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If it only stopped there. Apparently now hiring companies want to check your FB... by gaining access to your FB account. That is, they want the password and check anything private on it. It's insane. While certainly I don't mind checking someone's public account (I mean, that's what someone willfully put on the air so it's fair for them to check it) I totally oppose them gaining access to your social media actual account.

Yes, I have read about this pernicious practice of asking to see your private FB account which I think is outrageous. They are neither kith nor kin, let alone friends; this practice of expecting access to your private "spaces" - while simultaneously offering ever decreasing security and/or rights in employment contracts and contexts - is one I harbour grave reservations about.

Actually, while I don't have a FB account, I would have concerns about admitting close family to such spaces, let alone employers; what about personal or private space?

They (that is, employers) have a right to your professional conduct and expertise and your professional integrity - and that you show respect to the job and the office - during office hours; they do not have a right to have any access to your private life or thoughts.

For my part, I grew up in a family, where, when you received letters, (including letters from abroad), they were placed (sealed) on your plate for you to open (and read) in private, (if preferred) when you arrived home; in other words, even as a child, your privacy was respected, and you were expected to extend that courtesy to others, although parents could ask (and could be expected to ask) about the contents of the letter.
 
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yaxomoxay

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they do not have a right to your private life or thoughts.

Agreed on everything you said. As for the quoted part, I certainly give companies the right to check what an individuals publishes for the world to see and use it to evaluate if such individual is fit. I wouldn't hire a vocal NAMBA member, for example.
 
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yaxomoxay

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I wonder how everybody on social survived the big outage of '19...


https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/13/tech/facebook-instagram-down/index.html

Looks like you haven't been outside today...

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circatee

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I’m beginning to wonder if Forums fall under ‘Social Media’.

For this week I’ve made it a point to disconnect from Instagram and Twitter. And, to be moderately active on Forums (I’m part of 4).

Well, let’s see if my mood changes in the coming weeks/months...
 
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I will admit that the reluctance of - and refusal - of Mark Zuckerberg to make himself available to answer questions to an elected parliament would not inspire confidence.

Moreover, the tardiness of FB to take down certain extraordinarily offensive videos today, likewise, leaves me somewhat underwhelmed.
 

yaxomoxay

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I’m beginning to wonder if Forums fall under ‘Social Media’.

Yes. The only difference is that they are anonymous, at least in theory.

For this week I’ve made it a point to disconnect from Instagram and Twitter. And, to be moderately active on Forums (I’m part of 4).

Well, let’s see if my mood changes in the coming weeks/months...

Read the book I suggested.
 

Tech198

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I would definitely agree with you on that. I guess I am a bit shocked that “social media influencer” is actually a thing that people aim to achieve as well.

Probably the closest thing I subscribe to in terms of Instamodels on Instagram is a little ADV motorcycle porn like this ....

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Neat bike
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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I would probably not bother buying a smartphone if I quit social media. It’s about 90% of my use and for a lot of people I know to be fair. Not sure I could find enough uses for an iPhone without it.
 

samiwas

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Another use for social media: discussions. On Facebook, there are numerous discussion groups regarding my career field. People can go there, ask a question about how to do something, and within ten minutes, have 20 responses from a world-wide audience. Or, you can hear news from the developers and have direct contact with them. Sure, this can be done on forums, but then you have to have 15 different forum accounts and have to purposely find them and join them, a process which is much easier with a single Facebook account. And far less spam...

Another benefit is jobs. For my job class, all the people in town who do the same thing are part of a Facebook group. If I need someone to cover me next Friday or need an assistant for a week, I can post a message to the facebook group and get responses, rather than having to call fifteen people until I can find someone. Super helpful that way.
 

arkitect

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Another use for social media: discussions. On Facebook, there are numerous discussion groups regarding my career field. People can go there, ask a question about how to do something, and within ten minutes, have 20 responses from a world-wide audience. Or, you can hear news from the developers and have direct contact with them. Sure, this can be done on forums, but then you have to have 15 different forum accounts and have to purposely find them and join them, a process which is much easier with a single Facebook account. And far less spam...

Another benefit is jobs. For my job class, all the people in town who do the same thing are part of a Facebook group. If I need someone to cover me next Friday or need an assistant for a week, I can post a message to the facebook group and get responses, rather than having to call fifteen people until I can find someone. Super helpful that way.
Very true.

When people think that FaceBook or Twitter or Instagram is only about selfies and pics of their pet or humble bragging the latest pair of trainers they miss the point.

It can be a very helpful tool professionally.

Thanks for posting this…
 
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Another use for social media: discussions. On Facebook, there are numerous discussion groups regarding my career field. People can go there, ask a question about how to do something, and within ten minutes, have 20 responses from a world-wide audience. Or, you can hear news from the developers and have direct contact with them. Sure, this can be done on forums, but then you have to have 15 different forum accounts and have to purposely find them and join them, a process which is much easier with a single Facebook account. And far less spam...

Another benefit is jobs. For my job class, all the people in town who do the same thing are part of a Facebook group. If I need someone to cover me next Friday or need an assistant for a week, I can post a message to the facebook group and get responses, rather than having to call fifteen people until I can find someone. Super helpful that way.

Excellent and very fair point.

Very true.

When people think that FaceBook or Twitter or Instagram is only about selfies and pics of their pet or humble bragging the latest pair of trainers they miss the point.

It can be a very helpful tool professionally.

Thanks for posting this…

Agreed.

I have been invited to join WhatsApp groups for professional purposes (some colleagues on election observation missions, for example) and must say that this be be exceedingly useful for discussing matters that arise or issues that concern us.
 
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I do not use any social media because I have no interest in it.

I guess you could count MR as social media, but forums are different IMHO.
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The problem is that if you look at the comments and list of subscribers you'll notice many young women. At times they are the majority. I honestly don't think that in the long run it's healthy for teen girls to grow up with an overwhelming push towards an impossible level perfection that doesn't exists in real life.

It's a very real problem and the data is just starting to come in about it.

Psychologist Jonathan Haidt has an informative and interesting discussion about this with Joe Rogan here:

Full podcast for context:

Really short summary: Depression, self harm, and suicide rates are significantly higher (especially among girls) since the advent of the smartphone and social media.
 

0388631

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I would probably not bother buying a smartphone if I quit social media. It’s about 90% of my use and for a lot of people I know to be fair. Not sure I could find enough uses for an iPhone without it.
Really? Do your co-workers take many selfies with their pet sheep and post them on Instafaceandfoodphotos?
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Leeks? Rugby? My, my. The Welsh certainly have moved up in terms of fetishes. They must think you're the odd one out given you're English.
Ah you see, I’m in the South Wales valleys so sheep are hard to come by. The sheep are in mid wales and the north. It’s wild horses and bleak baron hillsides where I’m from. They are used to me now after 19 years though ;)
 

yaxomoxay

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Found an interesting peer-reviewed paper.
"Association of Facebook Use With Compromised Well-Being", published in the American Journal of Epidemiology.

Link is here, click on PDF.

From the paper:
"The associations between Facebook use and compromised well-being may stem from the simple fact that those with compromised well-being may be more likely to seek solace or attempt to alleviate loneliness by excessively using Facebook in the first place."
[...]
"we found that using Facebook was associated with a likelihood of diminished future well-being."
 
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