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3rdpath
Feb 22, 2006, 03:21 PM
So the story is he was racing an SLR on the PCH, lost control and clipped a power pole 5-10 feet off the ground.

ouch! (http://www.latimes.com/la-022106crash_lat,0,4450156.story?track=hpmostemailedlink)



krimson
Feb 22, 2006, 03:27 PM
i drove by yesterday and scavenged a 4" piece of red wreckage. :D

clayj
Feb 22, 2006, 03:27 PM
Darwin is shaking his head right now, wondering how this one slipped through his fingers.

jimsowden
Feb 22, 2006, 03:28 PM
While the enzo is a miraculously fast car, they're ugly as sin. If you're gonna spend that kind of cash, get a Bugatti.

Lord Blackadder
Feb 22, 2006, 03:46 PM
What an idiot. It is some consolation that the over-rich b*stard had to leave his million dollar baby in pieces on the road to escape the law...an expensive little lesson in physics, no?

i drove by yesterday and scavenged a 4" piece of red wreckage. :D

I smell an ebay auction....

clayj
Feb 22, 2006, 03:49 PM
What an idiot. It is some consolation that the over-rich b*stard had to leave his million dollar baby in pieces on the road to escape the law...an expensive little lesson in physics, no?There is no escape. They'll have the VIN number already and be paying a visit to this guy's house... so now he can add a charge of leaving the scene of an accident (in which another person was injured, lest we forget) to his resumé.

Hope he does some jail time for this.

Lord Blackadder
Feb 22, 2006, 03:55 PM
Oh, I know he'll get caught. I'm glad he ran off though, since it puts him in deeper *****.

I hope they get the driver of the other car too...probably another moron with more money than sense.

3rdpath
Feb 22, 2006, 03:59 PM
The l.a. times article ( in print) was more detailed about the whole "other driver" scenario. the car's owner was at the scene( a swede named eriksson) and he told police that a man he only knew as "dietrich" was driving the car. "Dietrich" ran away after the accident.

The sgt. at the scene said " He( Ericksson) had a .09 blood alcohol level, but if he's a passenger, that's ok. But he had a bloody lip, and only the air bag on the driver's side had blood on it. The passenger-side bag did not. My Scooby-Doo detectives are looking closely into that."

Now that's pretty freakin funny.

clayj
Feb 22, 2006, 04:07 PM
So, perhaps he was in the car by himself and tried to play the old "the driver ran away" bit while he moved himself to the passenger seat? What a moron... you know they're gonna type and DNA test the blood to see if it's his...

Lord Blackadder
Feb 22, 2006, 04:21 PM
So this got me wondering what the bodycount on Enzos is so far....

After a quick search it looks like the number of Enzos left is at maximum 398, probably 397, including today's crash - the photos speak for themselves.

Fatal Enzo crash (http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=44846) Notice the green cloth on the road, probably covering a piece of the driver...

$400,000 in damages! (http://www.wreckedexotics.com/enzo/enzo_20040205_001.shtml)

Another crash (http://www.wreckedexotics.com/enzo/enzo_20041210_003.shtml), this time in the UK.

And I thought Ferrari was really picky as to whom was allowed to buy its cars...makes me sick to look at shredded Enzos.

krimson
Feb 22, 2006, 04:25 PM
What an idiot. It is some consolation that the over-rich b*stard had to leave his million dollar baby in pieces on the road to escape the law...an expensive little lesson in physics, no?



I smell an ebay auction....


nah, this could be the only Ferrari I ever own. ;)

DMPDX
Feb 22, 2006, 04:32 PM
My neighbor was one of the first 50 to purchase the enzo, back when they were sub $700,000, brand new. That was with the fee of importing it too. Since they're so scarse they've skyrockete in price. Here in portland, OR the grand turismo dealership has one at a $900,000. The black beauty in my opinion.

etoiles
Feb 22, 2006, 07:24 PM
Here is some footage of the scene...
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-022106ferrari_apvid,0,3263349.wmvfile?coll=la-headlines-frontpage

The guy is a former exec for the 'Gizmondo' mobile gaming device company. Seeing what happens to the things he touches, I am not going to shake his hand...:eek:

Counterfit
Feb 23, 2006, 12:45 AM
I'm just glad it's not the one owned by Richard Losee. He let Road & Track take his Enzo for a 1000 mile road test, with Phil Hill driving! :eek:
He also bought a second set of doors, and made it into a Targa.

iBlue
Feb 23, 2006, 02:30 AM
...
Fatal Enzo crash (http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=44846) Notice the green cloth on the road, probably covering a piece of the driver...

gross, i bet it's a leg, look at the shape.

russed
Feb 23, 2006, 04:25 AM
Fatal Enzo crash (http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=44846) Notice the green cloth on the road, probably covering a piece of the driver...


wow that is a nasty crash - where has the rest of the car gone? there is most of the back and none of the front! :eek:

mpw
Feb 23, 2006, 04:54 AM
Having walked away from a crash into a telegraph pole at 120mph he can consider himself lucky whatever fine/time he does.

