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nagromme

macrumors G5
May 2, 2002
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I'm sure there's a way to keep or move the fountain. As an H.R. Giger fan, I can appreciate it.

More importantly, they should level every other building on that block. There! Much nicer now.
 

carlgo

macrumors 68000
Dec 29, 2006
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Monterey CA
If this was a Samsung building everyone would have screamed about how it was cheap looking and cliché and ruined a popular city feature...

Now, if someone would nix the Space Cadet Headquarters...
 

gopnick

macrumors regular
Oct 17, 2007
204
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Humanity's ability to get butthurt over the most insignificant things never ceases to amaze me.
 

AZREOSpecialist

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Mar 15, 2009
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This is what all the fuss is about:

asawa_san_francisco_fountain.jpg


Yes, folks, everyone is up in arms over this incredibly ugly fountain. Are they frickin' serious? And the artist who made this fountain should have his or her credentials revoked!
 

Krazy Bill

macrumors 68030
Dec 21, 2011
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Pummeled by debt they'll never pay... yet another Calif city reveals its "priorities".
 

Rocketman

macrumors 603
MR article said:
The city places distinct emphasis on activating the street-level experience in the pedestrian-oriented Union Square shopping district, and Apple's plans would create a significant gap in that experience.
It would provide a major enhancement to the visual appeal of an eclectic city. It would attract substantial additional foot traffic, something the city values highly. The fountain could simply be moved to a location at the rear of the building where foot traffic could focus on that feature and not interfere with retail operations and tourists.

Rocketman
 

Tones2

macrumors 65816
Jan 8, 2009
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Having an Apple store built in my neighborhood several years back (Chicago north side), I can first hand say this is a hidious piece of archecture. A square building with too much sun-exposed glass that let's the blinding hot sun in most of the day that actually physically makes me dizzy when i walk in there (even the employees complain). From the outside you just too much see bunches of people running around a bland interior on the glass side, and just a stark blank wall on the rest of the building. Not to mention the super bright flourescent lighting streaming out of the windows at night to completely ruin the atmosphere of any surrounding quainter cafe's, outdoor seating areas. This is just visually a horrid design sitting in the middle of a city. It's almost like someone dropped a high school lunchroom cafeteria in the middle of a nice neighborhood. With all of Apple's money, I can't believe they can't conceptually come up with a design that would fit better in a city neighborhood vs a suburban / small town mall, the latter of which building like this was designed for. I love having an Apple store in the city, just not THIS one. I think that's the same point SF is trying to make. Truthfully, I can't imagine why anyone here would defend this design. Jeez...

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Like the fact that Apple's store design is being criticized?

Exactly! You'll never get Apple fans to see the other side of this EVER - i.e. that they do exactly what the criticize from the other side. :)
 
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milo

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Sep 23, 2003
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Glad to hear it. I bet the fountain ends up staying and Apple changes their design so that the side isn't a blank wall.

Yes, the new store will look good there. But that's what the public review process is all about, when people have issues with the plan they can go back and improve it.
 

Mr Fusion

macrumors 6502a
May 7, 2007
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This is what all the fuss is about:

Image

Yes, folks, everyone is up in arms over this incredibly ugly fountain. Are they frickin' serious? And the artist who made this fountain should have his or her credentials revoked!
I too find this fountain to be ugly, but on the other hand it's art so I hold a little respect for it. I say move it to a different set of stairs in one of the city's parks. Problem solved! :D

Having an Apple store built in my neighborhood several years back (Chicago north side), I can first hand say this is a hidious piece of archecture. A square building with too much sun-exposed glass that let's the blinding hot sun in most of the day that actually physically makes me dizzy when i walk in there. From the outside you just too much see bunches of people running around a bland interior on the glass side, and just a stark blank wall on the rest of the building. This is just visually a horrid design sitting in the middle of a city. With all of Apple's money, I can't believe they can't conceptually come up with a design that would fit better in a city neighborhood vs a surburban / small town mall, the latter of which building like this was designed for.
I think at this point, they know it's an ugly building design, but they can't do anything about it because of the brand recognition it draws in.

"Hey look at that ugly gray glass box over there! Must be an Apple Store, let's go..." ;)
 

Tinmania

macrumors 68040
Aug 8, 2011
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Aridzona
Just say, "You know what, you're right, it's gone and I didn't notice because I don't care." - it sounds a lot better to me. A few whiners will feel whiney, but that's the way life works.

Sounds like something Chris Christie would say.

Mike
 
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velocityg4

macrumors 604
Dec 19, 2004
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Georgia
I don't see what all the hubbub is about. The question I have is whether or not Apple owns the property. If they do then knock down whatever they want and build whatever they want. It shouldn't be open to debate.

If they don't own the property then just put it to a vote by the town council and be done with it.
 

Tinmania

macrumors 68040
Aug 8, 2011
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I don't see what all the hubbub is about. The question I have is whether or not Apple owns the property. If they do then knock down whatever they want and build whatever they want. It shouldn't be open to debate.

If they don't own the property then just put it to a vote by the town council and be done with it.
Don't get out of the south much?

Michael
 
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beaniemyman

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May 19, 2013
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This. He either didn't care or didn't think to care, and worst of all hoped nobody would notice.


I had to find a street view of the artist's rendering to get a feel for what all the fuss is about. I see what you mean...
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wow, never seen that place. the rendering is awesome.

i hope these politicians allow apple to build that beautiful store.
 

ArtOfWarfare

macrumors G3
Nov 26, 2007
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Sounds like something Chris Christie would say.

It does. I like him. I also liked Cain and I like both Ron and Rand Paul. But these people generally go down during the primaries which seem to be rigged against ideal candidates.
 

dennno

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Jul 22, 2011
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Exactly! You'll never get Apple fans to see the other side of this EVER - i.e. that they do exactly what the criticize from the other side. :)

Well why would anyone side with that hideous architecture? But my view just like your view on Apple's store design, it's subjective. I personally don't care for the apple store design either.

It's unique, but meh. :rolleyes:
 

carlgo

macrumors 68000
Dec 29, 2006
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Monterey CA
Maybe Ivie needs to be on Apple's design review board. What Jobs thought was futuristic 10 years ago no longer is. It is a terrible design.
 

macs4nw

macrumors 601
Ah, yes. A proposal is made. The public responds. The proposal is re-evaluated based on the public's concerns. All sides are heard.Democracy: What a drag! :rolleyes:

So true! Communism anyone?

Yes, totally reasonable. Who needs a big thick blank wall when the whole store could just be made of solid glass in an earthquake-prone area?.....:rolleyes: Either way, this is stupid. You keep the fountain, and wave goodbye to the commercial activity and jobs that store would bring, and why? So that bums have a place to wash up?

I'm not sure about the fountain, but more glass would, as you noted, not be a good idea for sure. The 80 foot-long blank wall could most definitely be turned into some gorgeous, iconic mural that could even become a tourist attraction and would satisfy most of that criticism.
 

jcb10

macrumors regular
May 14, 2008
132
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An 80-foot blank wall in an area that is supposed to be pedestrian friendly is a bad idea. But's it's also easily solved -- just put in some display windows. The Apple Store in nearby Burlingame is a good example of this.
 
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