Other sue apple for activation lock

[Timpetus]

Home owners can change the lock when they lost their key.

Not to a house they've already sold and moved out of, which is the equivalent situation here. Sellers and buyers should always take care to ensure devices have been properly prepared for the new owner, just as you would make sure not to leave important personal information behind in a house you sold. If it were possible to prevent unauthorized people from changing your locks on your house that would be fantastic, but such safeguards are more difficult to perfect in the physical world than the digital one.

 

[za9ra22]

why isnt anyone sueing apple for icloud lock

To file a suit on this basis, you have to detail the specific way(s) a policy has harmed you. Actual harm, not imagined.

My entirely uneducated guess since you haven't explained an actual predicament, is that absent harm, only an idiot for a lawyer would risk the significant reputational harm of a lawsuit which would be dismissed as frivolous before any court date was scheduled.

You would actually know this if you read the link you provided to the DoJ action, where they take pains to explain the harms they allege Apple have done.

 

[decafjava]

Were you anywhere near the Geneva railway station on January 11 of this year??

 

[TokyoKiller]

then why does android not have lock and apple products have it and they get bircked least they can do is so the whole emial or just remove for older devices

Because Apple devices are a high-value target and Android devices are not nearly close in being targeted. Are you sure you aren't a bar-hanging thief hoping to get around iCloud Activation lock?

 

[AlastorKatriona]

Because Apple devices are a high-value target and Android devices are not nearly close in being targeted. Are you sure you aren't a bar-hanging thief hoping to get around iCloud Activation lock?

I'm 1000% certain they are trying to evade iCloud Activation Lock on a device.

 

[motorazr]

Activation Lock essentially bricks devices that were discarded without signing out of one's Apple ID. The issue is that Apple doesn't give you an opportunity to contact the owner it's locked to and ask them to unlock it. You either need to enter their Apple ID credentials, or provide Apple with proof of purchase to get them to remove it.

If I remember correctly, Apple has this online form that allows you to send them proof of purchase to get Activation Lock removed. Perhaps this form could be updated with an alternative option - to allow you to anonymously (or maybe with your location) contact the original owner of a device and give them the option to remove it from their account.

Apple is too hands off for anything like this. It financially benefits Apple to make activation lock impossible to remove from a device not signed out of— either your own forgotten ID or a previous owner, but the tools Apple provides to recover an ID are really limited and become very time consuming to try. Until recently, Apple even used this as an incentive to buy from Apple directly — they would reprint the receipt if you bought it at Apple and name matched. I think that policy changed last year, as well as their ability to look up receipts without the actual payment card method used or original email.

Regardless, individuals suing would be at a small claims court dollar amount. It wouldn’t be worth the money to sue, and Apple would almost certainly win.

This would need to be class action sized; and you’d need figures around how many sales Apple makes (and 0 payment recycle devices Apple recoups materials from) that they refuse to unlock, even if the owner is obviously the person presenting the device.

 

[erikkfi]

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[stocklen]

then why does android not have lock and apple products have it and they get bircked least they can do is so the whole emial or just remove for older devices

Sorry, but as you can see universally everyone is.... let's be kind... disagreeing with you.

And for good reason.

How exactly has, or does, activation lock inconvenience you?... or anyone?

A phone, when being decommissioned for sale or trade in is incredibly simple to remove activation lock and its part of the erase process which of course everyone would want to do anyway when parting with their phone. Its not as if its difficult or onerous or even its own distinct step to achieve.

The ONLY people that could possible see activation lock as bad, or inconvenient, are the people who steal, or deal in stolen iPhones. Literally nobody else sees that security feature as a bad thing.

Apart from you apparently.


Mind you, the DOJ have many parts of this legislation that will crash and burn embarrassingly for them as they have been written by people with zero understanding of technology or how some features work.

 

[RSmith2023]

Apple is too hands off for anything like this. It financially benefits Apple to make activation lock impossible to remove from a device not signed out of— either your own forgotten ID or a previous owner, but the tools Apple provides to recover an ID are really limited and become very time consuming to try. Until recently, Apple even used this as an incentive to buy from Apple directly — they would reprint the receipt if you bought it at Apple and name matched. I think that policy changed last year, as well as their ability to look up receipts without the actual payment card method used or original email.

Regardless, individuals suing would be at a small claims court dollar amount. It wouldn’t be worth the money to sue, and Apple would almost certainly win.

This would need to be class action sized; and you’d need figures around how many sales Apple makes (and 0 payment recycle devices Apple recoups materials from) that they refuse to unlock, even if the owner is obviously the person presenting the device.

Looking at your last sentence and you lost me… how exactly is apple able to determine that ”the owner is obviously the person presenting the device” if it is wiped and at the initial setup screen? Just because they have it?

Instead of trying to sue Apple, I think most people sue the person they bought the device from. That is who harmed them by selling a device that cannot be used.

 

[sparksd]

why isnt anyone sueing apple for icloud lock

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us justice sue them

Love these kind of posts - "Somebody needs to sue them (replace with company name)!". But the poster never wants to be the somebody. Shows real commitment.

 

[andyw715]

Well you don't have to use the lock feature and, buyer beware, you should check to see if a phone is locked before you buy it.