A fool for driving like that on that public road:mad: but at least his car got to live a little before it died, most Enzo's probably rarly leave their climate controlled garage.:(

MinorBidoh
Feb 23, 2006, 09:40 AM
that badboy was in the last few pages of my free local newspaper today (newcastle, UK). pic of some dude standing next to it with a broom.


sweet.

SpookTheHamster
Feb 23, 2006, 11:45 AM
It's a shame to see another dead Enzo, but I thought you got time on the Ferrari track with instructors, etc when you bought one? From what I saw on the news yesterday, he was only doing 120mph, and on quite an easy looking patch of road. You've got to be a pretty crappy driver to crash like that.

Lord Blackadder
Feb 23, 2006, 02:39 PM
No, he was doing 120 when he hit the pole. They think he had exceeded 200 before the crash. He probably had the rear end step out and over-compensated, or lost it under braking. Enzos can scrub a lot of speed off really quick, but 120 is still insane speed...as you can see from what's left of the car.

You know it's a wild car if Micheal Schumacher himself says that turning off the traction control is "unwise" even for a driver of his caliber - remember, the Enzo is in some respects very close to Formula One performance, but F1 cars all have traction control! :eek:

grizzlybrice
Feb 23, 2006, 08:28 PM
On the way to lunch in Monterey myself and 3 buddies noticed an Enzo parked on a side street with the driver inside. I didn't have the nerve to go up to the guy, but two of our posse did. The four of us ended up chatting about the car with the guy for about 15 minutes.

It was quite an experience. My buddy had the nerve to ask for a ride, and this older driver said that if he had a camera phone he would take a picture in the front seat of it. I thought it was odd for an older gent to be so gungho about technology. We found out at the end of our conversation that of the 400 made (number 400 went to the old pope for auction), this was number 399 and that there are only 80 stateside. And the guy was one of the co-founders of Nextel. Quite crazy.

The guy mentioned that one can turn off the traction control, but said it himself that it was 'unwise', funny that he used the same wording.

The guy is living his dream. He said that the car starts to feel 'right' when one is going 170+. The love for Ferraris can spread quickly. And to quote this outstanding gentleman, "Ferarris are meant to be driven."

The Grizz

PS. Oh, he did a 180 on the side street (poorer turning radius than one would think), and then tore it up down the little straightaway to the stopsign. It sounded so sweeet. Very throaty, unlike a supercar, more muscle car.

yankeefan24
Feb 23, 2006, 08:54 PM
PS. Oh, he did a 180 on the side street (poorer turning radius than one would think), and then tore it up down the little straightaway to the stopsign. It sounded so sweeet. Very throaty, unlike a supercar, more muscle car.


so wait, was it totaled?

I think that buying a ferrari is a bad idea if you do anything besides collecting and/or racing on the track. They are just too powerful. Buy a top of the line mercedes, maserati, bentley, rolls, or anything not a sports car. Spend that much, get a luxury. Just my opinion though. No one seems to care.

GFLPraxis
Feb 24, 2006, 02:16 AM
They've got it over at WreckedExotics.com too. I love that site. For those that have never seen it, it's a database of thousands of photos of wrecked exotic cars plus weird and strange wrecks with regular cars.

Coverage of this crash:
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/special/enzo/

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/special/enzo/ferrari_enzo_crash_006.jpg
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/special/enzo/ferrari_enzo_crash_007.jpg
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/special/enzo/ferrari_enzo_crash_005.jpg
GEEZ!

Counterfit
Feb 24, 2006, 03:37 AM
They should make another series of "Red Asphalt" style movies. But instead of cracked open heads and spilled brains, pictures of wrecked exotics and Ferrari engines sitting in the middle of the highway.

Lord Blackadder
Feb 24, 2006, 11:42 AM
Looks like the front end got light cresting that hill and he lost it on the way down. That is an exensive lump of Italian steel in the road there. :rolleyes:

Studawg7
Feb 24, 2006, 12:30 PM
Looks like the front end got light cresting that hill and he lost it on the way down. That is an exensive lump of Italian steel in the road there. :rolleyes:

i think you would be hard pressed to find much steel in this vehicle, try carbon fiber and other exotic alloys

Lord Blackadder
Feb 24, 2006, 01:19 PM
Looks like the front end got light cresting that hill and he lost it on the way down. That is an exensive lump of Italian carbon fiber and other exotic alloys in the road there.:)

iGav
Feb 24, 2006, 03:19 PM
Clown. Obviously ran out of talent.

Counterfit
Feb 24, 2006, 03:40 PM
Clown. Obviously ran out of talent.
That assumes he didn't use it all up just getting out of the driveway. ;)
I think we can rule this guy as "Not the Stig".

CompUser
Feb 24, 2006, 08:23 PM
Poor Car, stupid guy for driving that fast, stupid guy for racing, and stupid guy for buying that pricey of a car.

