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wikiot
Apr 28, 2011, 06:58 PM
So, I'm a huge Apple fanboy. And when people ask me my phone, I say iPhone. When they ask me my OS? I say Mac.

Then I'll get some crap about macs not being able to play games, or how you can't right click on Apple trackpads.

I didn't even say anything offensive! They just automatically go a-wall when they see a mac user and torture him for no reason.

Same thing with iPhones, iPads, etc...

I told a friend I had an iPhone, he said he had a Samsung EPIC 4G and he was like "Yeah... you know Droid (You mean Android?) is better because we got like millions of apps."

And I was like "All the apps on 'Droid' suck. I used to have an Android phone, and out of those millions of apps only 4 or 5 of them even had any quality. Then theirs the issue of how well x app will run on y phone."

And then he just totally exploded, telling me how much better his phone was with 4g service and all that (even though their isn't Sprint 4g here in Phoenix yet)
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TLDR -Why do people hate Apple product users, for no reason? Is it because they're jealous that they can't afford such superior products? Honestly, I'm tired of a bunch of chumps with $300 Acer netbooks trolling all over my MBP. Like wtf? Good luck getting that thing to last you 2+ years.
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Most arguments I've had with Mac-haters are nothing legitimate. Most of their points are.

- Can't right click on Apple Trackpad (Lol, you obviously have never used a Mac for more than 15 minutes to figure out this option's available in the system preferences.)
- They can't game (I play WoW & SC2 just fine on my MBP, and that's all I really need...)
- You can't do "serious" stuff on a Mac (I know this one's kinda old, but I still hear it today. Man, we have iWork, Office, OpenOffice, and if that isn't satisfactory then you can use Google Docs through your favorite web browser.
- They're overpriced (Sure, you might be able to build a PC for 1/4 of the price of the Mac with better components. The question is, how long will it last you? My families had 3 HP laptops and none of them last more than a year or two. What's the resale value? My $1600 Sony VAIO All-In-One Desktop PC {VPCL114FX/B} which I purchased last year won't even sale for $700 on Craigslist.)
- You can get viruses (Funny, because Windows can too, and can get more...)

simsaladimbamba
Apr 28, 2011, 07:01 PM
Why do people hate? - Ignorance.
But not everybody does hate Apple products, there is no need to exaggerate. Look at this message board.

WillEH
Apr 28, 2011, 07:02 PM
You can right click on the apple track pad... You just need to change the settings in the option keyboard..

wikiot
Apr 28, 2011, 07:03 PM
You can right click on the apple track pad... You just need to change the settings in the option keyboard..

I know, but that's what people say...

WillEH
Apr 28, 2011, 07:04 PM
I know, but that's what people say...

I wouldn't worry. Just tell them to get on with life, and not worry what computer you have. :)

simsaladimbamba
Apr 28, 2011, 07:04 PM
You can right click on the apple track pad... You just need to change the settings in the option keyboard..

System Preferences > Trackpad.

WillEH
Apr 28, 2011, 07:05 PM
System Preferences > Trackpad.

Or Trackpad, I have no idea why I said keyboard. Meh. I'm using a windows computer right now. So I can't check my MBP. :(

ucfgrad93
Apr 28, 2011, 07:14 PM
I wouldn't worry. Just tell them to get on with life, and not worry what computer you have. :)

Agreed. Get what fits your needs the best, and let others do the same.

James L
Apr 28, 2011, 07:15 PM
If someone goes off with the Mac hate talk I just tell them that they must have a very small penis to be compensating so bad in other areas of their life.

It's more fun when I'm with a close friend who is breathtakingly hot, because she looks down at their crotch with a look of disgust at the same time.

:D

DeaconGraves
Apr 28, 2011, 07:17 PM
To play devil's advocate, you're not going to get into a reasoned debate with someone about iOS vs. Android by saying "All the apps on the droid suck."

But to echo what everyone else has been saying, who cares what others think? Go with the product that makes you happy. It's their loss if they can't do the same.

likemyorbs
Apr 28, 2011, 07:35 PM
Who gives a crap? Let them stick with their inferior technology. You'll be doing "serious" work on your mac and getting things done efficiently, while they're crying to the geek squad that their pc crashed and they have a paper due tomorrow. Then we'll see who's laughing at who. I've managed to convert all my family and friends to apple products so i don't even deal with this anymore. I don't even know anyone who still buys pc's.

