new 'feature' makes it freaking annoying. switching between two tabs used to be simple, now its bloody annoying. Its made everything harder to do. Combined with the fact that iOS 8 Safari is slower and buggier it makes a poor browsing experience. Make it a setting and we'll all be happy.

We're all glad you don't find it annoying or whatsoever, but obviously we do so I'm not sure why you felt the need to disagree with us on something you obviously don't care about overly

I actually went into Settings>Show Tab Bar>Off. Makes it so you can't see the tabs all the time in the top bar but makes them all primarily in the new tab view. Just pinch out into the tab view and tap into the one you want, you don't have to maneuver all the way to the top and tap twice. Personally makes it less annoying, but a little slower.
 
Just installed iOS8.02. Very annoyed with this auto-hide. It's the movement, the swelling and shrinking of the tab-bar when you you move your finger that irritates. So, me too. Should be a choice.
 
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Wow you guys are miserable. I have no idea how this is so devastating. You could flick up just a little right before you move your eyes up to the top bar?

Yes. We all know and have discovered flicking up the currently viewed web page will un-hide the tab bar until you scroll down again but the point is that this new auto-hide behavior is annoying.

Apple is supposedly known for designing easy to use UI.

Is there any reason why users should be forced to spend some extra cognitive effort and do extra tap or flick just to see the tab bar?

At the very least, Apple need to make this auto-hide behavior an optional setting.

I hope Apple does NOT employ people who think "you could flick up just a little" because that may signal the end of their UI design talent.
 
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Yeah, still annoying. It should have auto-hide turned off by default with an option to turn it on. This is the top iOS 8 complaint from the normal, non-techie iPad owners that I know.

While they're at it, I'd like at least an option to turn on the status bar on my iPhone 6 Plus. It's easy to lose track of time while browsing the web without a clock at the top. Also, sometimes my WiFi craps out and I have to reconnect. I don't notice it before clicking on a video. Now I constantly rotate the device to check.

Also give the iPhone 6 Plus a split keyboard option for the love of everything! Don't really care for those extra keys. I'm always accidentally hitting them.
 
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I dont get why the bookmarks bad just stays there after selecting a bookmark? This annoys me more than the toolbar. If I select a bookmark it should close I shouldn't have to click the bookmark icon again to close it, after selecting a website. So annoying.
 
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