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Why are so many people using out of date Macbooks?
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No screaming fans here. Zoom, 13" MBP 2011, High Sierra. Stays silent when I stream various broadcasters in HD, connected to external 24" TV over HDMI too.
Better disable that damned Spotlight that wants to index every incoming byte
To be clear, I haven't run zoom on an intel 2015 MacBook since early 2020. Were you also using an external monitor?
Personnally I need Zoom on the MBA when i am not on travel, so doing it with the built in screen.
One should place the documents on the external screen and the Zoom monitor is the laptop's screen.
Finally you are looking into the camera placed above the screen. It would be weird and disturbing for your partners, f you looked elsewhere.
I have a 2015 MBP, which of course has the glowing apple symbol, not to mention the last great Apple laptop keyboard. I can dual-boot with Windows of course, so sometimes I use this - it's perfectly usable for almost all tasks, although the fan powers up more than it used to.
Alternatively I have an M2 Max MBP which is awesome, and I do have Windows in Parallels, but the 2015 was my workhorse for years and is still enough for a lot of my needs. I haven't loaded all my old apps onto the new laptop (still, after a year) either.
Not that you'll see me in a cafe with either to be honest! I'm gradually transitioning from old to new, but no hurry as the old one still works fine.
Alternatively I have an M2 Max MBP which is awesome, and I do have Windows in Parallels, but the 2015 was my workhorse for years and is still enough for a lot of my needs. I haven't loaded all my old apps onto the new laptop (still, after a year) either.
Not that you'll see me in a cafe with either to be honest! I'm gradually transitioning from old to new, but no hurry as the old one still works fine.
Did you clean the fans from the accumulated dust? When I open some Macbooks after 5 years, frequently the fan's showels are completely submerged by dust.
It's just a few screws to open and then blast the dust away. It really helps and will give you a longer battery time as well.
Question: If I get a new battery installed by Apple for my early 2015 MBA will they clean out any dust?
Will you even get a new battery installed by Apple for your early 2015 MBA? Probably not any more.
Go to a local IT shop, they will do it for less and they will clean the MBA as well, if they are not completely without ethics.
You have more risk to spill coffee on your keyboard...If you area tea-drinker !
The installed base of <Big Sur is so tiny, nobody would ever want to write an attack for it today.
Yes Apple will sell you a brand new battery for an ealry 2015 MBA, you'll pay Apple prices obviously but at least you'll get a genuine good quality battery.
You are free to believe that Apple overpriced batteries are better.
My supplier delivers OEM batteries coming from Simplo, the same factory that also delivers Apple as standard.
And I usually only pay around 45€ incl shipping. Never had a probelm with them.
Different versions of macOS can share code and be vulnerable to the same attack vectors. This is a primary reason that using any unsupported operating system is problematic.
It is true that nobody is likely to be crafting exploits against Big Sur, though it wouldn't be unheard of and doesn't mean existing threats are not still 'out there'. But it doesn't mean Big Sur is safe due to that.
Plus, the weakest link is the user, not the system's inherent security.
If you have a trustworthy supplier of A grade OEM Apple batteries then more power to you.
I and majority of other users outthere don't and I personally would rather pay 2x / 3x - as that's how much a 2015 MBA battery would cost at Apple - for a convenience of receiving a guaranteed A grade Apple battery including installation and warranty.
Are you saying that Apple will replace the battery of a 2015 MBA for between 100€ and 150€ including installation?
Really?
P.S. I checked myself: for a MBA2015, Apple charges 185€ (which is less than I thought, but the replacement ist really easy, that battery is not glued)
The battery from my supplier costs 30€, incl. shipping.
The relationship is 1:6.
But I am retired and my 15 minutes time to do it is free...
P.P.S. ...and my 15 minutes time to do it is ways less than the time required to bring in my device to the nearest Apple store and to pick it up again.
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Maybe we don't have to assume this much.
For example, lots of people are running OLCP with SIP disabled. Can we use that as a datapoint for figuring out how useful an up to date system is and what scenarios it protects against?
I'm trying to worry more about security because someone getting full control of a device is worth than losing a passport and birth certificate these days.
There is SOME discomfort in buying a new mac OR switching to linux, but I won't lie to myself with assumptions about security. What I need to do is figure out exactly what the risks are.
For example, someone running an older system might be more likely to be a bit tighter on cash. That might mean they're using a cracked copy of Photoshop or Microsoft Office. On an up to date system, that risk might have been caught by SIP. But on Catalina with SIP, or Sonoma/Ventura with SIP disabled...? It's important to compare Apples to Apples and consider all angles
New iPhones come with carrier financing. MacBooks do not. I can afford a $30/mo. iPhone hardware bill, but not a $200 Mac one.
24 pages of comments later and the world is still seeking the answers...
Are you using Turbo Boost Switcher Pro? For $10 you can disable Turbo Boost of the CPU. There is no perceivable difference in performance, but the fans don't come on, because less voltage means colder CPU.
Should we find an answer why someone does not understand?
Many teachers have the same problem.
It is because someone holds a false believe(like an "out of date") and have a very narrow worldview in order to allow other concepts to help open it up.
Replying again, now that Apple discontinued the M1 MacBook Air. I'm still going to be using it until maybe a year after Apple drops new Mac OS support for it (by which time I should already have an M2/M3 Pro-equipped Mac Mini desktop for busier use, with the Air being for when I'm on the go). After said year, then I'll likely replace the M1 Air with a new 15" MacBook Air, but I'll definitely hold onto the M1 as part of my collection of older operational Macs. And believe me, I have a bunch of them, even some PowerPC Macs that still run pretty well!
Macs are like Toyotas, in that they're built to last with the proper care. (A couple weeks ago I actually got a 2007 Toyota Camry, to replace my aging 2001 BMW 528i with its' failing steering mechanism.)
Macs are like Toyotas, in that they're built to last with the proper care. (A couple weeks ago I actually got a 2007 Toyota Camry, to replace my aging 2001 BMW 528i with its' failing steering mechanism.)
Same reason why I used my surface pro from 2012 all the way to 2019.
If it works fine why bother.
Phones are way different than laptops. Tech advances quickly in phones.
If it works fine why bother.
Phones are way different than laptops. Tech advances quickly in phones.