Dr Kevorkian94
Apr 28, 2011, 07:58 PM
its not our fault people are idiots, i like when people do it to me so i can put them in there place. dang nabit

thejadedmonkey
Apr 28, 2011, 08:16 PM
Can't right click is valid. As is the fact that Apple mice suck.
Can't play games is also valid. Sure they "run" games, but try playing a new title on a 13" MBP... $1200 from any other computer company will get you a gaming machine.
I can't say that you can't do serious stuff on macs, but I know whenever I have to be productive, I boot up into Windows, to use the same programs, because I 'feel' more productive. Subjective, yes, but anyway...
Overpriced: See point 2. My $350 PC from 2.5 years ago is having motherboard/power supply problems. I'll be without it for a few days. My $2000 MBP after 2 years had more than $350 worth of parts fixed in it.
And re:iPhone... I just hate the walled garden. I would never buy an iPhone because of it. Even Microsoft's "walled garden" for WP7 is looking like it'll be a better place to live.

AP_piano295
Apr 28, 2011, 09:35 PM
LMAO, your about 10 years late to the persecuted mac user party :rolleyes:.

About half the kids at the average university use macs now a-days and everyone I MEAN EVERYONE has and ipod or an iphone, pretty much no one "hates" apple.

Hate to wreck your prosecuted minority complex :rolleyes:.

kuwisdelu
Apr 28, 2011, 09:47 PM
1. This:

To play devil's advocate, you're not going to get into a reasoned debate with someone about iOS vs. Android by saying "All the apps on the droid suck."

2. Get better friends. I seem to get alone with Windows and Linux users just fine. But I only choose to hang out with mature people.

Eigtball
Apr 28, 2011, 09:56 PM
OP, the only thing I see wrong with your statement is that you called android crap. I don't think your friend would have exploded if you had responded with a bit of tack.

Apple users get a bad rap because we profess how amazing they are, and ignore the rest. Now this isn't true, but it's out there.

rever3nce
Apr 28, 2011, 10:06 PM
its just like in the car world that everyone compares high performance cars to farrari . its just that brand that everyone compares it too and the people that own one get jumped on. its just completely different from everything else (quality over quantity) and its media that makes apple a big whoop too. there are hundreds of iphone commercials and there are maybe 2 Samsung Epic commercials. there is an autotrader commercial and even in shows and movies where if its a laptop its a mac with the apple logo blurred out or covered up . lots of advertisement and such nice devices make people hate . and some say "$600 for an iphone?!" when in reality if you have an upgrade or new line you can get an epic for the same price as an iphone.

eawmp1
Apr 28, 2011, 10:12 PM
So, I'm a huge Apple fanboy...

I didn't even say anything offensive!

...I was like "All the apps on 'Droid' suck.

Why do people hate Apple (some) product users?

You answered your own question ("some" added by me). You ARE that guy that makes it harder on the rest of us.

Tomorrow
Apr 28, 2011, 11:13 PM
"Everyone"? I don't know about that.

I'm an engineer, and while I've been good-naturedly teased for my use of Macs ("But, you're an engineer! You're supposed to like technical machines!"), I've never been ridiculed.

Then again, I'm a pretty big guy - people don't generally **** with me. :cool:

mrsir2009
Apr 29, 2011, 12:45 AM
OP: Android doesn't "suck". Remember not everything that is made by a company other than Apple "sucks". Personally I use Samsung Android cellphones, because I like them better than Apple's walled iOS garden and choice of 1 phone. However I love Macs, and have used only Macs all my life and always will :D

r1ch4rd
Apr 29, 2011, 02:28 AM
Usually when I mention that I have a Mac people express an interest as they all seem to be considering whether to get a Mac for their next computer! So, looks like the hate is fading.

decafjava
Apr 29, 2011, 08:10 AM
I don't get what's the problem with the "walled garden"? I mean android is great and I am honestly impressed by WP7 but the choice of ios apps is huge - and I mean there are plenty of useful/fan apps both free and paid (at least for me). I am sure there is a similar great choice for android all I'm saying I'm not suffering from the "walled garden." After all most people just use their phones as tools and don't care to tinker with them the way I have to do with my PC to run flight sims or other demanding game applications.

rdowns
Apr 29, 2011, 08:12 AM
I know, but that's what people say...

Who cares what people say? Move on.

iLucas
Apr 29, 2011, 08:17 AM
I get hate all the time at my school where im basically the only one that uses a mac. < 10 mac people in the building. I get hate just for going to this site and i just ignore them

chrono1081
Apr 29, 2011, 08:33 AM
I get it too all the time OP. People constantly badger me for having Macs and have this myth about Mac users and how they are and such and people constantly try and sway me to Windows (even though I fix Windows for a living and know it far better inside and out than Mac OS).

It wont end, you just simply have to ignore it. People tend to hate what they are jealous of. I've seen this many times. Some of the same people who used to give me crap about Macs now use them and rave about how awesome they are.

(marc)
Apr 29, 2011, 09:00 AM
[...]

And I was like "All the apps on 'Droid' suck. I used to have an Android phone, and out of those millions of apps only 4 or 5 of them even had any quality. Then theirs the issue of how well x app will run on y phone."

