"Jag-wire" vs. "Jag-waarr"

[mike czech]

When S. Jobs was speaking about 10.2 at MWSF he kept saying "Jag-wire". Was I the only one who wanted to correct him?? Have I been mispronouncing Jaguar the whole time??

[Juventuz]

No, you're pronouncing it correctly.

Maybe he was just trying to be British ;)

I have a few English friends and they say Jaguar "Jag-Wire"

[djkut]

Originally posted by Juventuz
Maybe he was just trying to be British ;)

I have a few English friends and they say Jaguar "Jag-Wire"

Actually they pronounce it Jag-u-arr.

[idkew]

Originally posted by djkut


Actually they pronounce it Jag-u-arr.

i concur doctor.

[amnesiac1984]

yes we do say jag-u-ar, cos thats how it is spelt and thats how it is said! I remember watching MWNY and I really noticed it but I didn't really notice it in MWSF...

[djkut]

Originally posted by amnesiac1984
yes we do say jag-u-ar, cos thats how it is spelt and thats how it is said! I remember watching MWNY and I really noticed it but I didn't really notice it in MWSF...

I would have to agree that that is the way it is said. Americans...:rolleyes: :D

[Macette]

while we're on the topic, what about aluminum vs aluminium

i mean, you guys even spell it differently.

in australia, we are looking forward to receiving our A-LU-MIN-I-UM Powerbooks.

how about you?

[amnesiac1984]

good point i never noticed that. I guess aluminUm is actualy consistent with all those other elements like, er, ceasUm, magnesUm and pottassUm!

:P

[FelixDerKater]

Jaguar. Jag-warr.

Would you say quality as "qwile-ity"?

Maybe Jobs wants to innovate the English language as well.

[mmmdreg]

Originally posted by amnesiac1984
good point i never noticed that. I guess aluminUm is actualy consistent with all those other elements like, er, ceasUm, magnesUm and pottassUm!

:P

edit...i missed the sarcasm so i made a fool of myself :)

[FelixDerKater]

Aluminium. That just sounds funny.

[mmmdreg]

edit: just to waste space...its Aluminium

[Les Kern]

I've been around on earth a while, and even the British used to say Jag-warr. In the last few years it became Jag-u-ar. Probably marketing.

[medea]

its actually jg?wär' or jg?y??-är'
yag-war

[rainman::|:|]

first of all, steve jobs can kiss my ass, jag-wire sounds awful.

secondly, i've never paid much attention to the aluminum thing before a song on the latest Counting Crows CD pronounced it "aluminium". To tell the truth, i've always spelled it aluminium, i didn't even know i was spelling it "wrong"... i've always pronounced it "aluminum", or more simply, "tin".

everyone in the rest of the world talks funny :)

pnw

[funkywhat2]

I believe he says "Jag-wire" becuse there is a peice of UNIX server software also called Jaguar.

[yamadataro]

Oh I thought it was my Japanglish that was really messed up when I heard SJ's Jug-wire pronuciation!

What the hell that was that all about then???

[amnesiac1984]

Originally posted by mmmdreg


actually, aluminIUm is consistent with all those other elements like, er, cea-sIUm, mag-ne-sIUm and po-tta-ssIUm so seems Aussies have the right idea =)

Yeah I think you missed my point, I was pointing out that it obviously is aluminiUm using possibly the most obvious sarcasm, I'm not that stupid to think that all elements are spelt that way!

Originally posted by mmmdreg


It's actually more like Al-mi-nium without the first u but yeah...aluminum sounds funny...

What on on Earth are you talking about! No-one says Alminium! AlUmInIUm is how it is spelt and how it is said! And if you think it sounds funny then get over it!

Originally posted by FelixDerKater


Jaguar. Jag-warr.

Would you say quality as "qwile-ity"?

Maybe Jobs wants to innovate the English language as well..

that is also wrong! q is always followed by a u in proper english words, and therefore the u is unnecessary and q is only ever pronounced like "kw" together. I guess the U is there just to remind people of how it is pronounced. Anyway, you cannot compare these two words. Anyways its not jag-warr, its jag-you-are.

Finally Paulwhannel you can rest easy as you are not spelling it wrong okay?


Thats enough of my .02 for now

[yamadataro]

Well, if Steve calls it Jag-wire, we SJ lovers might just have to call 10.2 Jag-wire from now on :D:D:D

I'm 100% sure that there are at least 200 Japanese Mac maniacs with OK English ability who proudly call it Jag-wire after the keynote (incl. myself!).

[Rajj]

This is a very funny topic because I have this discussion almost every other week with Australian people (I am American). I came to the fact that this is a never-ending discussion, because either party thinks they are wrong!!!!??. so who really gives a *****?? I don?t anymore, because the British will say their English is proper just as the Aussies, but American English is not???!!!!

