Anyone know how to quickly navigate subscriptions? The old app was ace for this due to the large grid. This circle thing is so much slower to get through.
Or can I roll back the update?
Or can I roll back the update?
Defending? I was just saying who made the app. The design is absolutely awful and doesn't belong on tvOS. It's like an app using a skeuomorphic icon on iOS 7. Doesn't look right.And once again, Google shafts us with the fugly Material Design BS!!! If I wanted that garbage interface, I'd have gotten an Android smartphone or streamer box!!! FFS
And yet, when Apple designs it's apps for the Android platform, it's respectful enough to port their designs and use the platform's native UI/UX, and not force iOS UI/UX on Android. And most reputable app developers will make their apps use the UI/UX native to the target app platform.
Stop defending Google's arrogance, it's sickening.
I really think the app should have been rejected for not following the HIG.Exactly. Its really out-of-date. Its cluttered, ugly, confusing and its so horribly optimised in terms of using the space on a large TV. When browsing for subscribed channels and videos you get limited to a view that shows you so few options that it becomes silly. On a 65-inch TV you can still only see about 4-5 channels and videos listed at once, while on the previous tvOS-app you could see about 3-4x the amount of channels and videos displayed at once. Browsing for content is just so bad on this YouTube.com/tv experience.
And the player and everything doesn't follow the UX-guidelines, not at all. And they seem to have removed the auto-switching display mode support? So the have actually removed essential tvOS 11.1 features in the new app? Why?
that’s horrible
VP9 has been around longer than HEVC. Chromecast, Roku and Fire TV all support VP9, along with almost every 4K Smart TV. But sure, Google is being stubborn.
Netflix compared 5,000 clips from 500 titles in its library using the x264, x265, and libvpx codecs. x265's implementation of HEVC was the clear winner on quality and efficiency, but whether that matters in light of compatibility and licensing issues isn't so obvious.
HEVC wins hands down in terms of pure performance (encoding efficiency & encoding time).
There are multiple papers concluding this
1. Performance comparison of H.265/MPEG-HEVC, VP9, and H.264/MPEG-AVC encoders
2. Page on m-hikari.com
3. Comparison of compression efficiency between HEVC/H.265 and VP9 based on subjective assessments
4. Coding efficiency comparison of new video coding standards: HEVC vs VP9 vs AVS2 video
The range of gains cited is usually in the 8-10% range. VP9, however is a royalty free standard. While HEVC needs to you pay the patent owners every time you buy an encoder or decoder.
So in the end - We have a free and pretty good standard in the form of VP9. But HEVC is definitely the more cutting edge (but costlier) alternative.
While the vast majority of 4K content on YouTube is in VP9 which is not supported on Apple TV, the earliest 4K video was encoded in H.264 and that might play on the ATV4. I can watch it in 4K on macOS Safari, which also does not support VP9.
As with VP8, to obtain a VP9 license the requestor must grant a reciprocal license to Google, the Primary Licensors, and all other VP9 licensees (including those who become licensees afterwards) under any patents the requestor or their affiliates may own or control that are necessary for implementing VP9. Furthermore, in order to retain the license, the requestor may not sue any other VP9 licensor or licensee for infringement of any necessary VP9 patent claims based upon that entity's making, using, selling or offering for sale a VP9 product within the field of the license.
It is those clauses that are why Apple will not license VP9 to allow 4K YouTube content to play on ATV, iOS Safari and macOS Safari.
What is AV1?4K will come later with AV1, this update has been long overdue we should be very thankful.
Good job.
The old one was extremely barebones but fairly speedy - you had to go to an iPhone/iPad/computer to do the simplest of things, like liking/disliking a video or jumping from a video to the creator's channel page. I would literally watch something on the TV and then go to my YouTube watch history in Safari on my MBP to "like" a video.