And then he just totally exploded, telling me how much better his phone was with 4g service and all that (even though their isn't Sprint 4g here in Phoenix yet)

[...]

Sounds like you and your friend need to get a life and move on :rolleyes:

KnightWRX
Apr 29, 2011, 09:08 AM
I think a big reason people hate on Mac users is that some Mac users tend to call anything non-Apple "garbage".

Look at the threads recently on the MacBook Air forums where users have tried comparing the Lenovo X1 or the Samsung Series 9 which are comparables to the MacBook Air, some Apple users just say "it's garbage", "it's ugly", "it's cheaply made" without having any first hand knowledge or even having ever owned the product.

I think that is what breeds the attitude from other users toward Mac users. They're so used about the "air of superiority" that the minute you mention you use a Mac, they jump on you for fear that you will jump on them.

As long as people on both sides have this sort of paranoia going (because Mac users that call any PC "garbage" "ugly" or "cheap" are as guilty as the PC users you portray here), you will get that sort of thing.

The world isn't so black and white. Apple makes good stuff, Samsung makes good stuff, HP makes good stuff, Lenovo makes good stuff, Sony makes good stuff.

ender land
Apr 29, 2011, 11:49 AM
Considering I use OS:X, Ubuntu (yay updates!), and Windows7 on a regular basis, I have no problems what people say about my choice of a computer.

The real issue is more when you cannot justify why you purchased a laptop that costs more. The "apple tax" exists, the question is whether you actually have thought about it and understand you are paying more for a product for specific things.

I justify my MBP because:

1) I do development, and like using OS:X for development
2) trackpad quality is worth $100 or more to me
3) I like OS:X a bit more, not overly so, but worth some ($50?)
4) I like having access to a legitament terminal
5) I like the appearance ($50)
6) I like the build quality ($50)
7) I like the keyboard and backlight ($50)
8) I like the display quality and black border, it is nice looking to me ($50)

So looking at specific features I am easily willing to pay close to $400 more for this machine than a comparable windows equivalent. So I can actually explain things to people who are like "lolMac." I spent a lot of time thinking about what computer to get and eventually got this MBP 13". I tested a LOT of computers before buying this and compared a lot of components and the MBP quality won me over. Items (1), (2), and (3) are relatively unique to Mac laptops, as compared with comparable windows based machines - I can get Windows based laptops that hit most of those items.

But a lot of mac users can't and just get a mac because they want one and act like it's superior without having any reasons other than "Apple is teh bestest!"

steadysignal
Apr 29, 2011, 01:50 PM
Why do people hate? - Ignorance.
But not everybody does hate Apple products, there is no need to exaggerate. Look at this message board.

correct. ignorance, fear, loathing, all of it.

people hate because they draw breath into their lungs.

its as natural as opening one's eyelids.

hate is hate. nothing more.

Synchromesh
Apr 29, 2011, 03:44 PM
Who gives a crap? Let them stick with their inferior technology. You'll be doing "serious" work on your mac and getting things done efficiently, while they're crying to the geek squad that their pc crashed and they have a paper due tomorrow. Then we'll see who's laughing at who. I've managed to convert all my family and friends to apple products so i don't even deal with this anymore. I don't even know anyone who still buys pc's.

That pathetic superiority complex right there is why people hate Mac users. Hell, it's why I dislike some of them. Mac has its own issues with both software and hardware. Just because it's easier to use initially doesn't mean it's not possible to run into issues at all. Nowadays Mac is a glorified PC anyway so technology used is too close to each other to ignore any way.

There are also tasks where Mac just sucks (eg gaming) and a cheaper enthusiast-built PC will run circles over shiny but useless Mac. So before you start ragging on other people's choices at least do your research.

Young Spade
May 3, 2011, 01:06 PM
Same thing with iPhones, iPads, etc...

I told a friend I had an iPhone, he said he had a Samsung EPIC 4G and he was like "Yeah... you know Droid (You mean Android?) is better because we got like millions of apps."

And I was like "All the apps on 'Droid' suck. I used to have an Android phone, and out of those millions of apps only 4 or 5 of them even had any quality. Then theirs the issue of how well x app will run on y phone."

Well on the portable side, i do feel that Apple products are behind the curve. Both in build quality, specs, and the overall experience. I'm somewhat of a nerd and I've been using all kinds of electronics for years and in the portable space I feel that Android is better than iOS. Now yes, you do have the issue of fragmentation, however if, as a consumer, you get a phone with at least a 1ghz processor you'll be fine and won't have to worry about things like that.

There is a quality/quantity argument that can be had here and the general consensus is that iOS apps are of higher polish and look better. I would agree with that, however, the restrictions that the AppStore has on the applications coming iin really restricts to what you can do with the phone. The home screen always has X number of squares on it. You can scroll and move around in the dock but nothing more. Ever.