Counterfit
Feb 24, 2006, 09:32 PM
Poor Car, stupid guy for driving that fast, stupid guy for racing, and stupid guy for buying that pricey of a car.
I disagree. Stupid for diving that fast and racing on public roads. ;)

mulze22
Feb 24, 2006, 09:51 PM
Does anybody else feel really bad that a beautiful car was just destroyed? 'Cause I do.

alexstein
Feb 25, 2006, 12:47 AM
I might sound a little ignorant here but what a dumb-ass takes such a car and races it on a public highway!!

Take that baby to a race-track to see what it's capable of.


About that missing driver I can only ask myself don't they have license plates, VIN#, Registrations and such things. With either one of the information it can only be a matter of hours to find that guy.

jimsowden
Feb 25, 2006, 01:22 AM
In the words of Jeremy Clarkson, It's not speed that kills. It's not. It's instantaneously stopping that gets you.

Calvinatir
Feb 25, 2006, 01:34 AM
I work and go to school on PCH in Malibu, south of where the accident happened. Today.... I saw a Ferrari Enzo on the back of a flatbed truck going north.. Could he have already replaced it? :)

Lord Blackadder
Feb 25, 2006, 11:57 AM
I think not. I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrari blacklisted people who crash their cars in these sorts of circumstances.

emaja
Feb 25, 2006, 12:13 PM
Too bad this thread isn't titled "One less rich ass-dart in the world who doesn't have enough sense to know where the limits of his talents are."

OK, maybe that's a little harsh.

I see the same sort of thing all the time around here - except with teenagers and their sportbikes wearing shorts and sandals and absolutely no protective gear at all popping wheelies and stoppies down busy streets.

3rdpath
Feb 25, 2006, 12:27 PM
About that missing driver I can only ask myself don't they have license plates, VIN#, Registrations and such things. With either one of the information it can only be a matter of hours to find that guy.

I don't think anyone really believes there was another driver...certainly the police don't. Ericksson will eventually get charged with DUI and whatever else the authorities think will stick( IMHO).

As far as the vin#, etc...there seems to be some question as to how the enzo made it into the U.S. and who it's registered to. Should be interesting...

Counterfit
Feb 25, 2006, 01:13 PM
stoppies
Endos ;)

alexstein
Feb 25, 2006, 06:06 PM
I see the same sort of thing all the time around here - except with teenagers and their sportbikes wearing shorts and sandals and absolutely no protective gear at all popping wheelies and stoppies down busy streets.

I used to like riding my sportbike (sold it about a year ago still a little sad about it) around town wearing the proper gear, helmet, boots...
However I always hated when kids/adults like that drove right next to me and try to challenge one. I always smiled and shook my head. Then I always thought to myself if you want to race so bad why don't you visit the next track event and challenge me there.

I have never seen any of those kids on events like that weird isn't it? At last if you wipe out there, you might total your bike, you may even injure yourself, but at least you don't harm by-standers that don't wont to participate in your activities on public roads.

garybUK
Feb 26, 2006, 08:38 AM
I saw a Enzo when i drove from england to berlin on the autobaan, those roads are meant for cars like that ;) it was one of the unlimited stretches, just came tearing down the road must of been doing 170 easily, I was doing 110mph and it was gone in a split second.

Shame this moron destroyed such a beautiful machine. That's what you get with idiotic millionaires buying things for the status.

emaja
Feb 26, 2006, 11:10 AM
...I always thought to myself if you want to race so bad why don't you visit the next track event and challenge me there.

...At last if you wipe out there, you might total your bike, you may even injure yourself, but at least you don't harm by-standers that don't wont to participate in your activities on public roads.

And proper medical care with be there instantly.

I used to ride - sold mine too - and was constantly amazed at how little people know about proper riding technique. Not just proper riding gear, but leaning into turns enough, not dragging your feet, and things like that.

I can only imagine what those same people would try in an exotic car and we can see at least one example here, but there are plently of others.

Money does not equal brains, self-awareness, or even common sense.

cantthinkofone
Feb 26, 2006, 11:25 AM
And I thought Ferrari was really picky as to whom was allowed to buy its cars...makes me sick to look at shredded Enzos.

They are. You had to own a F40, or F50 to get one of these. And even the F40 and F50 were about impossible to get.

...It was quite an experience. My buddy had the nerve to ask for a ride, and this older driver said that if he had a camera phone he would take a picture in the front seat of it. I thought it was odd for an older gent to be so gungho about technology. We found out at the end of our conversation that of the 400 made (number 400 went to the old pope for auction), this was number 399 and that there are only 80 stateside. And the guy was one of the co-founders of Nextel. Quite crazy.

The guy mentioned that one can turn off the traction control, but said it himself that it was 'unwise', funny that he used the same wording.

The guy is living his dream. He said that the car starts to feel 'right' when one is going 170+. The love for Ferraris can spread quickly. And to quote this outstanding gentleman, "Ferarris are meant to be driven."

