Hello people. I am developing some cocoa apps with a friend. We're looking at doing everything right to the finest details. Since we're both programmers, we don't have any (visual) artistic talent whatsoever. Although the good news is, my girlfriend can do great handdrawings. So I would let her design the icons and other graphics of our software. Now for my question. Many of you here seem to be very creative, what software do you recommend for icon design? I've taken a look at www.mikematas.com and that is the kind of thing I am looking for. He mentions photoshop and cinema 4D. I know some photoshop, but I can't really find out how you make a decent sketch of an icon in there. This brings me to my second question. Are there any good tutorials on this? Websites, or books which cover icon design. Thanks for your help already!