Because an external blu ray burner is the only way I can think of to easily share the hd videos I'll be taking of my kids... so I was just wondering if any of you could recommend a good one... any tips for burning would be nice too....
I could be wrong, but I don't think that we'll ever see BlueRay drives on Mac's. What PC's have BR drives right now...Sony?
So how in the hell do we burn hd video if no computers have blu rays? WHAT THE HELL MAN WHAT THE HELL?
I don't think the argument is nonsensical given that there are multiple factors to consider (codec, bit rate, CBR vs VBR etc.,). In a 'no holds bared' comparison 720p isn't going to look as good as 1080p or 4k but if all three are being acquired by, say, AVCHD at 17Mbps then the 720p could look the cleanest because it is being compressed the least relatively speaking.Are you kidding me? 4k/24 at at 5Mpbs is going to look worse than 720p24 at 15Mbps as well, does that mean that 720 isn't inferior to 4k? Bitrate is different than resolution, fyi.
Your argument is nonsensical.
Toshiba, HP, Gateway, Lenovo, Dell and Acer all offer Blu-ray. It's not too hard to find Blu-ray on the PC side of things.I could be wrong, but I don't think that we'll ever see BlueRay drives on Mac's. What PC's have BR drives right now...Sony?
Most of the time its 1080p movies are low passed and dont have enough detail to justify archiving in 1080p. (ie you cant tell the difference between upscaled from 720 and original 1080)
I agree. There are definitely exceptions, but I'd say "as a rule" most BluRay discs do not gain much from keeping them at 1080p.
So how in the hell do we burn hd video if no computers have blu rays? WHAT THE HELL MAN WHAT THE HELL?
From what I gather Blu-Ray still is not complete.
Sony rushed it out unfinished to take out HD-DVD and from what I know they have done nothing since. Also licensing is still really expensive.
Add to that 75% of the Mac users I know remove any sony drives from their Macs first thing. Sony make questionable hardware.
Just give me a macmini with Bluray, HDMI output and USB 3.0 and I'll be happy.
I don't think the argument is nonsensical given that there are multiple factors to consider (codec, bit rate, CBR vs VBR etc.,). In a 'no holds bared' comparison 720p isn't going to look as good as 1080p or 4k but if all three are being acquired by, say, AVCHD at 17Mbps then the 720p could look the cleanest because it is being compressed the least relatively speaking.
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But it wasn't an accurate comment because you can't just make the blanket statement that 1080p is better than 720p especially when you are talking about it in terms of downloads or streaming where you are trying to cram the most quality into the smallest space using a codec that won't choke the end user's computer all at a price that won't break the bank of the company. Yes, w/o any restrictions 1080p is going to look better than 720p but we live a world full of restrictions.Correct, but the origional comment was in regards to resolution only.
BR's path is no different than the life of CDs and DVDs. I remember when a 4x CD-R burner was blazing fast and blank DVDs were $5 a piece. I think it's odd that you call a 50gig BR VERY expensive at $10+ yet a 32gig thumb drive for $70+ is reasonably priced. The thumb drives do have an advantage in that USB is so ubiquitous where as BR requires burners and readers but on the other hand I don't see thumb drives being sold in packs of 100 for $25 at Best Buy even though I think that price point, and lower, is inevitable for BR. Sony's broadcast wing just announced quad-layer versions of their XDCAM disc format (which is basically just a professional grade blu-ray disc in a protective cartridge) so we are starting to cross the realm from what Sony theorized BR could do when they first launched the format into what BR is actually capable of. Do I really have to say what advantages a 50gig BR has over an 8gig DVD?"Toshiba, HP, Gateway, Lenovo, Dell and Acer all offer Blu-ray. It's not too hard to find Blu-ray on the PC side of things."
However, most are readers only if stock...BTO options to get the BD burners. From there, blank media is still VERY expensive...at least 3 bucks for a single layer, and 10 bucks+ for double layer 50gig discs.
These days, on sale, it's 10 or 15 bucks for 50 DVD-Rs and CDrs...cheap as dirt, and as mentioned, VERY easy to burn HD content to DVD! Why the need for BD?
It's only natural for physical media sales to decline because it has only been recently that there has been an alternative to physical media but I think the decline isn't as doom-n-gloom as the internet-echo chamber makes it out to be. There are still billions of people world wide w/o broad brand, miles of red tape to get through for international distribution (how many countries are *not* serviced by the iTMS?), the fact that some people prefer hard copies, etc.,. Is the 'golden age' of physical media over? Yes. Is physical media going to disappear? No.It has NOT caught on as some in this thread would lead you to believe, at least on the "archive" end...while I do agree that it has continued to grow on the consumer end...with a BIG thanks to the PS3! However, in comparison with DVD, there is still a HUGE difference in sales! The recent (6 month or so) drop in pricing has helped a bunch...as well as the drop in price for decks and their ability to use the internet to hook into youtube, Netflix, etc.
I think physical media is definitely in it's waining days...at least in the form of a 5" disc.
Since '99/'00 I've been hearing about how the CD was dead and while CD sales have been steadily declining and legal downloads have risen CD sales still generate more revenue. Digital sales, which can't even make up for the drop in CD sales, slowed down significantly from '08-'09 compared to '07-'08. Link Downloadable/streaming movies are getting a lot of buzz but download/streaming revenue makes up less than 1% of a movie studio's annual revenue. Link.
When my DVD player died a year ago, do you know what I got as a replacement? An upconverting Oppo DVD player. The same is true for my friends who own a 42" Sanyo flatscreen. My friends and I have a lot invested in our DVD collections. I'm not interested in Blu-Ray, until I see some proof it's not just a temporary placeholder.People don't go out and buy DVD players anymore, they buy Blu-Ray players.You can't demand that your customers do it your inferior way or the highway.
+1 I still like my physical media and getting rid of it altogether is mind boggling. I have no doubt that it will be done. I'm just not ready for it to happen yet.Jobs doesn't believe in physical media anymore. His head is too far ahead of the reality of the technology. And it sells more iTunes
When my DVD player died a year ago, do you know what I got as a replacement? An upconverting Oppo DVD player. The same is true for my friends who own a 42" Sanyo flatscreen. My friends and I have a lot invested in our DVD collections. I'm not interested in Blu-Ray, until I see some proof it's not just a temporary placeholder.