The Grizz

PS. Oh, he did a 180 on the side street (poorer turning radius than one would think), and then tore it up down the little straightaway to the stopsign. It sounded so sweeet. Very throaty, unlike a supercar, more muscle car.

I would have hugged that guy for saying that. There are very few exotic car owners that know about the car(s), much less billionaires.

My dad's cousin's husband(:p ) owns a 328 GTB ferrari. I drove it last july. The car practically drives it's self.

And my self personally, i would have grabbed that V12 sitting there on the ground.

And IMO, the guy deserves to have a recked enzo for changing out the wheels on it :mad:. There is a reason they are on that 1-million dollar car you idiot!!

Lord Blackadder
Feb 26, 2006, 02:16 PM
They are. You had to own a F40, or F50 to get one of these. And even the F40 and F50 were about impossible to get.

I heard that you had to own at least two other Ferraris, but I didn't think they specified F40 and F50; in fact they made less than 350 F50s (Ferrari built 400 Enzos plus the FXX cars). The F40 isn't terribly rare either, since over 1,300 were made. That's a lot for a Ferrari. It was more or less being a good Ferrari customer that got you on the list.

iGav
Feb 26, 2006, 03:34 PM
And IMO, the guy deserves to have a recked enzo for changing out the wheels on it :mad:. !

you know... I thought exactly the same thing when I first saw the pictures as well. ;) :p

I heard that you had to own at least two other Ferraris, but I didn't think they specified F40 and F50; in fact they made less than 350 F50s (Ferrari built 400 Enzos plus the FXX cars). The F40 isn't terribly rare either, since over 1,300 were made. That's a lot for a Ferrari. It was more or less being a good Ferrari customer that got you on the list.

I seem to remember reading something similar about having to have purchase one of the previous special editions (288 GTO, F40, F50) though I also recall reading that you had a better chance of getting on the Enzo Ferrari list, had you not previously been a speculative buyer/seller of previous Ferrari's... or maybe, like you say... it was just a case of being an exisitng Ferrari owner.

That said... you could order Enzo's from exotic dealers even before they were actually built... so it wasn't that difficult to buy one :eek:

It's a shame that they didn't homologate the FXX, a car that is IMHO, even more awesome than a Veyron... and one in the tradition of exceptionally rare, uber-super-Ferrari's such as the GTO Evoluzione, F40 LM and F50 GT.

cantthinkofone
Feb 26, 2006, 04:21 PM
I heard that you had to own at least two other Ferraris, but I didn't think they specified F40 and F50; in fact they made less than 350 F50s (Ferrari built 400 Enzos plus the FXX cars). The F40 isn't terribly rare either, since over 1,300 were made. That's a lot for a Ferrari. It was more or less being a good Ferrari customer that got you on the list.

Well i thought that it had to be a F40, F50, or both to even be considered a owner of a enzo. Maybe not. But i do know that the F50 was never sold to any one. All of them are leased to the people that have them. Ferrari can take them back when ever they want.

jeffy.dee-lux
Feb 26, 2006, 08:18 PM
not quite as rare and not quite as fast as an enzo, but still very sad:

http://acrosstheboard.blogspot.com/2006/02/dude-what-happened-to-your-car.html
http://s133702574.onlinehome.us/pictures/blog/FordGTWreck.jpg

Lord Blackadder
Feb 26, 2006, 10:28 PM
It's a shame that they didn't homologate the FXX, a car that is IMHO, even more awesome than a Veyron... and one in the tradition of exceptionally rare, uber-super-Ferrari's such as the GTO Evoluzione, F40 LM and F50 GT.

I wonder what the future of the FXX is. Ferrari specifically stated that the car (or more appropriately, the "program") was supposed to aid in the devlopment of future products. The "owners" don't take delivery of the FXX, in fact I wonder if they really own the car at all. I can't see Ferrari just destroying them when the program ends...but like you said they are one of THE rarest (quasi)production Ferraris ever, and the fastest too. But with them not being road-legal that puts them in a sort of limbo.

Well i thought that it had to be a F40, F50, or both to even be considered a owner of a enzo. Maybe not. But i do know that the F50 was never sold to any one. All of them are leased to the people that have them. Ferrari can take them back when ever they want.

I never heard that they were leased...what, like the GM EV-1? :eek: I doubt it.

By the way, Eriksson has put up the wreck for sale for $200k (http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&searchType=21&paId=192139536&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending&certifiedOnly=false&recnum=0&leadExists=true&criteria=K-%7CE-%7CM-_51_%7CD-_7231_%7CN-N%7CR-30%7CI-1%7CP-PRICE+descending%7CQ-descending%7CZ-90024&aff=msn) :eek:

I heard it comes with a free crushed ego. :p

cantthinkofone
Feb 26, 2006, 10:44 PM
$200k :eek: About the only thing salvageable on that thing is the seats, steering wheel, and possible a disk roter or two. Guess you could strap those roters on your ford focus and give your self wip lash from the sudden breaking :D

3rdpath
Feb 26, 2006, 11:30 PM
ha!

the enzo sale is too funny....you do get that its a joke....right?

alexstein
Feb 26, 2006, 11:40 PM
I took this straight from the cars.com site.


