TextEdit in Mountain Lion

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by milas90, Jul 29, 2012.

  1. macrumors newbie

    Sep 3, 2010
    When I open TextEdit in Mountain Lion, it brings up an "open" box. In previous versions, it opened straight up to a new document. That quick-start was the main reason I used TextEdit -- does anyone know if there's an option to open a new document on launch, rather than the "open" panel?
  2. macrumors newbie

    Sep 30, 2007
    Same disappointment here...

    I tried a few different keyboard combos but that didn't work. Minor annoyance but, just as you say, the old way was a nice quick entry into the app. Let's hope we missed a trick.
  3. macrumors newbie

    Jul 26, 2010
    The same situation here. What I find, is that if you create a new account and launch Textedit there, you will have a new empty file to edit immediately.
    So my guess is that some preference file should do the trick.
  4. macrumors newbie

    Jun 26, 2009
    Great observation, pekingli!

    I was also very annoyed by this new TextEdit "feature" and was about to switch to TextWrangler. After hearing that pekingli got a blank document under another account, I realized that being logged into iCloud must be the problem.


    Go to System Preferences > iCloud > uncheck "Documents & Data" from the sync list.
  5. macrumors newbie

    Aug 4, 2012

    Worked beautifully but a bit of an intimidating message that anything cloud based gets wiped from your mac.
  6. macrumors newbie

    Nov 3, 2008
    Not a solution - Any other ideas???

    Actually that's not a solution. Many of us use iCloud synchronizing of Documents & Data for a lot more than TextEdit and therefore need to keep that running.

    Is there really no other way to get TextEdit to open with a new document as previously???
  7. macrumors 603

    Feb 20, 2009
    I found that I could just "copy over" an -older copy- of TexEdit (I'm using version 1.6) and use that instead of the latest version in Mountain Lion.

    Version 1.6 still retains "the old ways" of saving files.

    I prefer a -real- "Save As" that works "traditionally", rather than the new style.
  8. macrumors 601


    Feb 19, 2008
    The Finger Lakes Region
    Get that back then and stop whining!

    Just hold down the 'Alt/option' key while in a document and Duplicate will turn into Save-As.
  9. macrumors 604

    Aug 9, 2009
    Have you looked in TextEdit > Preferences?

    That's not a rhetorical question. I don't have Mtn Lion on anything here, so I can't look for you.
  10. macrumors 6502a

    Oct 19, 2007
    thanks. it was also annoying with the preview! both gone now :D
  11. macrumors newbie

    Aug 16, 2012
    Being that we're unchecking Cloud, will that mess with my regular downloads of music? I don't use the cloud at all. Thanks in advance
  12. macrumors newbie

    Aug 21, 2012
    I don't use iCloud but TextEdit on 10.8 has always opened with a blank 'Untitled' document for me.

    The one issue I am encountering is, on Leopard (my previous OS) if you entered some text in this default 'Untitled' document and then if your laptop crashed or TextEdit is 'Force Quit' it would still remember your changes in an 'Untitled' document when you brought it up next time.

    This is not the case on 10.8/ML - if I type anything into the default 'Untitled' document I lose my changes the next time TextEdit comes up, unless explicitly saved before the crash / force quit.

    Has anyone come across this issue and a solution for it?
  13. macrumors 6502a


    Jun 15, 2003
    Washington DC
    Wish there was a better solution to this than either disabling iCloud or using a different version of the app. For now I guess I will find myself an older version of textedit.
  14. macrumors newbie

    Jul 30, 2007
    TextEdit in Mountain Lion

    Not a perfect solution (Btw, I too deselected "Documents & Data" in the iCloud prefs) but these approaches might help some folks irrespective of whether you use iCloud or not
    Method 1. If you want to copy text (say from Safari) make sure the "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" is active in the Services menu (In Safari, after selecting a block of text, click on the Safari menu, choose Services and search for "New TextEdit Window…") A new TextEdit window will open containing your copied selection. You can add Services in the System Preferences via the Keyboard pref. Click on the Keyboard Shortcuts tab and in the left pane choose Services and in the Text sub choose the above Service. Or alternatively click on the Finder menu > Services > Services prefs.
    Method 2. Open a new TextEdit window and save the file as a blank (say in the Documents folder with the title Blank or whatever you like) and drag the Blank file to the Dock (to the right of the Application Divider) When you want to open TextEdit, instead of clicking the application icon in the Dock, just click the Blank document (in the Dock) and you're good to go (no intermediate window will pop up).
    After a while the Blank document will show up in the Show Recents pop-up window when you right (control) click on the TextEdit application icon in the Dock and you can keep using it from there - unless you also suffer from the Show Recents bug that still hasn't been dealt with by Apple even in Mountain Lion.
  15. macrumors newbie

    Aug 5, 2011
  16. macrumors member

    Jan 17, 2008
    Ya, but that still doesn't get rid of the new dialog box when you open TextEdit for the first time. Like everyone else complaining about this new "feature", I have always used TextEdit as a quick catch-all for jotting notes, pasting text, etc. I liked the idea someone else had of replacing 1.8 with an older version of TextEdit. I had just hoped there was a terminal command to make the preference for opening a new TextEdit document to be a blank doc instead of the dialog.

