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Wellander
Mar 24, 2006, 04:40 AM
Hi,
I am just wondering if there any rumours about an intel based chip emac in the works?
I work in a school type enviroment where we still can get the emacs but I want to know if it will ever be avaible in the intel form?
Any ideas will be good.
Thanks.



topgunn
Mar 24, 2006, 06:14 AM
I think the eMac is gone forever. It will be missed.

student_trap
Mar 24, 2006, 06:20 AM
id have to say no, you'd have to look at the mini for your intel needs

technicolor
Mar 24, 2006, 06:29 AM
I think the eMac is gone forever. It will be missed.
They still sell them in the education stores.

But yeah I doubt they go intel.

student_trap
Mar 24, 2006, 06:36 AM
They still sell them in the education stores.

really, i can't seem to find them

maybe they're just in the US store?

iMeowbot
Mar 24, 2006, 06:41 AM
They would be more likely roll out a minimalist iMac than refresh the eMac. CRTs are liabilities now that governments are getting serious about lead. They could pop in a lesser Yonah, drop the ATI graphics, and so on to bring the price down.
really, i can't seem to find them

maybe they're just in the US store?
They only offer them to the institutions, not individuals.

howesey
Mar 24, 2006, 08:40 AM
I have always found this weird, but the latest emacs are never shown for sale or advertised.

They are the standard iMac G5, but with no camera, no CD-ROM and slower processors.

I'm guessing they are made to special order.

student_trap
Mar 24, 2006, 08:44 AM
They only offer them to the institutions, not individuals.

thanks for clearing that up:)

Spanky Deluxe
Mar 24, 2006, 09:13 AM
I have always found this weird, but the latest emacs are never shown for sale or advertised.

They are the standard iMac G5, but with no camera, no CD-ROM and slower processors.

I'm guessing they are made to special order.

Those aren't eMacs though, they are the Educational models of the iMac G5 and I think this is they way they're going to go in the future for Edu models. It'll take a while but they'll probably release Intel iMacs without the optical drive or inbuilt isight but with a core duo 1.66Ghz, maybe a smaller hard drive. I reckon they'll keep the ATI graphics though. Why do I say that? Well The isight, optical drive, hard drive and processor are all modular and can be unplugged. The processor is in a socket so no motherboard redesign would be required to put in a lesser chip. Apple could save significantly on production costs by using what they already have available and simply not attatch the more expensive parts.

student_trap
Mar 24, 2006, 09:16 AM
any way you can get these without being a school, could you perhaps buy them through a school?

MovieCutter
Mar 24, 2006, 09:37 AM
The eMac is dead

MacHarne
Mar 24, 2006, 10:11 AM
any way you can get these without being a school, could you perhaps buy them through a school?
Apple is persistent in only allowing educational institutions to order machines like those described above. However, when institutions upgrade hardware, they usually will auction off old stock into the public.

My guess on the Intel "eMac" is that Apple won't announce it, but simply begin to list it to those looking into large-scale educational purchases.

Sdashiki
Mar 24, 2006, 10:27 AM
AFAIK

the eMac was built in logistical response to Apples departure from CRT to LCDs in their iMacs.

When the iMac was first made, I am sure Apple bought TONS AND TONS of CRTs, stored them in warehouses and used them up until the iMac went LCD.

Then, as you would imagine, Apple still had TONS AND TONS of CRTs lying around. And since you cant sell those to anyone anyone, why not make a new el-cheapo CRT using iMac clone?

Hence the eMac.

Its life is/was over when Apple ran out of CRTs to use.

/rant

student_trap
Mar 24, 2006, 10:30 AM
AFAIK
Its life is/was over when Apple ran out of CRTs to use.

RIP emac, i did quite like it, a friend had it, was very cool

topgunn
Mar 24, 2006, 10:38 AM
RIP emac, i did quite like it, a friend had it, was very cool
Your haikus need work.

iMeowbot
Mar 24, 2006, 10:39 AM
Then, as you would imagine, Apple still had TONS AND TONS of CRTs lying around. And since you cant sell those to anyone anyone, why not make a new el-cheapo CRT using iMac clone?
Except that the eMac and G3 iMac don't use the same size CRT...

student_trap
Mar 24, 2006, 10:48 AM
Your haikus need work.

indeed, my japanese has never been that good

miloblithe
Mar 24, 2006, 10:53 AM
AFAIK

the eMac was built in logistical response to Apples departure from CRT to LCDs in their iMacs.

When the iMac was first made, I am sure Apple bought TONS AND TONS of CRTs, stored them in warehouses and used them up until the iMac went LCD.

Then, as you would imagine, Apple still had TONS AND TONS of CRTs lying around. And since you cant sell those to anyone anyone, why not make a new el-cheapo CRT using iMac clone?