Additional Selling Points: OK, my name is Deitrich and I have a, well, pre-owned and slightly busted-up Enzo for sale. I got most of the parts back from PCH but couldn't get them all as I, well, had to leave the scene of the accident rather quickly. Alles, das ich sagen kann, ist, unglaublich!

That is some funny stuff.

puckhead193
Feb 26, 2006, 11:55 PM
eh its just an enzo... as one of the earlier posters said, i rather get a bucatti or an aston martin......
Their seems to be too many Ferraris out their.... Every rapper and their mother has one..... time for a change

Lord Blackadder
Feb 27, 2006, 12:10 AM
ha!

the enzo sale is too funny....you do get that its a joke....right?

It's pretty obvious since it involves an imaginary person! :) :eek: :rolleyes:

Depending on the condition of the tub, there is a very remote chance the car could theoretically be rebuilt (I highly doubt it), but

- it would cost as much as it did to build the car in the first place, maybe more.

- the car has not been legally imported, so it is contraband and will probably be retained as evidence.

Counterfit
Feb 27, 2006, 12:45 AM
eh its just an enzo... as one of the earlier posters said, i rather get a bucatti or an aston martin...
So go for the Veyron, which still isn't finished yet, and suffer from instability at high speeds (bad! :eek: ) or go for something slower and even less exclusive (since it seems you care about exclusivity)

iGav
Feb 27, 2006, 05:46 AM
I wonder what the future of the FXX is. Ferrari specifically stated that the car (or more appropriately, the "program") was supposed to aid in the devlopment of future products. The "owners" don't take delivery of the FXX, in fact I wonder if they really own the car at all. I can't see Ferrari just destroying them when the program ends...but like you said they are one of THE rarest (quasi)production Ferraris ever, and the fastest too. But with them not being road-legal that puts them in a sort of limbo.

According to Wiki, the FXX was EPA certified for street use... which is interesting. In which case I presume once the program is ended the cars will be delivered to their owners.

Little work would be required I suspect to attain single-type approval though if you did want to drive it on the road (probably not the U.S.), and maybe that's what Ferrari was initially trying to stop.

Platform
Feb 27, 2006, 06:29 AM
Saw this....well it had to happen....people crashed the McLaren F1 and people will crash their Bugattis and Koenigseggs ;)

Lord Blackadder
Feb 27, 2006, 12:50 PM
According to Wiki, the FXX was EPA certified for street use... which is interesting. In which case I presume once the program is ended the cars will be delivered to their owners.

hmmmm....sounds possible then. I figured the buyers would probably get to keep the car but this is the first time I've seen evidence that it will be road-legal like its brother the Enzo.

Little work would be required I suspect to attain single-type approval though if you did want to drive it on the road (probably not the U.S.), and maybe that's what Ferrari was initially trying to stop.

I know that here in the U.S. you can get a single car approved as a relic or significant historic auto and be allowed to drive it on the road for a small number of mile per year. The FXX would certianly qualify - one of those few cars that was a super-rare classic the moment it was born.

StarbucksSam
Feb 27, 2006, 04:34 PM
Darwin is shaking his head right now, wondering how this one slipped through his fingers.

I concur. He should get a Darwin Award.

3rdpath
Mar 1, 2006, 10:18 AM
According to the latest news, the wrecked enzo was one of 2 that ericksson brought into the states...along with an SLR. The enzo was not u.s. legal or registered and might be owned by a Scottish bank.

Also, ericksson's SLR was reported stolen to Scotland Yard...which is interesting since initial eyewitness accounts stated that the enzo was racing an SLR when it crashed.

Furthermore, a gun magazine was found among the wreckage scattered along the PCH.

And the authorities are now stating that someone may have been in the enzo with ericksson( though they still think he was driving).

Oh, and he was going 162mph...

I love a good mystery.

Lord Blackadder
Mar 1, 2006, 12:33 PM
Looks like this guy is royally screwed...he'll lose the cars anyway.

Who ever heard of the swedish mafia? :confused: Didn't know there was one.

alexstein
Mar 1, 2006, 12:55 PM
This thing is getting more and more interesting. Can't wait to see what is going to happen to that guy. ....how stupid can you really be....

mpw
Mar 1, 2006, 12:59 PM
According to the latest news, the wrecked enzo was one of 2 that ericksson brought into the states...along with an SLR. The enzo was not u.s. legal or registered and might be owned by a Scottish bank.

Also, ericksson's SLR was reported stolen to Scotland Yard...which is interesting since initial eyewitness accounts stated that the enzo was racing an SLR when it crashed.

Furthermore, a gun magazine was found among the wreckage scattered along the PCH.

And the authorities are now stating that someone may have been in the enzo with ericksson( though they still think he was driving).

Oh, and he was going 162mph...