    Wouldn't it be easy to also just write a script you could run which would open TextEdit with a new, blank doc? You could place the script in your dock instead of TextEdit. (I haven't messed with scripts very much so I'm not sure of the best way to go about writing it.)
  17. macrumors 6502

    Let's Sekuhara!

    Jun 30, 2008
    I have a copy of the most up-to-date Snow Leopard Text Edit if anyone wants it.
    Just PM me.
    Only stipulation is you gotta share with others. Pay it forward.
    Help the world cope with the oppression imposed by 10.7 & 10.8

    It seems to be working for me so far. I make no guarantees and am not liable for anything, like if your computer explodes as a result of using it, etc.

    Steps to install:
    1. Drop "Text Edit 10.6.app" into your Applications folder.
    2. Get Info on any .txt file and change the Open With setting. Then Change All. (It will appear not to change, but it does)
    3. Repeat Step 2 for .rtf and any other file types you want to be opened in Text Edit 10.6.
    4. Remove the 10.8 Text Edit app shortcut from your Dock (if it's there) and replace with new and improved 10.6 version. ;-)

    Here are some of the enhancements you'll find in Version 10.6:
    Fully functional Save As feature
    File > New (Cmd+N) promptly creates a new document for you without any nag screens
    Does not Resume old clutter from a previous session upon launch

    The auto-backup feature seems not to work though, as it would if run in Snow Leopard. Probably due to changes in the OS itself.
  18. macrumors newbie

    Sep 16, 2008
    best of both worlds

    i had this same annoyance, but after seeing that the snow leopard version of textedit was compatible with mountain lion, i figured if i wanted to keep my mountain lion with icloud version, id just keep both. i just grabbed the app off my other sl partition and i named the sl version "FastTextEdit" so it will open immediately. unfortunately the sl version of preview is not. i may end up disabling icloud with documents anyway since i dont use it. (not even sure if i can since im running mountain lion on an unsupported mac.. havent even tried)

    hope this helps

    :apple: burkminipup
  19. macrumors newbie

    Jan 3, 2013
    I had the same problem. I have a little AppleScript that just opens a new window when TextEdit launches with no documents. To trigger my script application to run on launch, I use the preference pane "Do Something When" (http://www.azarhi.com/Projects/DSW/).

    Attached Files:

  20. macrumors newbie

    Aug 4, 2012

    Got it working sensibly. Just more useless features dreamt up by geeks.
  21. macrumors newbie

    Jun 17, 2013
    I hate this new "feature" in textEdit as well. I switched to Notepad in the app store, its free and fast, just like textEdit used to be =(
  22. macrumors member

    Jun 11, 2008
    Great tip.

    I've added

    tell application "TextEdit"
    end tell
    at the end to make the Textedit menu bar active.

    And in case you have a non English system, you have to customize the menu items in the line click menu item ...

    So for my German system it looks like:

    -- This script creates a new document instead of showing the "Open" window when the application TextEdit is launched. It should be used in conjunction with a tool like "Do Something When" (http://www.azarhi.com/Projects/DSW/), configured to run when TextEdit launches.
    tell application "TextEdit"
    	set document_count to (count documents)
    	if (document_count is not equal to 0) then
    	end if
    end tell
    tell application "System Events"
    	tell application process "TextEdit"
    		-- Wait until the "Open" window comes up
    		set max_poll_cycles to 100000
    		set cur_cycle to 0
    		repeat until ((count windows) is not 0) or (cur_cycle is equal to max_poll_cycles)
    			increment cur_cycle
    		end repeat
    		click menu item "Neu" of menu "Ablage" of menu bar item "Ablage" of menu bar 1
    	end tell
    end tell
    tell application "TextEdit"
    end tell
    Shame on Apple to force us to use such workarounds instead of simply adding a checkbox "Open with blank window" to the Textedit preferences.

  23. Guest

    Aug 5, 2013
    Create a blank file. Save it. Click on the icon, then 'Get info' and tick 'stationery pad'. This is now a template file. Everytime you want to open a new blank document quickly open this. It will create a copy of the blank file and the template file will remain untouched.

    You can place the template file in your dock for quick opening of blank files.
  24. macrumors newbie

    Dec 14, 2004
    Tucson, AZ
    Threadcromancy, sorry.

    This was the first Google result when I was trying to solve this problem, thought I'd share the literal magic solution.

    defaults write -g NSShowAppCentricOpenPanelInsteadOfUntitledFile -bool false

    Bam, back to normal.
  25. macrumors newbie

    Jun 25, 2009
    Amazing! Thank you! Seems to work for Preview as well :D

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