Hence the eMac.

Its life is/was over when Apple ran out of CRTs to use.

/rant


Nope. First of all the CRTs in iMacs were 15" and in the eMac 17", so it's not that Apple had tons lying around from the iMac CRT days. Second of all when the LCD iMacs were introduced LCDs were still way to expensive to put into a sub $1000 computer, so Apple added a new computer to sell to function over form customers who would rather get the same computer with a big CRT than a neat looking computer with a small LCD.

Chundles
Mar 24, 2006, 10:56 AM
AFAIK

the eMac was built in logistical response to Apples departure from CRT to LCDs in their iMacs.

When the iMac was first made, I am sure Apple bought TONS AND TONS of CRTs, stored them in warehouses and used them up until the iMac went LCD.

Then, as you would imagine, Apple still had TONS AND TONS of CRTs lying around. And since you cant sell those to anyone anyone, why not make a new el-cheapo CRT using iMac clone?

Hence the eMac.

Its life is/was over when Apple ran out of CRTs to use.

/rant

Except the G3 iMac was 15" and the eMac is 17". And they do still make the eMac, it's just gone back to being educational institution purchase only. My Uni just replaced a bunch of their old, old, oooolllld G3 iMacs with a stack of shiny new eMacs. I tell ya, they're taking over the world, most of the offices have an eMac in them and the higher up guys have G5 iMacs. It's good to see some change.

I hope they keep it there, it's a great educational option, tough, big enough to not have to tie down and simple to upgrade.

miloblithe
Mar 24, 2006, 11:12 AM
I also like the idea that Apple is so bad at managing its supply chain that they still have to try to get rid of supplies they overpurchased more than 4 years ago.

Sdashiki
Mar 24, 2006, 12:00 PM
I also like the idea that Apple is so bad at managing its supply chain that they still have to try to get rid of supplies they overpurchased more than 4 years ago.


/slinks away in disgrace

Lord Blackadder
Mar 24, 2006, 12:26 PM
The eMac was Apple's low-cost consumer computer, anchoring the bottom-end of the Mac line. With the appearance of the Mini, it became redundant. There really isn't a point to keep selling it or updating it. Still, they were arguably a better value than the Mini due to their AIO configuration, 3.5" hard drives and (in the last iteration) much better video hardware.

RIP eMac, the last CRT compy by Apple.

miloblithe
Mar 24, 2006, 12:34 PM
I do hope that Apple takes the advice of a lot of people here and introduces an e-iMac: a 17" or even 15" LCD iMac with integrated graphics, no iSight, etc. as Spanky suggested. For the current market, a core solo 15" version could be sold for $799 and maybe even a 1.66 core duo 17" for $999.

Lord Blackadder
Mar 24, 2006, 12:41 PM
I doubt it, but if they did it would just be a stripped down 17" iMac for under $1000. That would be far to close top the Mac Mini line though - you're more likely to see a "super Mini" (something like a much smaller, stripped-down PowerMac) than a cheaper iMac-like all-in-one.

mox358
Mar 24, 2006, 12:42 PM
I do hope that Apple takes the advice of a lot of people here and introduces an e-iMac: a 17" or even 15" LCD iMac with integrated graphics, no iSight, etc. as Spanky suggested. For the current market, a core solo 15" version could be sold for $799 and maybe even a 1.66 core duo 17" for $999.

What about the Mac Mini? Seems like the "e-iMac" would conflict too much with the mini's target audience. I can't imagine the e-iMac being a successful product. That's why the edu iMac will most likely stay edu-only.

dwd3885
Mar 24, 2006, 01:03 PM
emacs are pretty much done. I go to a university and work for the information access derpartment as well. anyway, we are moving to the new intel imacs in may to replace our old imac g4s. no need for any emac. I do know that our student newspaper uses the emac g4 to produce their paper

Wellander
Mar 24, 2006, 11:36 PM
Hi,
Thanks for all of the replies.
I think that we will have to go with the imacs then.
Thanks again.

Eidorian
Mar 24, 2006, 11:41 PM
In my department the eMacs would be great. We're going with Dell LCD's and Mac Mini's right now. The eMac is much more cost effective for personal machines and it comes with a mouse/keyboard.

We're waiting for an Intel version badly. That or a stripped down Intel iMac.

Chupa Chupa
Mar 26, 2006, 05:41 AM
AFAIK

the eMac was built in logistical response to Apples departure from CRT to LCDs in their iMacs.

When the iMac was first made, I am sure Apple bought TONS AND TONS of CRTs, stored them in warehouses and used them up until the iMac went LCD.