I love a good mystery.
Maybe the Enzo was only brought to the US as a work of static art, I can't imagine there'd be a law against that, and Ericksson saw his stolen SLR shoot past, he jumps in the Enzo 'cause nothing else is going to catch the SLR and hammers down the road after his SLR while gaining on the SLR at 162mph he takes his hand from the wheel to call the Police and looses control. A tragic accident but he was only doing his civic duty. Are you sure it was a gun magazine? I heard it was a copy of Playboy, which explains why he lost control when using one hand to phone the cops as his other hand was....busy.:o

alexstein
Mar 1, 2006, 01:05 PM
Maybe the Enzo was only brought to the US as a work of static art, I can't imagine there'd be a law against that, and Ericksson saw his stolen SLR shoot past, he jumps in the Enzo 'cause nothing else is going to catch the SLR and hammers down the road after his SLR while gaining on the SLR at 162mph he takes his hand from the wheel to call the Police and looses control. A tragic accident but he was only doing his civic duty. Are you sure it was a gun magazine? I heard it was a copy of Playboy, which explains why he lost control when using one hand to phone the cops as his other hand was....busy.:o


If it was a gun magazin the story would sound better this way:

..he takes his hand of the wheel to reach for his 9mm Glock that was stored in the glove compartment. He lost complete control over the car.....

Lord Blackadder
Mar 1, 2006, 01:31 PM
Well, it's hardly illegal to have gun magazine in one's car...unless of course you are referring to a magazine that feeds ammunition rather than reading material? Sounds like he and some "associates" had a few drinks and decided to race the Enzo vs the SLR.

3rdpath
Mar 1, 2006, 01:55 PM
here in the states, a gun magazine is:

4. a place in a repeating rifle, a revolver, or an automatic gun from which cartridges are fed into the firing chamber.

Lord Blackadder
Mar 1, 2006, 02:14 PM
LOL, where did you get that from? A revolver has a cylinder, not a magazine. That line sounds like something a rabid anti-gun webiste would put out.

Not trying to be a jerk btw, just thought that was funny. :)

Obviously this guy's ties to organized crime are going to be a big issue in the inevitable legal proceedings.

3rdpath
Mar 1, 2006, 02:45 PM
LOL, where did you get that from?

The rabid anti-gun World Book Dictionary. ;)

Lord Blackadder
Mar 1, 2006, 03:17 PM
The rabid anti-gun World Book Dictionary. ;)

Ouch...remind me not to use them when I'm writing my thesis. :eek:

timswim78
Mar 2, 2006, 09:00 AM
There is no escape. They'll have the VIN number already and be paying a visit to this guy's house... so now he can add a charge of leaving the scene of an accident (in which another person was injured, lest we forget) to his resumé.

Hope he does some jail time for this.

Perhaps the vehicle was stolen.

krimson
Mar 2, 2006, 08:31 PM
According to the latest news, the wrecked enzo was one of 2 that ericksson brought into the states...along with an SLR. The enzo was not u.s. legal or registered and might be owned by a Scottish bank.

Also, ericksson's SLR was reported stolen to Scotland Yard...which is interesting since initial eyewitness accounts stated that the enzo was racing an SLR when it crashed.

Furthermore, a gun magazine was found among the wreckage scattered along the PCH.

And the authorities are now stating that someone may have been in the enzo with ericksson( though they still think he was driving).

Oh, and he was going 162mph...

I love a good mystery.


I saw a report that the Glock magazine was put into a witnesses car by an associate of the Swede when he borrowed that persons phone. The associate "Trevor" is now being sought for questioning (15 rd mags are illegal in CA except to LE and those grandfathered) by Sheriffs officials.

another update, so Ferrari spokespeople say that the Enzo can be repaired to original specs... for a mere $150-200k...

cantthinkofone
Mar 2, 2006, 11:08 PM
...another update, so Ferrari spokespeople say that the Enzo can be repaired to original specs... for a mere $150-200k...

:eek: 150-200k?!! how is that possible? Half of the car is missing!!

Lord Blackadder
Mar 3, 2006, 01:54 AM
another update, so Ferrari spokespeople say that the Enzo can be repaired to original specs... for a mere $150-200k...

I don't believe it...link? It would probably cost that much or more just to rebuild the engine, assuming that is even possible (I doubt it).

3rdpath
Mar 16, 2006, 02:41 PM
l.a. times reports that they believe a video was being shot from inside the enzo during the high speed romp and crash. now thats gotta be some serious footage...heck, just the audio alone has got to be astounding.

also, the times has posted a computer recreation of the crash.

link-o-rama (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ferrari16mar16,0,6869781.story?coll=la-home-headlines)

iGary
Mar 16, 2006, 02:45 PM
Did anybody see the story on CNN about this?

The guy has a really shady past and claims some German guy, who fled the scene was actually driving and they are doing DNA tests on the blood in the car. He also stated he was with homeland security, which turned out to be bogus, and he was also drunk.

I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this has been said.

It's on the front page.

