That's what they'd like us to believe. Somehow I don't think they're all playing by the rules. Do you really really trust our government, after all they're just people like us right ? Difference is, they CAN come to your door with a gun and shoot you. Whether its a serious crime or tax evasion or something even simpler, just remember they're the ones carrying the guns, that BTW, they are now trying to take away from the rest of us.
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U.S. Federal Law Enforcement Says It's Impossible to Wiretap iMessage Conversations
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That's what they'd like us to believe. Somehow I don't think they're all playing by the rules. Do you really really trust our government, after all they're just people like us right ? Difference is, they CAN come to your door with a gun and shoot you. Whether its a serious crime or tax evasion or something even simpler, just remember they're the ones carrying the guns, that BTW, they are now trying to take away from the rest of us.
What are iMessages being encrypted at?
I think a lot of people put WAY too much into the governments ability to crack encryptions.
Look at it is way. If the government had the ability to crack whatever encryption it wanted they wouldn't waste their time changing laws to make companies put back doors into their software.
Just looking at brute force cracking, its nearly impossible.
128 bit AES has 3.4 x 10 to the 38th power worth of combinations
Faster supercomputer (As of 2011): 10.51 Pentaflops = 10.51 x 1015 Flops [Flops = Floating point operations per second]
No. of Flops required per combination check: 1000 (very optimistic but just assume for now)
No. of combination checks per second = (10.51 x 1015) / 1000 = 10.51 x 1012
No. of seconds in one Year = 365 x 24 x 60 x 60 = 31536000
No. of Years to crack AES with 128-bit Key = (3.4 x 1038) / [(10.51 x 1012) x 31536000]
= (0.323 x 1026)/31536000
= 1.02 x 1018
= 1 billion billion years
But the government HATES technology, it puts too much power into the hands of individuals, and theres too many ways to hide our business from them, and if theres anything the government hates it being able to keep them from spying on you.
I think a lot of people put WAY too much into the governments ability to crack encryptions.
Look at it is way. If the government had the ability to crack whatever encryption it wanted they wouldn't waste their time changing laws to make companies put back doors into their software.
Just looking at brute force cracking, its nearly impossible.
128 bit AES has 3.4 x 10 to the 38th power worth of combinations
Faster supercomputer (As of 2011): 10.51 Pentaflops = 10.51 x 1015 Flops [Flops = Floating point operations per second]
No. of Flops required per combination check: 1000 (very optimistic but just assume for now)
No. of combination checks per second = (10.51 x 1015) / 1000 = 10.51 x 1012
No. of seconds in one Year = 365 x 24 x 60 x 60 = 31536000
No. of Years to crack AES with 128-bit Key = (3.4 x 1038) / [(10.51 x 1012) x 31536000]
= (0.323 x 1026)/31536000
= 1.02 x 1018
= 1 billion billion years
But the government HATES technology, it puts too much power into the hands of individuals, and theres too many ways to hide our business from them, and if theres anything the government hates it being able to keep them from spying on you.
You don't get it do you? They don't need to crack the encryption when all they do is go to the mfg, "Give us the key please" (or else), and thats all she wrote. Better off using private encryption with your own personal key.
I DO get it. Thats why i said, why would they bother changing laws to simply get back doors from companies. There however seems to be a ton of people who think that the government can simply break encryption and have these super sweet super computers.
I see what you're saying. However the gov uses the easiest encryption cracking method in the cracking business, question the perp, and formulate a pw from data obtained from the investigation. They only try the brute force (and they do), when there's no other option.
With probable cause and a warrant, the government can invade your privacy. This has been uncontroversial for practically forever.
You can complain when they have only one or none of the two.
Yeah, its generally the suspect that will screw himself over. There was a case a while back where the courts were dealing with a woman who had a laptop with a encrypted hard drive and wanted her to give them the key which she wouldn't do by pleading the 5th.
Apparently thats being contested.
Criminal governance department
Good.
First of all, there shouldn't be a DEA. And while some may wish to debate that, it is clear that many in the United States government, with their NSA, NDAA and so forth, have no respect for the concept of rightful privacy or the 4th Amendment of our Constitution. While there are other bad actors in the world, we need first to be protected from the malfeasant in our own government.
Allowing them any sort of backdoor is akin to handing the keys to one's house over to a thief, or just leaving the door permanently open to all. Rather as they would have itand should not.
Good.First of all, there shouldn't be a DEA. And while some may wish to debate that, it is clear that many in the United States government, with their NSA, NDAA and so forth, have no respect for the concept of rightful privacy or the 4th Amendment of our Constitution. While there are other bad actors in the world, we need first to be protected from the malfeasant in our own government.
Allowing them any sort of backdoor is akin to handing the keys to one's house over to a thief, or just leaving the door permanently open to all. Rather as they would have itand should not.
Actually, if you read the article the memo says even WITH a warrent they can't wire tap because its device to device encryption. I don't think even Apple has access to the messages.
I think we can all rest assured that this is total BS.
It's never "impossible" to tap a phone, be it for voice, sms, or anything else. And if it were, the freaking government wouldn't advertise it, there is absolutely no reason to let the public know that your ability to surveil is crippled in any way.
I don't get anything about this announcement.
It's never "impossible" to tap a phone, be it for voice, sms, or anything else. And if it were, the freaking government wouldn't advertise it, there is absolutely no reason to let the public know that your ability to surveil is crippled in any way.
I don't get anything about this announcement.
Voice and SMS are one thing, but when there is end to end encryption is something completely different.
They can't warrant tap because of technical realities, not because they are legally enjoined from doing so.
They have plenty of other methods at their disposal when their marks are using encryption. They just aren't as convenient and require old fashioned police work.
If Apple can access the encryption keys (which I presume are made by Apple in the first place), then they can access the messages.
At last, some one who seems to know the deference between tin foil and aluminum foil.
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Which is why they have to get permission from a judge to do it.
The big dealers develop/have their own VPNs and communication software. They do not need Skype or iMessage.
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No, that is wrong.
Wow, you mean the government can't subvert your Constitutional RIGHT to PRIVACY on iMessage? Imagine that!
Hey, I wonder if the founding fathers were concerned about their own right to privacy as they plotted against their own British government.... Hell, they were terrorists...(cough)...I mean freedom fighters after all and so today they would have been caught with their cell phones and put on trial before the British could try and tax their afternoon tea.
But thanks to Apple, this is no longer an issue. One if by land, two if by sea....
Hey, I wonder if the founding fathers were concerned about their own right to privacy as they plotted against their own British government.... Hell, they were terrorists...(cough)...I mean freedom fighters after all and so today they would have been caught with their cell phones and put on trial before the British could try and tax their afternoon tea.
But thanks to Apple, this is no longer an issue. One if by land, two if by sea....
Oh do I now? Please explain how I personally benefit by having a criminal locked up for a few months/years and released, hardened like never before. (And lifetime prison sentences I really can't understand. All you get is a convict with no reason to live, increasing the likelihood he'll be a violent inmate).
Do you really think the government is just sitting around in an office using 1000's of hours of man power to "meddle" in your affairs for no reason?? Wire taps are a major pain of the ass that require court orders and lots of man power and resources. I can assure you that the government has no desire to meddle in the average joes affairs so I think your texts are safe.
I am asking all of the service providers to not block my attempts to pass legislation requiring end-to-end encryption of all communications.
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Indeed. However, the dealers would have had more fun.
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Indeed. However, the dealers would have had more fun.
They WISH it was a Pong machine. It's actually a busted piano made to look like a control console for those fake..er...real weapons they keep threatening the world with.
-ITGuy