/rant


Nope. Dell revolutionized the computer company with it's "order on need" management. All computer companies have follwed this for years and don't buy any parts until they are needed. The eMac was not born out of stockpiles of CRTs. Apple doesn't warehouse anything but assembled comptuers, and then only a 6 weeks supply.

The eMac was a stratigic response to schools who wanted a low cost, low maintence machine. Apple was starting to lose it's edge in the Edu market because it didn't have a low cost machine. The eMac was suppose to help save Apple's marketshare in this niche. Apple initially restricted sales to the Edu market but then opened it up to retail because of demand and to help lower Apple's cost.

BlizzardBomb
Mar 26, 2006, 05:59 AM
There definitely is a market for the cheap all-in-one. I think Apple should make a budget iMac like people have already said here. Shove a 1.66Ghz Core Solo (or Duo) in, GMA950 graphics and a 15" LCD with a 1280 x 800 resolution and there's one budget iMac. Surely there'll be no need for any case redesigns (except to take the 15" LCD), and the Mini will be fine because it's for people who already have the display, keyboard and mouse.

Atlasland
Mar 26, 2006, 06:15 AM
There definitely is a market for the cheap all-in-one. I think Apple should make a budget iMac like people have already said here. Shove a 1.66Ghz Core Solo (or Duo) in, GMA950 graphics and a 15" LCD with a 1280 x 800 resolution and there's one budget iMac. Surely there'll be no need for any case redesigns (except to take the 15" LCD), and the Mini will be fine because it's for people who already have the display, keyboard and mouse.

Good idea.

planetgunnar
Mar 26, 2006, 07:07 AM
I is it possible to have a 2nd display on the imac intel?
I am going to buy one next weekend and it will mostly be for video editing and motion graphics.
Having a 2nd display would be quite comfortable.

iMeowbot
Mar 26, 2006, 07:16 AM
I is it possible to have a 2nd display on the imac intel?
Yes, you only need an adapter cable. Even better, it allows screen spanning out of the box, no firmware goofiness required.

Caitlyn
Mar 26, 2006, 09:57 AM
I would have to agree with everyone here. The eMac was too much competition for the Mac Mini. So now they have a low-end desktop, a high-end desktop and a sort of middle of the road desktop. I can't see the eMac coming back anytime soon, if ever.

Lord Blackadder
Mar 26, 2006, 03:46 PM
I can't say specifically, but plasma and LCD screens have been around since the 60's, at least on a very small scale. LCD laptops first became relatively affordable in the 1980s, and I think the technology matured for the consumer market around that time, though some few portable computers with flat panels existed in the 1970s. Military applications with LCDs or plasma screens showed up in the 70's, and the medical industry was also an early adopter.

GilGrissom
Apr 17, 2006, 10:27 AM
I would have to agree with everyone here. The eMac was too much competition for the Mac Mini. So now they have a low-end desktop, a high-end desktop and a sort of middle of the road desktop. I can't see the eMac coming back anytime soon, if ever.
That's a point you cannot deny. But if so I believe Apple are really making a mistake. They should have priced the Mac mini even cheaper than what it is and keep the emac at it's current price to make it different. They could only allow eMac purchases by educational institutions (although they will be missing on a market, but if they want to push Mac minis and iMacs then thats a sacrifice and compromise to keep the eMac).

I would be prepared to keep a CRT and size/design in return to get an Intel eMac, just keep it simple Apple, throw an Intel Core Solo in there and be done with...nothing more...won't cost you that much!

Subiklim
Apr 17, 2006, 12:47 PM
Staying on the subject CRT/LCD; when were the first laptops made (with flat screens), and were these the first flat screens in the world? anynone knows?:eek:

Actually, they weren't LCD. The first laptop was the system that was taken on the first shuttle flight, and it had a Plasma screen and weighed upwards of 20lbs.

maxeythecat
Apr 18, 2006, 02:39 AM
I would have to agree with everyone here. The eMac was too much competition for the Mac Mini. So now they have a low-end desktop, a high-end desktop and a sort of middle of the road desktop. I can't see the eMac coming back anytime soon, if ever.


Of COURSE it was too much competition.........it's a better deal any way you look at it but unfortunately not the potential cash cow that the Mini can turn out to be.How can anyone in their right mind call the Mini "low priced" when after buying a keyboard, mouse and monitor you might as well get yourself an Imac instead 'cos that's how much your're gonna end up shelling out! I said it once, I said it a thousand times, Apple's greedy underbelly started to show when they decided to take the eMac out of the hands of the public. It's a great computer and one helluva bargain, decidedly more bang for the buck that a Mini can ever hope to be. The day they offer us a Mini already tricked out with a keyboard and monitor and sell it for the same price as an eMac is the day they have the "low end" market sewed up and prove to us loyal but somewhat impoverished Mac'rz that they really do give a toss ......until then, forget it.