Counterfit
Mar 16, 2006, 10:15 PM
also, the times has posted a computer recreation of the crash.

link-o-rama (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ferrari16mar16,0,6869781.story?coll=la-home-headlines)
I couldn't get the video to work, it kept giving me the troubleshooting page. Also, from the article The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department's investigation into a mysterious crash that destroyed a rare $1-million Ferrari
I don't think Ferrari has ever sold a $1m road car. I know they sell some of their older F1 cars for $1m+ (some guy bought a F2001 a year or two ago, and Evo (car magazine) got to go along for the test.)

krimson
Mar 20, 2006, 12:30 PM
I don't believe it...link? It would probably cost that much or more just to rebuild the engine, assuming that is even possible (I doubt it).


It was reported by our local TV station the day before i posted it. It sounded more like a rebuild rather than a repair as you would a regular car.

3rdpath
Mar 28, 2006, 03:37 PM
as our story continues, it seems that mr eriksson's wife was stopped yesterday in beverly hills for driving an SLR that only had british tags on it. not only was the car not registered in the states, his wife had no drivers license. the car was impounded and it seems that scotland yard is pretty sure the car is stolen property.

the SLR was brought into the states along with 2 ferrari's( the Enzo being one of the 2) for strictly show purposes. yea, right...

Lord Blackadder
Mar 28, 2006, 07:32 PM
In other words, this guy is seriously f*cked.:cool:

I'm sure that after the US legal system chews him up and spits him out, there will be a visit to the Old Bailey, and then on to Sweden...:eek:

WildCowboy
Apr 8, 2006, 11:49 PM
And the story continues...here's (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/09/FERRARI.TMP) a good summary of everything that's happened so far. Wow. I mean, wow.

3rdpath
Apr 9, 2006, 12:31 AM
^^^^nice article....thanks!

Counterfit
Apr 9, 2006, 03:46 AM
GRRR!! This was no ordinary car, or car crash. Ferrari reportedly made only 400 of the dazzlingly impractical, gull-winged Enzos, worth $1 million and up. With 660-horsepower, V-12 engines and a sleek, road-hugging profile, they look and drive like UFOs with wide tires.
AGAIN! The Enzo did not cost $1m new! GAH!

mpw
Apr 9, 2006, 02:12 PM
GRRR!!
AGAIN! The Enzo did not cost $1m new! GAH!
But then it doesn't say $1m new in your quote just its worth now. I don't know what the Enzos are going for now but I know plenty of 'classics' change hands above list, I know my boss made a killing on his F40 in the late 80's early 90's.

Lord Blackadder
Apr 10, 2006, 12:24 AM
The whole fake "anti-terrorism unit" thing is hilarious! You can't make that kind of stuff up. :D :p

andiwm2003
Apr 10, 2006, 11:26 AM
well, i hope for three things:

i hope the stupid investors and board members of Gizmodo lost a fortune for failing to oversee what's going on.

i hope this whole gang of cheaters goes to a really bad jail for 20 years.

i hope someone makes a great movie of this story!

krimson
Apr 10, 2006, 12:02 PM
just heard on the radio news that he's been arrested on Grand Theft Auto..

3rdpath
Apr 10, 2006, 12:28 PM
right you are...he's toast!

do.not.pass.go! (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/10/ferrari.crash.ap/index.html)

WildCowboy
May 16, 2006, 12:41 AM
Another update...Ericksson appeared (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/15/ferrari.crash.ap/index.html) in court today on a bunch of charges, but his arraignment was postponed until May 30th. This whole story is just so juicy...

TBirdNutt
Aug 3, 2006, 07:17 PM
I'm just glad it's not the one owned by Richard Losee. He let Road & Track take his Enzo for a 1000 mile road test, with Phil Hill driving! :eek:
He also bought a second set of doors, and made it into a Targa.Sadly, Richard's Enzo has been wrecked.
Story HERE (http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4129176#)

And HERE (http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local_headlines/story.aspx?content_id=912FE8E8-1A0D-4404-A0F2-5F497C1CBBF9)

News Video HERE (http://www.ksl.com/?sid=398104&nid=148)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/TBirdnutt/20060803__ut_b1mast_08031.jpg

paleck
Aug 3, 2006, 07:34 PM
Sadly, Richard's Enzo has been wrecked.
Story HERE (http://www.sltrib.com/ci_4129176#)

And HERE (http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local_headlines/story.aspx?content_id=912FE8E8-1A0D-4404-A0F2-5F497C1CBBF9)

News Video HERE (http://www.ksl.com/?sid=398104&nid=148)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f294/TBirdnutt/20060803__ut_b1mast_08031.jpg

Ackk...I was about to post about this too. :p

Counterfit
Aug 3, 2006, 08:10 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! :(
Of course, I just got the new issue of Road & Track, and they published a picture taken of the screen for the onboard recorder of his car. It shows a max of 215MPH, which was achieved somewhere in Nevada (which Richard describes as "the state just west of Utah"). That must have been a hairy road for him to lose it around 100MPH

Killyp
Aug 3, 2006, 08:38 PM
not quite as rare and not quite as fast as an enzo, but still very sad:

http://acrosstheboard.blogspot.com/2006/02/dude-what-happened-to-your-car.html
http://s133702574.onlinehome.us/pictures/blog/FordGTWreck.jpg


That's incredible! How on EARTH did he manage to do that?