With android, I can have any number of home screens with widgets that show LIVE information, which is something I can't live without. Turning the phone on and swyping from one that shows the full weather forecast throughout the week to another that shows the specs and processes of my phone; then to another that has my calendar and tasks that I have laid out for me (which are automatically synced) and many more. And all free.

So yes... you do have two sides here, you just have to find out which is better for you. And lets not even get into the custom firmware side of things; with Android phones and a little help from XDA, you can have that thing running custom firmware that enables free bluetooth/wifi/usb tethering, overclocking/undervolting, and many other things.



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TLDR -Why do people hate Apple product users, for no reason? Is it because they're jealous that they can't afford such superior products? Honestly, I'm tired of a bunch of chumps with $300 Acer netbooks trolling all over my MBP. Like wtf? Good luck getting that thing to last you 2+ years.
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Now I don't think it's for no reason, however I do agree that a large percentage of people just don't know enough about Apple products and as a result, they rely on the price tag to justify the argument of an ignorrant buy. "You can do more with a PC." I then ask, what can you do with yours that I can't do with mine? A lot of it boils down to enterprice or business centric programs that you normally wouldn't just buy for the average consumer. You do have the whole editing side of the argument as well but how many editors actually think ("Mac or PC?") I'm sure at that point, they already know what they need to use and what we argue here doesn't have an impact on that.

Then you have to think about the average person who buys a Mac and what they do with it. I just finished my freshman year at the university and I frequently visited a local coffee shop down the street. WHile I was there, I saw a lot of Macbooks as well as a lot of PCs, however the MBs constantly outnumbered the PCs.
I started to notice that most people with MBs in there didn't do anything... wel that required a system of their specifications. You have to remember that many things average consumers use dont' really require, and I said require" a computer over 2 gigs of ram and a dual core processor. With that said, the average PC user asks "Why do they need a computer that's double the cost of mine with the same specs? They're just undereducated (in the tech sense) and have money to blow."

This might be true for a lot of people, however PC users have to realize that we are all on message boards, we (for the most part) aren't the average consumer. As Mac users, we could make the same argument about the technical know-how of the average PC user as well.

My apologies for it being a little long winded, however I feel that these arguments really don't need to be had as you can't make a general sweeping statement because in all honesty, we don't know how "everyone" feels nor do we know everyone's fluency or use of their computer, either Mac or PC.

Young Spade
May 3, 2011, 01:14 PM
That pathetic superiority complex right there is why people hate Mac users. Hell, it's why I dislike some of them. Mac has its own issues with both software and hardware. Just because it's easier to use initially doesn't mean it's not possible to run into issues at all. Nowadays Mac is a glorified PC anyway so technology used is too close to each other to ignore any way.

There are also tasks where Mac just sucks (eg gaming) and a cheaper enthusiast-built PC will run circles over shiny but useless Mac. So before you start ragging on other people's choices at least do your research.

This is exactly what I was referring to earlier when I make the above post. There is a certain mindset that "ignorant" Mac users have that their PC is ultimately better. I don't think it is. There are pros and cons of any operating system, no matter who you are and what you're using it for.

Instead of providing logical rebuttals that Mac users should use, they instead (and I'm just making a generalization here, nothing scientifically backed) reply about why PC computers aren't as good either, using things like them breaking, bad warranties, and getting viruses. Both of these are applicable for BOTH Mac and PC users.

I feel that people should instead talk about the experience they have. If your experience is great on a PC but that much better on a Mac, that's great; that's how my experience was personally. however bashing any other based on tech specs, price, and possibilities isn't really a "good" argument.

mrsir2009
May 3, 2011, 01:56 PM
OP: Can I point out how childish it is to use "like" in that way in conversation. Example: And I was like, all apps on the droid suck.

You sound like a bitchy teenage girl in a girly American movie.

zioxide
May 3, 2011, 02:14 PM
TLDR -Why do people hate Apple product users, for no reason? Is it because they're jealous that they can't afford such superior products? Honestly, I'm tired of a bunch of chumps with $300 Acer netbooks trolling all over my MBP. Like wtf? Good luck getting that thing to last you 2+ years.

why do you even care? EVERYTHING is always going to have haters. realistically, in cases like this, they are just immature. if the product works for you and you like it, good for you. if not, buy something else. it's not that hard. however, its all personal preference, and nobody really gives a damn what you think, so why should you care what they think?

the vj
May 3, 2011, 02:28 PM
Why don't you spend less time in front of a computer and more time doing real things. You are lacking of social skills.

MrMac'n'Cheese
May 3, 2011, 03:31 PM
When some says Macs suck because you cannot right-click, I feel like punching them into a wall.

They are just haters who can't afford Apple.

Synchromesh
May 4, 2011, 09:32 AM
Why don't you spend less time in front of a computer and more time doing real things. You are lacking of social skills.
Or written English skills. ;)