Also, here is some food for thought for the Aussies:

Listen to yourselves when you say Australia or Africa, it sounds like you are saying:
Aus..trail..yer or Af..ric..yer!!!!!! Now that is funny!!!! ;) :p :p

[lmalave]

Originally posted by amnesiac1984
yes we do say jag-u-ar, cos thats how it is spelt and thats how it is said! I remember watching MWNY and I really noticed it but I didn't really notice it in MWSF...

That's a bit presumptuous, no? Considering it's not even an English word :rolleyes:

How about prouncing it "Ha-gwar". THAT'S how it's pronounced! (in Spanish)

[lmalave]

Originally posted by Les Kern
I've been around on earth a while, and even the British used to say Jag-warr. In the last few years it became Jag-u-ar. Probably marketing.

The first time I heard a pronunciation close to this was when I was taking a class "Mayas, Aztecs, and their Predecessors" in college. The professor (German I think?) pronounced the word "ha-gu-ahr" - with a slight pause between the syllables. I think she may have been going for the authentic Mayan pronunciation or something (yes there are still plenty of Mayan descendants that speak derivatives of the language - and I know for a fact she's gone on archaeological expeditions in Central America). Just a guess, though - I and the other folks in the class thought the pronunciation was pretty funny...

[rainman::|:|]

Originally posted by amnesiac1984
Finally Paulwhannel you can rest easy as you are not spelling it wrong okay?

lol... you know, for some reason i spell a lot of things with their international spellings... "colour" "behaviour" etc... i get a lot of crap about it, people think i'm trying to be brit-chic (damn madonna), but for some reason that's just how my brain wants to spell it. I've become pretty good at spelling things the "american" way (i had a teacher who really came down hard on me), but aluminium is going to stay just how it is :D

pnw

[medea]

Ok I'll repeat it again, it is actually pronounced
jg'wär' or jg'yoo-är' and it's a portuguese/spanish word
yaguar actually not j sound in it at all.

[rjrufo]

I think it's funny that everyone is arguing over how other people talk. Heck, even people in the same country can't talk the same. I'm in Boston, Massachusetts, USA. People here talk different than they do in New York City, New York, USA. And New Yorkers talk different than people in Washington D.C., USA. People in all three cities talk different than people in the Georgia, USA. People in Georgia talk different than people in Chicago, Illinois, USA, who talk different than people in Dallas, Texas, USA. I can keep going, but I think you get the picture.
Pretty strainge, isn't it?

[rainman::|:|]

Originally posted by rjrufo
I think it's funny that everyone is arguing over how other people talk. Heck, even people in the same country can't talk the same. I'm in Boston, Massachusetts, USA. People here talk different than they do in New York City, New York, USA. And New Yorkers talk different than people in Washington D.C., USA. People in all three cities talk different than people in the Georgia, USA. People in Georgia talk different than people in Chicago, Illinois, USA, who talk different than people in Dallas, Texas, USA. I can keep going, but I think you get the picture.
Pretty strainge, isn't it?

boston accents are funny :D

say it with me, "yaRd". RRRRRRR

hehe just giving you crap :)

i think it's funny how people in other countries interpret the American accent. For the most part it's okay, but sometimes they pronounce certain words with a southern drawl, or some other regional accent, and it takes you totally out of the character and makes you laugh. it's gotta be confusing as hell for other people to try and figure out American accents, because as you said it can change dramatically from place to place, even nearby...

pnw

[lmalave]

Originally posted by medea
Ok I'll repeat it again, it is actually pronounced
jg?wär' or jg?y??-är' and it's a portuguese/spanish word
yaguar actually not j sound it it at all.

Actually, you're right - I looked up the etymology of the word. Comes from the Guarani word yaguar, Guarani being Native Americans originally from Brazil/Paraguay/Argentina

[rjrufo]

Originally posted by paulwhannel


boston accents are funny :D

say it with me, "yaRd". RRRRRRR

hehe just giving you crap :)

pnw

What's even funnier, is the midwest, Indiana to be more specific. They add the R where it shouldn't be, like "warsh" instead of "wash".

BTW, I'm not originaly from Boston, so I don't have the accent, but my wife does. She say's "Pahk the cah in hahvahd yahd." I'm used to it now, but when we first met, I used to tease her about it all the time.

(Edited some spelling)

[Rajj]

Originally posted by rjrufo


What's even funnier, is the midwest, Indiana to be more specific. They add the R where it shouldn't be, like "warsh" instead of "wash".

BTW, I'm not originaly from Boston, so I don't have the accent, but my wife does. She say's "Pahk the cah in hahvahd yahd." I'm used to it now, but when we first met, I used to tease her about it all the time.

(Edited some spelling)

Ha ha ha haha!!!
You are so right!!!!
And in Chicago (Chi-town) they say stoe instead of store!!!!
:rolleyes:
And on the west coast they pronounce everything out, like Grandmother or Grandfather, like it should be, but in the south they say Granny or Grandpa!!!!
I could go on and on but it is futile to do so, because people are going to talk how they want to!!