I mean, those things are so unreliable, it's amazing he even managed to get that thing out of the garage :P

Lord Blackadder
Aug 3, 2006, 09:28 PM
That's incredible! How on EARTH did he manage to do that?

I mean, those things are so unreliable, it's amazing he even managed to get that thing out of the garage :P

Ha, you've been spending too much time listening to Jeremy Clarkson. ;) :D

kammron
Aug 3, 2006, 09:59 PM
my brother inlaw crashed his ferrari f355 berlinetta hard top...
a year later and 30,000 dollars put in, its back and running.

this is it before the crash.
ive never seen it damaged cause he refused to show me.:rolleyes:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6503/pdr0915mt4.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pdr0915mt4.jpg)

yg17
Aug 4, 2006, 12:00 AM
That's incredible! How on EARTH did he manage to do that?

I mean, those things are so unreliable, it's amazing he even managed to get that thing out of the garage :P


lol :D

WildCowboy
Oct 16, 2006, 06:09 PM
Eriksson rejects a plea deal (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2006/10/16/national/a124313D47.DTL), obviously saying that he didn't steal the car.

topgunn
Mar 27, 2007, 10:17 AM
Another bites the dust care of Eddie Griffen (http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNVrMZX2kms).

pilotError
Mar 27, 2007, 10:49 AM
The guy who owns it is the producer of his new movie.

He said he spent 15 minutes in his trailer (the producer) and thought about how people are dieing every day to get through this.

That was 1.5M down the drain. Only 400 Made, I doubt its replaceable. He said the car is totaled.

iGav
Mar 27, 2007, 12:49 PM
Another bites the dust care of Eddie Griffen (http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNVrMZX2kms).

There's no way on earth that's a write off.

Swarmlord
Mar 27, 2007, 01:45 PM
Those other 398 people that own these cars just had the value of theirs go up after these wrecks.

It's a shame when some cars are so rare and valuable that you can't even afford to drive the darned thing.

pilotError
Mar 27, 2007, 02:46 PM
There's no way on earth that's a write off.

I didn't think so when I saw the video. The barrier did its job, but the car hit the barrier at an angle and left the ground. I don't know what the frame would look like after that.

I actually read it somewhere, but I can't find the link, sorry...

Counterfit
Mar 27, 2007, 05:53 PM
I didn't think so when I saw the video. The barrier did its job, but the car hit the barrier at an angle and left the ground. I don't know what the frame would look like after that.

I actually read it somewhere, but I can't find the link, sorry...

There is no frame, it's a carbon fiber monocoque. In crash testing for the U.S., the McLaren F1 (which also used a CF monocoque) was still drivable, with only the very front end sustaining damage. The front wheel wells were almost completely intact.

yg17
Mar 27, 2007, 06:56 PM
It's a write-off in the sense that even if it was feasible to repair it, it will never, ever drive like an Enzo again, nor, will it be worth the same as an unwrecked Enzo.

emac kinda guy
Mar 28, 2007, 01:05 AM
Well this might be repairable.

Eddie Griffin crashed this Enzo into the wall while he was test driving it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=q3ewLoh9kIA

Bobdude161
Mar 28, 2007, 01:41 AM
Well this might be repairable.

Eddie Griffin crashed this Enzo into the wall while he was test driving it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=q3ewLoh9kIA

LOL. deja vu! I could've sworn that I saw this video before! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Counterfit
Mar 28, 2007, 12:46 PM
Wow, no wonder he hit the wall. He only went in a bit too fast, but there was next nothing for runoff room.

xli_ne
Mar 28, 2007, 04:13 PM
That guy in the black shirt doesn't even move one inch. That Enzo is 5ft. away from killing him and he doesn't move.

Sun Baked
Mar 28, 2007, 04:30 PM
It's a write-off in the sense that even if it was feasible to repair it, it will never, ever drive like an Enzo again, nor, will it be worth the same as an unwrecked Enzo.

Have to remember the Indy/Champ cars are repaired after more intense wrecks. And drive basically the same, with very little degradation in safety.

Basically strip the vehicle and bolt on new parts, but if the tub is damaged ... either it'll get sent off if it isn't too bad, or written off and used for parts.

Looks bad, but might not really be anything wrong with the part of the car that counts when it comes to the repair.

---

These things seem to be dropping like flies, seems a decent repair center can make a decent business of repairing these things. :)

Lord Blackadder
Mar 28, 2007, 09:12 PM
I think it will be repairable. Expensive, but if you have an Enzo in the first place you can afford it.

So when are we going to rename this the "Enzo Death Registry Thread"? ;)