This version adds most of the needed controls (I'm still not seeing "add to a playlist", or, say, a long-press in the recommended feed for choices like "watch later" and "not interested"). It also feels a bit janky on scrolling, particularly the side scrolling to select from the row of buttons shown when "more options" is chosen under a playing video. They added full video details (creator, date, views - using way more space than needed) under thumbnails and made the thumbnails bigger (frankly, they were big enough before), but this means substantially fewer thumbnails fit on the screen at once (horizontally and vertically), and now there's not-quite-two rows of thumbnails, rather than many - it's a bit like looking at everything through a telescope: you can see one thing very clearly, but have to do a lot of constant scrolling around to see "the world around you" (imagine you were working on a spreadsheet but the app insisted on displaying only 2 rows and 3 columns). Hulu made this same mistake in their redesign - too far in the "viewable from 50ft away" direction, sacrificing field of view, giving the user tunnel vision. It doesn't help that the YouTube app jump scrolls to always keep the top row at the top - makes it feel janky, and you lose the smooth change from one topic/row to another, contributing more to the feeling of loss of context.
In addition, they use the top row of the screen for: a continuously displayed "YouTube" name/logo, and a search bar. But the search bar takes you to a different screen (more loss of context), so they could have just as easily put the YouTube logo (sans name) and the magnifying glass (to get to the separate search page) in the top left corner of the home screen, and used the full vertical height for thumbnails, at least getting a complete two rows in.
They also "helpfully" turned autoplay back on for me, but this can be disabled in the app's settings screen.
I'm glad to have the increased functionality, but there's substantial room for improvement.
Why exactly? Whats wrong with the Netflix-app? It seems to be doing exactly what its supposed to do and compared to every other streaming service app it doesn't seem to offer a UX-design and experience that is any worse than it competitors? A update could possibly make sit worse.. Just like this new YouTube-app update..
The old one was extremely barebones but fairly speedy - you had to go to an iPhone/iPad/computer to do the simplest of things, like liking/disliking a video or jumping from a video to the creator's channel page. I would literally watch something on the TV and then go to my YouTube watch history in Safari on my MBP to "like" a video.
This version adds most of the needed controls (I'm still not seeing "add to a playlist", or, say, a long-press in the recommended feed for choices like "watch later" and "not interested"). It also feels a bit janky on scrolling, particularly the side scrolling to select from the row of buttons shown when "more options" is chosen under a playing video. They added full video details (creator, date, views - using way more space than needed) under thumbnails and made the thumbnails bigger (frankly, they were big enough before), but this means substantially fewer thumbnails fit on the screen at once (horizontally and vertically), and now there's not-quite-two rows of thumbnails, rather than many - it's a bit like looking at everything through a telescope: you can see one thing very clearly, but have to do a lot of constant scrolling around to see "the world around you" (imagine you were working on a spreadsheet but the app insisted on displaying only 2 rows and 3 columns). Hulu made this same mistake in their redesign - too far in the "viewable from 50ft away" direction, sacrificing field of view, giving the user tunnel vision. It doesn't help that the YouTube app jump scrolls to always keep the top row at the top - makes it feel janky, and you lose the smooth change from one topic/row to another, contributing more to the feeling of loss of context.
In addition, they use the top row of the screen for: a continuously displayed "YouTube" name/logo, and a search bar. But the search bar takes you to a different screen (more loss of context), so they could have just as easily put the YouTube logo (sans name) and the magnifying glass (to get to the separate search page) in the top left corner of the home screen, and used the full vertical height for thumbnails, at least getting a complete two rows in.
They also "helpfully" turned autoplay back on for me, but this can be disabled in the app's settings screen.
I'm glad to have the increased functionality, but there's substantial room for improvement.
STEM engineers?
I’m leaving my review here:
“What the hell? Seriously, who designed this? Who validated the UX of this app? If you are developing an app for millions, make sure whoever designs it actually lives and breathes the platform that it’s targeting. Learn to leverage the platforms capabilities.. and for god sake, use it first to understand what feels natural to the user! I’m pretty sure I’ll just airplay to my Apple TV, from now on, just to prevent me from using the Apple TV app... crap.”
It’s that bad.
Edit: as an iOS designer and developer I try to refrain myself from leaving such harsh, non-constructive reviews, but again, this app is absolute crap.
Oh, and I just uninstalled the app...
So you can only left swipe to go through subscriptions in alphabetical order? If you want to go to that last in the list you have to swipe through them all?
There are so many design issues with this app it is now almost unusable with the Apple remote.
The YouTube app for the Apple TV received a complete design overhaul today, introducing a new interface that's similar in design to the YouTube app for iOS, YouTube on the desktop, and the YouTube app for other television platforms.
Rather than a single navigation bar at the top that links to sections like Search, Home, and Subscriptions, there's a new universal search bar that's easier to access along with dedicated categories like Recommended, Entertainment, Food, Music, Gaming, Technology, Comedy, and more, which makes it easier to find new content relevant to your interests.
A navigation bar on the left side of the screen provides access to your subscriptions, library, and viewing history, and there's a new, more detailed settings section.
While today's update lists 4K videos as "4K" in the video app, it does not appear that YouTube is supporting 4K content on the Apple TV at this time. When viewing details about a video, maximum available resolution is still listed as 1920 x 1080.
Today's revamped YouTube Apple TV app comes just a few days after YouTube officially introduced its separate YouTube TV app for the Apple TV, allowing YouTube TV subscribers to access live content.
The new YouTube app for Apple TV is available now, and it can be installed by going to the YouTube app in the App Store and choosing "update" if it does not update automatically.
Article Link: YouTube App for Apple TV Receives Major Redesign
This was long overdue. When I saw the new YT logo when I fired up my ATV last night, I knew they had finally brought the YT that has been available on nearly every other device for a while now. It makes the ATV4 more complete now. I would still use the PS4 for YT for the better experience. Now I don’t have to fire up a much more energy hungry device when I’m not playing games.
It was such a pain using the outdated crap that the previous version was. Extremely limited results, more difficult to get to all of a channel’s videos, etc. I understand others’ frustrations with the lack of 4K but my 1080p set is still great and I could care less about 4K until my current TV dies. Until broadcasts are native 4K and TVs with ATSC 3.0 tuners are available in the U.S., it just isn’t necessary. I’m certainly not going to waste money buying lots of UHD Blu Rays the way I did when Blu Ray first launched.
I love the new app. Looks gre8 on my 65 ‘ televisión. Yes, i have one and its SONY. my famale dont get how 2 use the new application lol she said its too confusing and that’s hard 2 find a channel u already subscribed before. I only play hiphop flicks so i don’t care problem is i wanna c 4k but why won’t work?? I have a 65 pulgadas tv SONY that i bought s friend from my barrio days ago. Funny thing is i bought it without the remote control cause its lost i mean i don’t know where my friend found this tv but it pretty new and big n only costed me 200 bucks. So i use it with el appletv all the time. New yt app is okay 2 me. Nice work apple
Pretty broad brush you got there.You know, those people that buy smartphones based on the speed of the processor alone. They're STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics) types. And likely have a proclivity for computer engineering. Thus "STEM engineers." They've little to no mind for design or functionality. Just 1s and 0s.
This version adds most of the needed controls...
They added full video details (creator, date, views - using way more space than needed) under thumbnails and made the thumbnails bigger (frankly, they were big enough before), but this means substantially fewer thumbnails fit on the screen at once (horizontally and vertically), and now there's not-quite-two rows of thumbnails, rather than many - it's a bit like looking at everything through a telescope: you can see one thing very clearly, but have to do a lot of constant scrolling around to see "the world around you" (imagine you were working on a spreadsheet but the app insisted on displaying only 2 rows and 3 columns).